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I believe it is some after market mod, but why fool with making a 5.7L out of a 5.4L or whatever engine? If you are going to do that, may as well go for some big cubes, excuse me Liters, old habits are hard to break.
Its just my opinion, but the old motors seemed more able to work like you needed them to. Granted, the only experience with the new motors I've had was towing a buddy of mine's drag car with his 97 f150. It had the 4.6l motor. It didn't have any trouble pulling the trailer, but it just didn't seem as "gutsy" as his old truck. (1995 f150, 5.0l, automatic.)
The drag car: 1987 Buick Grand National, 10" slicks, Stage III alum. v-6, Garrett turbo! This thing is just evil!! And best of all, its completely street legal, licensed, and driven probably 3 times a week. (to get groceries, you know!)
keith24
Thank you,
AFS
And before I start I want to say I do not think the salesmen and dealership involved are responsible for events that took place.
On 5/28/99 I placed my order for my 2000 F-150 regular cab Flareside 4x4, 4.6 v8,sport package pickup. I was told that I could expect the vehicle in or around the beginning of sept. which was great cause thats when the lease on my 96 bronco was over, that would be perfect timing. But as sept drew closer I found out about a hold ford put on the sport package I ordered. so then I extended my lease on my bronco for one more month but on the first of October I returned the bronco cause I was told the F-150 would be in at the end of October. my registration was due on the bronco along with the monthly payment. so I decided I might as well rent a car for the month while I wait for my new truck. the cost when I figured it out was about the same. so from hertz I rented a contour se. (you see I even rented a ford in good faith!)now the fun starts I the found out the ship date of my truck was pushed back until the end of November so I was stuck with the contour for bit longer. then around the end of November I found out it was pushed to the week of December 6. Ok fine I waited patiently but now I wanted to see about maybe ford helping me out with splitting the cost of the rental car. no can do was the response. ok fine so then I found out that my truck was shipped on November 29 and it would be here around the 14 of December. but still no sign. I then found out that the truck was shipped from Ontario the 29th then sat in holding when It came into America for awhile and then finally on the 10th was plopped on a truck and going to California with an ache in my heart. so now I finally know its on the way I still would like some help paying for the rental car. now I did not realize this but ford owns hertz. I am buying a ford, I had a ford, and I am renting a ford from a ford owned company and still they are being reluctant to help me out just little. what is that all about? is this how ford really thinks of all the people who buy ford products I think I might not deal with ford anymore after this deal is made. I just don't feel ford cares for its clients when I comes down to a personal level and thats not the type of company I like to deal with. if anyone has a comment, suggestion,similar experience or information I would like to hear from you.
disappointed in ford,
ericr
because you ended your lease and rented a car. I never let mine go until the new one is ready for me to pick up. I turn it in and drive off in the new one. Sorry, I don't want to start a war or hard feelings, just my opinion, and I know there are others out ther that will be the other way. Wish you luck, and know you will love the truck.
Bob
i thought i would break even and not have to worry about anything happening to the bronco while i waited to return it. i didnt even think about asking ford for a litle help until the end of november came around. but i did make the call and bob you are right about that. i guess thats why i dont go to vegas a lot i am not a good gambler. oh well my birthday is the 21st of dec maybe it will show up on tuesday for that. that would actually be kind of cool.by the way bob where did you get your ford from was it california too?
Bought mine from Courtesy Ford in Denver. Hopefully you will get a nice birthday present (Your Truck!!). I'm not a good gambler either, and have somewhat adopted a "don't believe it until I see it" philosophy on such matters. I have had vehicles come in 6-8weeks early, and as in my last deal took 4 months. Good Luck, and Happy Birthday.
"modvptnl",
In Colorado plates are pricey too, but the good news is when you get a new vehicle you can transferr the plates and they credit you for the unused time on the new regisrtation.
I bought a Ford F-150 4X4 Ext Cab Eddie Baurer in 1995 (traded 1993 Buick great car, no problems, ) We needed a truck and my wife worked for a Ford dealer, bought for "A Plan". Traded 1993 GMC Jimmy
(nice vehicle, no problems)for 1996 Ford Windstar (lease)my wife had since moved to a different Ford dealer so was at "A Plan" again. Traded 1995 Ford
F-150 (no problems great truck) for 1997 F-150 4X4
Ext Cab Lariat, lese and "A Plan" again. Lease up on Windstar ( had a minor problem with power steering pump, replaced no problems after). Leased 1998 Eddie Bauer Expedtion, "A Plan again" I liked the 97 F-150 so much I never drove an EXPY before mine was delivered to me, still have it, about 17,000 miles,only problem I've had is rear wiper motor died, replaced no problems since, great SUV. Just replaced 97 F-150(no problems other than the famuos lug bolts, loved that truck, lease up) with a Y2K F-150 Ext Cab Sport 4X4. My wife no longer works for a dealer, she is now in real estate, so will try and explain why I bought the Y2K F-150. Obviously the reason I bought/leased the 1995-1998 was price, and the fact I had good luck with them, liked them, and was treated well by service departments of which there were three, was a good part of the rationale. The reason
I leased the Y2K, was really loved the 97, and had had good reliability and performance from the other Fords I had. Even though I could no longer get the "A Plan", when I went to my salesman in the Fleet department at the last place she worked, (and where we got everyone except the 95) to order my Y2K I said "What kind of price am I looking at?" He said. "Invoice, plus I'll throw in mud flaps etc." So it has been a combination of price that I couldn't beat anywhere, or no haggle at Invoice and good reliability and treatment. Believe me if I had had problems with them, I would have looked at other brands even though I couldn't get an "A Plan deal" I know this is long, but tried to answer your question. Have 2000 miles on the new one and no problems, much better and smoother than the 97, of course more power and torque also (both 5.4Ls).
Bob
White, Black, Silver and Bright Red, and you can not get two tone paint. It took four months to get mine, ordered on 25 June, delivered to dealer on 27 Oct, after Regional Manager got involved. I don't know how the availability is now. The hold up at that time was the fabric for the seats, it has a different design than the others. Also the only available interior color is Dark Graphite. Barring the delay etc. I like it, and feel it was worth the money, to me anyway. Good Luck.
Bob
Any of you go with the XL 4WD SC?
I was thinking of getting the sport option on the XL with 16 inch 255 or do a aftermarket swap. What do you think? I know i would need some way to set the speedometer up switching from 16-17 wheels in an aftermarket swap..
thanks in advance for your input
Smokey
ABS at no charge. The standard brakes on the XL are Front Disc and Rear Drum. I personally would never go below the XLT ( I have one now), but that's me. Good Luck
Adios,
Smokey
Y2K F-150, Super Cab, Sport 4X4 Package, Bright Red/Dark Graphite Interior, 5.4L, Auto, 3:55 LS, ESOF, Autolamps, Captain's Chairs&Console, 6way Power Seat, In Dash CD, Sliding Rear Window, Skid Plates, Towing Package, Air, 4 Wheel Disc ABS, Snapless Tonneau Cover, Color keyed Floor Mats, "Top 3 Accesories Package" available only in Denver and a couple of other places consists of bed liner, bug shield, and body colored cab steps. As you can see it is loaded. I paid Invoice plus $665 destination charges, if I remember right the total was about $27,700. Dealer threw in the molded mud flaps. Great truck, 4,000 miles and no problems. You said you plan to keep yours for a long time, in that case I would really recommend the XLT over the XL, if that is doable for you. The 17 inch wheels make a lot of difference in looks and I have been told by a couple of people for some reason they ride and handle better than the 16 inch. I don't know that for a fact. I had 17 inch on my 97 F-150 Lariat and have them on my 98 Expedition EB. If you are planning on going to the Northwest in a year or two definitely get the 4X4. I lived in Washington fo 16 years, 6 in Spokane and 10 in the Seattle area, great country. Understand the uncertainty about the job and not wanting to rush and do something that you may regret. Good Luck with the job, if I can give you anymore info etc just ask.
Take care,
Bob
I ended up at Invoice, so I think I did OK.
Bob
Well the 5.4 on the XLT is $1,550 and you're still charged for ABS and then it is backed out. But wait a minute you're charged $1,550 on the XL and ABS is included in that price, so you're paying $395 for ABS and $1,105 for the engine. So yes if you buy a V-6 F-150 XLT ABS is free, do the math. If you want an 8 foot bed, that's what I got good luck finding an XLT one, 8foot XLs are out there. Mine stickered for $21,375 with destination and includes auto, 5.4 trailer towing, air, $ disc ABS, cassette, and payload group 3. Good Luck getting the increased payload on an XLT, leather yes, CD changer yes, increased utility, yeah right. Yes resale is lower, but when you figure in the V-8/ABS trick and higher insurance and higher payments and time value of money, I'm a CPA, the difference will probably net out. So I guess it depends on if you're buying a truck to use as a truck or as a car, if you're using it as a car go ahead and buy the new F-150 4 door Supercrew model.
Thanks...only 300 miles but already love this truck!
ABUCS in Austin
Any way the truck drives real nice, it is real big, man I never drove anything that stands this tall! The last 4x4 I drove was a 1984, F150.
Thanks again for the feedback and tips.
regards,
smokey
I did the same thing when I traded my 97 Cougar. CarMax loved it, but they could only give me the same amount as Jennings Anderson. They were being nice to me, so they got the trade.
sticker did not include the " heavy duty cooling
and electrical" package. I noticed that the 5.4l
engine has two little radiators at the bottom of
the big one. Are these oil and trans coolers?
Does the cooling and electrical package give
anything else that doesn't already come with the
5.4l? I hope this is the case since I plan to tow a
trailer.
In the first accident the spare key got destroyed. Come to find out that you have to have 2 origonal key to make a copy because of the computer chip security thing. This ment that I had to get the entire truck reprogrammed and a full set of new keys. The dealer didn't know how to properly reprogram the truck and so I waited 6 hours in the waiting room. I would have gone home but they kept telling me it would be just a few more minutes. If you get a ford get three computer chip keys and put 2 key in a safe place. Also get a dummy key. You can keep it anywhere and it will open your door but not start the ignition. Make ford include this when you buy one. Key are about $80 a piece.
Another thing, subtract about 4-5 miles off the already bad mileage they tell you. This monster eats gas fast.
Be ware of blind spots. An entire Semi can hide behind your left shoulder, and at the wrong time of day your side mirror won't help you. A horse can lay down on the ground behind you and unless you walk around the truck, your won't know why your not moving backwards.
Responsiveness: The breaks stop the wheels not necessarily you or the truck. Afterwhich you have nice flat spots on your tires. Also the front of the truck may come to a stop before the bed of the truck creating the wonderfull effect of your own truck denting itself. Quite a novelty act.... The suspension and steering combine to give you the feeling of almost loosing it when dodging small obsticals. Unfortunatly the line between almost and actually loosing it is supprisingly thin.
Other little things
The bed cover leaks when it rains
The windshield wipers leave streaks
The CD player skips
The paint chips easily
The plastic part of the bumper totally cracks up when hit (the 89 Dodge Spirit fared better)
Buying the F 150 was the biggest mistake in my life and it could have been the last mistake of my life if it hadn't been for pure luck. Everyone that saw the accident said I should have been dead.
But have you considered that you're alive (and complaining) today because you were driving that truck and not the Dodge Spirit! Think about that next time you complain because the plastic cracked in the accident.
Why do you think so many of us buy trucks. It sure ain't for the handling thru a slalom!
Streaking wipers. I've noticed this too. I have a 99 now and used to have a 97 and they both did it. I even changed the wipers in the 97 to better, more expensive ones and it didn't help. What I found to solve this... When the wipers are needed, turn them on at full speed. Leave them on till they squeak on your window. As long as its not raining hard, it shouldn't take long. After they get "warmed up," they work a lot better.
Leaking Bed Cover. Is this the Ford Tonneau cover? If this is what you mean, make sure it is on right, or it may be defective. I've been through some serious rain with mine and not a drop inside. Not even from the carwash, where I shoot water right at it from the side. If you want to, climb inside the bed under the cover while its raining or while someone hoses it down from the outside and find out where the leak is.
Gas mileage. Luck of the draw here. I have gotten as low as 14 mpg city during the winter with extensive idling, sand in the back and low speed, high rev driving. Best was 20 on the interstate. 5.4L, 4wd, 3.73 gears, 17" inch tires. Not bad at all for a truck this size.
Handling. I have noticed you need to pay attention to your driving. This thing quickly drifts a few feet on the interstate if you aren't paying attention. Especially if you are hit the expansion joint wrong while coming onto a raised bridge while going seventy. You do get used to it, though, and after a while your driving will compensate.
No CD skipping, paint chipping or lost keys, so I can't help with those. Check your doors for cracks, though. With all trucks, its really the luck of the draw. Just sounds like yours has been a disappointment. Sorry to hear that. Hopefully your problems will cease and you can enjoy the truck better.