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I thought I'd go for a stripped model, but I'm 90% sure its gonna be an automatic on my next car (god help me). I'm thinking 128 w/ auto, sport, and power seat. That adds over $3k to the base price.
I suppose, if I really wanted, I could go for a 135 and leave off the sport pack, but I would really like paddle shifters. Its pretty lousy that you have to pay over $1k just to get paddle shifters.
by the way, to avoid extras, like you, I would opt for red over black.
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The 128 with the sport package get the upgraded brakes as well.
tony
"besides the extra HP that the 135 got over the 335"
The 135 and 335 should have the same HP.
"the sport package also give you better brakes, then the 335 gets in thier sport package."
I can't find a reference for a brake upgrade with the 135i or 335i sport package.
"The 128 with the sport package get the upgraded brakes as well."
Couldn't find this either.
Not trying to quiz you, I'm just wondering where you got this info since I've never heard any of this before.
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2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
-mike
The 135i has 13.3" front and 12.8" rear (or 11.8" rear, not sure why they list two sizes, SP/non-SP maybe), while the 335i has 13.7" front and 13.2" rear brakes. Given that the 135i's brakes are smaller than the non-M 3-Series, I'm thinking that the M3's brakes are going to be significantly more impressive than anything on the 135i, six-pot calipers or no.
Best Regards,
Shipo
-mike
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Could be Paison's source was thinking of the latest (Feb 2008) Road&Track 135i article...
"Of note are the brakes: massive 6-piston front calipers sit inside the 18-in wheels; even the rears have 2-piston calipers. This is unusual, as BMW has long used floating calipers; even the new M3 retains what many consider inferior brake components."
The E92 M3 has floating calipers?!?! I find that hard to believe.
Looking back at my own history, I personally am having a difficult time imagining BlueGuyDotCom driving a minivan with an automatic transmission, seven seats and 225/65 series tires. ;-)
Best Regards,
Shipo
He's not a dealer, he's at bmw corp.
-mike
but why should that deter you? I have a kid, and this car is at the top of my list right now. He can certainly fit in the back seat, I'm sure. I mean, at least until he is a teenager, I would think. So that gives me 10 years.
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Regards,
Jose
You and she have a kid on the way?
As for looks, those are subjective. Even if I didn't prefer the convertible for open air motoring I'd buy it just cuz it looks better than the stumpy coupe. Like the 2002, few will buy the 1-series coupe for looks.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
As for looks, I agree with you. Looks are subjective. But I liked the Coupe look in person as much as I had disliked it from magazine pictures.
Regards,
Jose
Also, while I'm thinking about maintenance, has anyone heard any info about the aux oil cooler & dipstick status for the 135i? I'm assuming the worst but I haven't heard one way or the other.
Regardless, the 1 fits my idea visually of a good looking-smallish coupe. There's style to it while the car still looks usable (no ultra-low seating and it has an upright cabin) and I like the bluntness of the hood and trunk. It's almost pugnacious. In 4 door form it'd have that nice squished appearance I liked in the e30.
Big is not a word I would ever use for the trunk of a 5-Series.
I have never personally seen a Oner hatch but the coupe's trunk is smaller than on any hatchback I've seen.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
It's usually easier:
Pad Removal- drive out a couple of pad retainer pins, remove anti-rattle spring, pull pads.
Pad Installation- retract pistons, insert pads, reinstall anti-rattle spring and retainer pins.
Rotor Removal- Unbolt caliper from mounting arm.
My M6(front) and Bavaria had that set-up; pad changes at the track are a 15 minute job per axle...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
It's usually easier:
Pad Removal- drive out a couple of pad retainer pins, remove anti-rattle spring, pull pads.
Pad Installation- retract pistons, insert pads, reinstall anti-rattle spring and retainer pins.
Rotor Removal- Unbolt caliper from mounting arm.
My M6(front) and Bavaria had that set-up; pad changes at the track are a 15 minute job per axle...
Yup it's easier than floating calipers IMO. We have changed pads on our race car with 4-pot fixed calipers during a pit-stop, took about 4-5 min total.
-mike
Can you do this and push back all the pistons on one side in the same manner?
-mike
Thanks for the replies and the education guys. I'm glad the brakes are one thing I don't have to complain about on the new BMW's.
On the Fixed pistons, the channel locks work cause you are only compressing one side and each side is lower profile than a floating one.
There may be more fluid overall but really the pistons are just smaller than say 1 large one. Heck F1 uses (or used at one time) single piston calipers.
-mike
Thanks for the info.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Best Regards,
Shipo
Strange.
Regards,
Jose
No big deal, really.
I have a 325i sedan and my wife has a Mazda3 5-door. The Mazda is a smaller car overall, but a lot more practical if I have to haul something back from the store (such as a TV or other bulky item). I can fold the seats on my 325i down and manage to load my bicycle in there, but again it's a lot easier to do the same in the hatchback.
If they were bringing the 1-series hatch over here, we might have waited for it instead of buying the Mazda.
Right so: I couldn't agree more with you. I was just speaking about "trunk space" whithout folding down the seats.
Regards,
Jose
I also really dig the 1 series "tii" concept. If that doesn't make it to production, I hope they offer some of the bits as accessories. The black wheels, the black honeycomb grill, & the rear diffuser would be a nice add on to the Alpine White 128i & 135i that I've been building over and over again on BMWs website.
The longer I wait, the higher probability I'll convince myself to go with the Turbos!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
What is a man to do? My lease runs out in December. HELP!
Regards,
OW
Good for us since the 1-series is what the 3-series should have been all along. The 1-series is almost right, but now I'm more certain than ever that I will wait for a lightweight version (Tii?) to come.
BTW, there's a picture of my E30 in the new Roundel. Page 103... :shades:
BTW, how does the OPG work?
It's amazing that the oil fouled that plug in such a short period of time.
Your picture is good but I just do not understand why they cut your head off!
Regards,
OW
He just happened to pose for that picture in front of my car at TechFest last year, that's all...
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and red + two or three of silver and blue. The metallic green shown will not be offered in the US AFAIK.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93