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Cadillac SRX

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  • adp3adp3 Member Posts: 446
    http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_- id=6980&page_number=1
  • eaton53eaton53 Member Posts: 356
    How Cadillac styling has now become a plus.

    Remember how much crap was spewed about it on the CTS reviews? Getting a giant plate of crow shoved down the 'ol gob has a way of changing the mind.

    Also note that they call the SRX pricey. Well, they've built a superior vehicle... do they expect Cadillac to give it away?
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    well Cadillac is used to selling its cars for 10 grand off list so it should be no big deal........
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    Not any of the new models they don't. Dream on, even the Seville and Deville don't get anything close to that.
  • eaton53eaton53 Member Posts: 356
    Reg,
    I'll employ your services.... get me that deal and I'll give you $1K!!
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Ignore.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    the CTS doesn't have 10k off but every year at the end of the year those 58k Sevilles are at least 10 grand off. The Eldos were going for about 12k off in their last years. Devilles are commonly 7-10k off list no problem.

    Sclades, maybe not. But only pimps and pro athletes buy sclades.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    I can't wait to get a 38K V6 SRX for 28K.
    I am going to start holding my breath right now.
    Anybody care to join me?
  • logic1logic1 Member Posts: 2,433
    suburbs and tell the wealthy, white slade boat pulling denziens that they are pimps or pro-athletes. The local cops will be eminently civil while they escort you to the town limits.
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    Clearly.
  • eaton53eaton53 Member Posts: 356
    Are there a lot of pimps and pro athletes, or what???

    Even in Eastern Iowa!!
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    I saw a mom drop her kid off at Soccer the other day in one but I know she was driving her "man's" Escalade.
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    Reg's a bit of a neanderthal, but we love him anyway... I'm just grateful he left me out of the equation. I guess Navigators aren't good enough for pimp-daddy's anymore.
  • joey2brixjoey2brix Member Posts: 463
    With the high demand the first year, every rich guy wants to be the first on the block to get one,
    you won't see any discounts. But I'm starting to see a trend of very high MSRP sticker prices that are very deeply discounted when the cars don't move. (Kia's for example.) I think everybody expects cash back deals now and the car makers just inflate the stickers to cover themselves.
  • sevenfeet0sevenfeet0 Member Posts: 486
    Hey, I like the 'Slade and I'm not a pimp or a pro athelete. Oh wait, I do look like a pro athelete....

    Nevermind.
  • eaton53eaton53 Member Posts: 356
    Is well into its 2nd year of production.... sales still climbing and no deep discounts yet.

    And the Slade is still hot in its 3rd year.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    What do you guys think of the VW Toureg?
    V6 is 35K, V8 is 41K.
    Interior is very detailed looking.
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    If you're into self-abuse, the Toureg should make you very happy - when it's not in the shop.
  • carguy1234carguy1234 Member Posts: 233
    Just think of all the great conversations you will have with all the kids about their Golf's and Jetta's as you are all waiting for service.
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    Exactly! Everybody I know, LOVES their Jetta - when they actually have possession of it, which is rarely.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    I have always stayed away from them.
    Lots of expensive maintenance.
    In '99 I bought a Intrigue instead of a Passat. The Intrigue was a nightmare.
    But I understand that if a VW needs a replacement engine they give you a rebuilt.
    GM will usually give you a new crate motor.
  • eaton53eaton53 Member Posts: 356
    Takes money out of powertrain and other mechanical/electrical components and puts it into interiors.

    Looks nice, but...

    I'll take the more reliable and better performing SRX. It's interior is still luxurious and a much more unique style.
  • regfootballregfootball Member Posts: 2,166
    Hey, I actually love the SRX, I think its the bomb. Would probably take one over a TWAREG.

    Why anyone would buy a Sclade, is beyond me though.

    You might as well go purchase a big fat pig instead. Same difference. LOL....kidding. My distaste for large heinous SUV's.......

    You can drive an SRX and its not so much for the need to make up for a perceived lack in physical assets, like you do if you drive a Sclade, or H2.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    I've seen at least a dozen SRXs on the road in the last few weeks. Most of them have some logo on the rear to the left that I can't quite make out. It's a shapely SUV, definitely sizable but for some reason it looks petite. Probably because when you first see that design, you think "Escalade" then the SRX passes you by and you're susprised at how much smaller than the Escalade is. In reality, the SRX is pretty darn big.

    It's nice, looks like the Caddy version of a Mercedes ML, which I suppose is the point.
  • odmanodman Member Posts: 309
    I believe the logo you are seeing denotes Northstar-equipped models. It has a stylized star shape on the left, and the name Northstar beside it. It's nice, small, and indicates V8 power.
  • arennarenn Member Posts: 35
    Just saw the auto sales numbers today. GM is officially reporting 6 SRX's.
  • sphinx99sphinx99 Member Posts: 776
    I've seen way more than six of them, with plates and all, on the road. At least one was being driven by an apparent soccer mom, too.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    SpeedTV Friday night at 8:30 PM!
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    962 SRXs produced so far.
  • adp3adp3 Member Posts: 446
    it's pretty incredible that we ahve access to that data about how many SRXs have been produced - is the internet great, or what?

    not sure what we do with the data, but it's still cool

    the electrical problem in my Dodge Grand Caravan seems to have fixed itself (I unplugged the cigarette-lighter-mounted ozonator, and the fuse has stopped blowing - I'm holding my breath, thourh - figuratively AND literally, as the car has that 130,000 mile stench) - hoping the minivan lasts reasonably maintenance free until winter so I can buy when the market is a bit cooler for the SRX
  • crikeycrikey Member Posts: 1,041
    Caught the test drive on the tube and I think the SRX is pretty competent for what Cadillac designed it for. They had two of them on the race track and from the looks of it, the pair of SRXs seemed right at home on the track. It looks pretty roomy inside too. The third row seats seems to be electronically stowed/propped up -- I hope they have a manual override for that one. That moonroof is quite amazing. I think Cadillac did a good job on this vehicle and I hope it becomes a success. Now, if only Cadillac can lower the price a bit -- that's wishful thinking, maybe.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    The front end of the car is beautiful. Looks very expensive.
    The show was decent. I was expecting a little more enthusiasm.
  • automoleautomole Member Posts: 154
    Maybe it's just me but I've always found the enthusiasim on "Test Drive" lacking when it comes to American cars. Anyway, I've got TiVo set to record and am looking forward to the show this weekend.
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    Cadillac doesn't need to lower prices because they have good vehicles now. Back a few years ago they didn't have much, but the CTS and SRX are state of the art vehicles and GM can charge accordingly with little in the way of incentives.
  • drivenowdrivenow Member Posts: 45
    Has anyone in the METRO NY area seen the SRX at any dealers? My local dealer in CT called me down a few weeks ago as the "SRX rep" from Detroit was making the rounds with a Cashmere V8 SRX AWD without the 3rd seat but with the SkyView sunroof. The rep was very UNhelpful to me, I had a zillion questions for him, but he was concentrating on giving the Caddy salesmen a pep talk on the SRX features. This vehicle had alot of miles on it, as the SRX rep was going on a multi-dealer tour around the country. I arrived quite excited, really wanting to love the vehicle...but, after looking (my request to drive was declined) at the SRX for a while, my impression was that this did not FEEL like a $58,000 automobile!! Directly opposite the Cadillac Dealership is a Porsche Dealer, and a $58,000 Cayenne S just felt a whole lot more substantial...too bad it's just too small for my needs. I told my Cadillac dealer, who has my $1,000 deposit towards a fully loaded SRX, that I'd give it another look when he has one...I'm still hopeful that somehow my wallet will warm up to this highly praised new entry into the SUV community.
  • b4zb4z Member Posts: 3,372
    Did you read the editiorial on the Cayenne in the new "Automobile"?
    The guy was so unimpressed with the car that he is questioning Porsche's reason for building it.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    That rep was making the rounds solely to train the salesmen. He came to our place also. Remember this was an early production car so the fit and finish weren't 100%.
  • regasregas Member Posts: 1
    Just had a quick first test drive of an SRX. No performance package with the Magnetic suspension control, no sunroof. It did have the third row seat, back seat DVD and XM radio. Curious collection of options which the dealer was forced to accept as first car to get. But then this is midwest Kansas, not bigcity east coast.
    I liked the appearance, size and the twin exhausts. Seating excellent, similar to the CTS we own, but firmer. Definitely riding higher off the ground than CTS. Rearview look is ok but some obstruction from rear corner pillars. Rear window seems curved at upper corners.
    Third seat is a joke - good for a very short trip to the corner for small children. No footroom. I can't imagine even crawling into it. It does go and up down very nicely but slowly with power controls.
    The ride and handling seemed a lot like my CTS. Acceleration better than the V6 in the CTS but then this is a V8. Automatic has a Tiptronic-like side to it instead the sport button the CTS.
    Some nice improved interior touches from the CTS - each front door has a built in holder for sunglasses, There was nothing like this on the CTS. The cup holder in the center console has a liftout liner for easier cleaning. Roof has vents for A/C for second seat and there are vents for the third seat.
    I have driven Jeeps Cherokee's, V6 and V8, X5's V6 and V8 and this SRX beats them all easily for me in handling, comfort and general performance.
    Can't wait to try one with the options I want, namely the sunroof and the performance package with magnetic controlled suspension.
    Will I buy one? Yes if the price is right for me.
    Bob
  • automoleautomole Member Posts: 154
    You must have a different style CTS than mine. I have a holder in the door AND a removeable cup holder...???

    I'd buy a SRX if the price was right for me...unfortunately I can't afford one right now.
    The one real 'shocker' for me was the SRX's sticker price.
    -Maybe in a few years.
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    I've seen ads around town for the SRX but I still have not seen one at the local Caddy dealer. Anyone seen one in the Toronto area?
  • baron87baron87 Member Posts: 93
    to bring you the latest news out of Detroit on SRX.

    Other night I was at the Cadillac dealer and spent about two hours there driving the SRX, walking it over, and talking to our friend at the dealer. They had two "Art & Science" silver V8 SRXs in stock, and a black V8 one that they were in the process of completely disassembling and reassembling (18 times!) as part of an intensive "Lexus modeled" training program for their technicians.

    At any rate, the news from GM in Detroit is that SRX is to be a "volume product" and that "GM is positioning Cadillac for a possible market take-over in the next 12-24 months". My dealer received an initial alotment of 17 V8 SRXs last week, and this week got confirmed by GM for 64 more V8s by January 1, 2004. As insructed (or hinted) by GM, they are selling SRXs immediately at $1000-1500 above invoice in order to move product "that's being shoved down their throats." It's all about moving the product.

    My immediate reaction was that this is a complete turn-around for GM, which has maintained all around that Cadillacs are to be high-visibility low-volume vehicles, and that they're not chasing the #1 sales leader in the US spot. Big news, very big news. Apparently, there's been a little more to the story LaNeve and Lutz have been giving us. I'd say it's intentional deception as a part of someone's business model they're running. Cadillac is going for the gold.

    GM's most conservative estimate is to sell "30,000 units in the 'calendar year'" Insiders contend, however, that they are expecting to sell more like 60,000 SRXs. This will be Cadillac's volume product, as GM positions it to overtake Lexus in sales and quality rankings in the next 12-24 months.

    As for the actual vehicle, it's every bit as good as a BMW X5 in terms of performance, every bit as good as a Volvo XC90 for interior functionality, and every bit as good as a Toyota for fit and finish. In short, the best American-made vehicle is for sale right now, almost at invoice. The excitement is building...

    Judging by the crowd and the Lexi, Jaguars, Land Rovers, and other imports in the parking lot at the dealer tonight...I'd say it's definitely safe to say that Cadillac is back, and in a big way. Over $3,000,000 in SRXs to be sold by January 1 at Ettleson. Can they do it? Absolutely...
  • sevenfeet0sevenfeet0 Member Posts: 486
    Glad to see you back...

    Your news about projected SRX sales and that it is to be a volume car is not all that surprising. Lexus introduced an interesting car-based SUV and turned it into their best selling product year after year (even though it costs more than an ES300/ES330). Cadillac badly wants that business and thinks that this product can do for it what the RX300 did for Lexus.

    Considering that the CTS continues to sell well (its sales are continuing to increase), Cadillac would probably like a lot of people in SRXs by the time the new STS debuts. At that point, Cadillac's comeback will be assured.
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Member Posts: 619
    It's going to take aggressive pricing to get buyers to go for the SRX over the RX330, imo. Some will go for the SRX because they like the styling better, like I do. What is really amazing is that it took five years for Detroit to react to the tremendous success of the RX300.
  • adp3adp3 Member Posts: 446
    who is baron87, and why am I listening to a high school kid opine on the motives/objectives of one of the largest companies in the world?

    does baron have inside info?

    I'm not saying I disagree with any of it, but....
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    RX330 is a good vehicle but boy does it have some awful styling. Style and Lexus are 2 words that generally just don't go together in my mind.

    CTS and SRX will both be volume leaders, that's why they are the first out. Cadillac has to try and move back up to #1 and that's the only way to do it!
  • adp3adp3 Member Posts: 446
    obviously lots of people diasagree with you on the Lexus - then again, so many people buy Lexus because they KNOW they will have no problems. Between them being problem-free and the fact that perhaps 90% of drivers don't really care about "performance" it's no wonder that Lexus is a top brand. I know people who claim to love how their Lexus looks. I don't have a problem with any of them, though I think the new SUVs are ugly and I always disliked the bid sedan, but I'm not in the demographic that Lexus is shooting for on the big sedan.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    ... why am I listening to a high school kid opine...

    You're better off sticking to issues and refraining from discussing individuals posting on these boards. If you don't like what you read then use that marvelous invention that came with your computer - that little scroll wheel on your mouse.

    tidester, host
  • rerenov8rrerenov8r Member Posts: 380
    I don't condone "ad hominem" attacks either, but the 'buzz' has been that Cadillac was going to try to control supply & maintain hipgh asking prices/margins on the SRX -- so the post in question flies in the face of that line of thinking.

    If there was some way to "see all posts" by a member perhaps we could better evaluate the liklihood of the getting an SRX at invoice; for myself the buzz I picked up here led to purchase another vehicle that truly does command much closer to MSRP...
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    ...so the post in question flies in the face of that line of thinking.

    I understand that but it is not particularly informative to focus on the messenger. Rather than that, one should address the information or viewpoint if one believes them to be incorrect. That would be much more useful to readers than characterizations of an individual.

    I'm sure you will agree.

    tidester, host
  • clpurnellclpurnell Member Posts: 1,083
    Lexus has had some horrible product introductions. The latest is the new ES it has had almost as many tranny's pulled as the TL. Go back to the early messages on the GS300/400 board after the redesign in '98 (yeah I was on the board then) tons of owners complaining about bad seals, sunroofs and strange noises. NO ONE BUILDS A PERFECT CAR. That is a fact like all software has bugs all cars do to. To me it is all in how the company and dealers stand behind they're product. I can take a couple of issues if they are handled correctly and fixed right the first time. Lexus from my understanding does do an outstanding job at that.
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