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Do you own a 3.8 or are you considering purchasing one? If you are considering purchasing one, but you want to add a CAI, why not start with the more powerful engine to begin with (3.5)?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
From the seat of the pants, I can't tell any diff in the punch of the 3.8 vs. the 3.5. The 3.8 gets better MPG ratings and in the minivans it gets up to 26 MPG. The 3.5 is not a powerhouse and its MPG does not appear to be so hot.
I prefer the base model. For 2007 it will have the 3.8 also.
Its just that I am not a fan of CAIs, so I'm trying to understand why you feel you would like one.
by the way, the 3.5 only loses 1 to 2 mpg to the 3.8. Not really that bad of a tradeoff for 50hp and 15ft-lbs increase. Just my opinion. AND, sometimes a slight drop in mileage is reported with CAIs, so you very well may reduce your mileage to match that of a 3.5 while not gaining anywhere near 50hp/15ft-lbs in return.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The CAI is not a feel thing, it's a think thing. I think it would help the 3.8, I think overall the 3.8 suits my purposes better, and I know I like the base model better than the upscale jobs.
From what I've read, there is a big difference in EPA and real world MPG with the 3.5. It seems the 3.5 generally does quite a bit worse than EPA figures, rarely better or equal.
CAI can increase HP 5-10+, similarly with torque. Despite the HP numbers, there is not a huge difference in acceleration figures. There are numbers and there is the real world.
Similar acceleration, real world MPG possibly as much as 5 or 6 higher, there is little to argue about here IMO.
I'm not telling you to get the 3.5, I'm trying to show you fault in your logic. If the 3.5 is not worth your cash, why is a CAI?
if you get nothing out of it, its a waste of money. Its that simple. Best case scenario, the CAI simply takes money out of your pocket and you get nothing in return. Worst case scenario, you are not filtering the air as well as you should and you shorten the life of your engine.
So, yeah, there is little to argue ... a CAI is worthless.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I had my '06 daytime running lights activated today but the mechanic said he did not see any 'Fleet Daytime Running Light' option. He changed my Pac's country code to Canada and that activated the lights.
There is just one weird thing though. When I put my blinker on the daytime running light on that side goes off for the time blinker is on. Is that the way the daytime running lights should work?
Kind of weird behavior but as it is just daytime running light going off with the blinker it does not really matter. I just wonder if this behavior is correct?
--Arrie--
Yes, your DRL is working correctly as it is by design that the light on the side of the blinker goes out with the directional on ~ this way, the turn signal is more pronounced. Actually I thought this was a pretty neat idea!
My Pac is a '06 model but it was put on road in January this year so I'm sure it really is a '05 model so there is no 'Fleet Daytime Running Light Option'. It is still called a country code. Or does yours have both the country code and Fleet light option?
Thanks again!
--Arrie--
But then again, who cares ~ as long as it works, right?
They also make a deflector for the sunroof. My Elantra has one stock and it makes a World of difference in the noise level.
Also, how did you get the cables under the carpet to the headrest?
#82207511 Rear Seat Video (DVD) DVD Rear Seat Video™ overhead entertainment includes 7 headliner-mounted LCD TFT screen, in-dash six-disc CD/DVD player with AUX inputs, remote control and two wireless headphones.
This comes w/ instructions, template, and harness. Everything you need. If you want the same thing for the 2005+ version it will cost you $1395.
If you are like me you already had the newer 6 disc cd/dvd changer. You will have to remove it. It is OK, just wait.
After you install the "old" new changer, screen, etc you will be left with 2 harnesses (the one that hooks to the radio and changer which you already had for the old one) and the 2006 changer. This changer is $595 new from Mopar alone. The changer itself is selling for $200 - $250 on Ebay.
So after you buy the 2004 verison and sell the new one you will have a investment of about $350 and a couple hours of your time. That sure beats $825 or $1395 and a couple hours of your time.
Now for the difference I have found between the 2003 and 2005 changers. #1 of course in the RF instead of IR headphones which are MUCH MUCH better. They are built better, sound better, work in any seat, etc. #2 you lose the MP3 functionality of the 2005 changer. The 2003 one doesn't read them, or at least mine doesn't. To me this is a small price to pay as I can still play cds, and could even convert any MP3's I had to cda and play them from a CD-r.
Anyway I thought I let everyone know. If you purchase a cheap ($125) flip down aftermarket monitor (that has Built in IR), the remote and headphones ($60 - ebay), and make or buy the harness ($20 to $100 for harness) you are in at least $205 to $285.
I will say that the 7" display is fine. At first I wanted something larger, but it is just right. Especially given the rear view mirror / window situation.
Shaun
http://www.mopar.com/m_acc_cat.jsp?color=PX8&dummy5=1164161486443
82207511 Rear Seat Video (DVD) DVD Rear Seat Video™ overhead entertainment includes 7 headliner-mounted LCD TFT screen, in-dash six-disc CD/DVD player with AUX inputs, remote control and two wireless headphones. $535.00
Click the box, view list, contact dealer. Enter a zip code and it will ckeck their inventory. there was only 1 near my zip about 40 miles away.
The changer is dated 2003, but it comes up under the 2006 model pacifica on the mopar's site.
Shaun
Part # Description Qty Unit
Price (1) Total
NEIL HUFFMAN DODGE
4136 SHELBYVILLE ROAD
LOUISVILLE, KY 40207-3223
502-893-5757
PREMIER CHRYSLER JEEP
6936-6955 WEST GRAND AVENUE
CHICAGO, IL 60707
773-745-4600
ARLINGTON CHRYSLER JEEP IN
925 W DUNDEE RD
BUFFALO GROVE, IL 60089-4101
847-398-3800
O'BRIEN LIMITED OF PEORIA INC
3905 N UNIVERSITY
PEORIA, IL 61614-6996
309-685-4061
82207511 MEDIA SYS 1 $535.00 $535.00
Maybe it was limited to the 4 closest to me. I don't know.
I do know that it is a big box. Inside you will find 3 more boxes and the harnesses. Their is 1 box for the headphones& remote. It is narrow and long. The other two contain the radio and then the screen. I'd say it was in the 20lb range. Maybe 30.
Another question though, will this work with pacificas with sunroof/moonroof? that's what I have and am wondering if this would still work?
Also, is this removal of the 05 dvd and installation of the 04 setup going to fly okay with a dealership install...I guess you wouldn't know, but just thought I'd ask.
Last question, how does one contact other posters like psdoc. I've just ordered some 06 HID headlights and know that I will need the PDM for the 04 or the 06...I would imagine the pdm for the 06, but just checking. This was from post # 509.
My dealer had no clue that this was from the 2004, and i bet they wouldn't care. It is factory, it comes up under 2006 on Mopar's site. Nothing I found said you couldn't use it. If you have a dealer install it, I wouldn't say anything. I would just give them the Mopar number or order it off Mopar, through a dealer. I doubt they care.
If you want to install it yourself I can write up some detailed instructions. It is fairly easy, and I had never down anything like this before. The hardest part of the installation is running the harness through the headliner.
You cut the hole and take off the right visor/grab handle only. I had to stick my arm up to my elbow through the hole over to where i ran the harness by the grab handle.
I have a few scrapes on my arm from the steel but nothing major.
As far as contacting other's I don't know. I have only been on here a couple days. I found out what I did about the dvd system and thought i'd post it. It looks like most of the users on here hide their emails. Unlike most forums I don't find a private message function either.
Yes, I would love a detailed installation. I'm curious as to how the unit is affixed to the roof. E-mail me at protocol_droid@hotmail.com john's my name. How was taking out the stock DVD unit? Thanks.
My Pac does not have any DVD add-on, and subsequently I have this empty space underneath my radio, and just above the electric outlets, in the center console.
Right now it is a place where I keep small stuff (that constantly falls out if I accelerate too fast), and I'm hoping that I can use that space to hold the controlbox.
I'm not really car savvy, but can I just 'click out' the mold that is currently giving me this hollow space, and then hook in the control box? If I take out the plastic mold, how far back does it go, and will I be able to guide wires into the engine block area of my car?
I hope my description makes sense to you. I could really use some good advise. Will a dealer install this controlbox??
Thanks
Thanks.
I don't think that factory auto rear hatch will be feasibly doable as an afterthought. Between the wiring, sensors, and motor, its a rather complex add-on. If you aren't interested in the factory setup and JUST want to pop it and not raise it automatically, there are lots of aftermarket solutions. Tuners put "poppers" on their doors all the time. I guess, by that token, you could have it raise up, too, if you put different hydraulics on it, too.
I have no idea on the climate controls. I think its going to depend on the wiring, as well. If all the wires are there and its just a matter of replacing controls, then that shouldn't be a problem. However, if the inside temp sensors and whatnot are not already wired in every Pacifica, then it would also be a daunting and expensive task to do it aftermarket.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
LP :confuse:
I endedup taking the 2006 cd/dvd changer out and ebaying it for $200 and bought and installed the mopar #82207511 kit which was $525. Included the cd/dvd changer (2004 model) and screen, remote, headphones, etc.
Your either going to have to create a harness or call some salvage yards.
In my case, I want to use portable monitors that came with a portable DVD/VCR unit(I use the monitors in my other vehicles & camper). I am hoping that I can simply use the left/right audio & video outputs from the DVD and solder RCA jacks. Then I could run cables between the jacks & the monitor.
Is this possible with the wireless headphone design in the Chrysler setup? I realize that I could probably use the wirelss headphones and just run video out, but I'm curious if this configuration (audio + video out to RCA jacks) will work.
Thanx
Just out of curiosity, do you need the factory monitor to use the headphones? I tried running a CD in the DVD changer to see if my daughter could listen to her music with the wireless headphone while I listen to the radio on the car's speakers. I used the remote to tell the radio control to send the DVD player audio output to the headphones, but the sound never switched from the car speakers to the headphones (the headphone symbol was on, new batteries in headphone, new headphone).
I bought the headphones last week from a local Chrysler dealersip's parts department (part number was 5064037AA). I understand from reading various forums that there may be 2 different headphone types for this year. Do you know if this is true? If only one type of headphone, is this part number the correct headphone or how can I find out?
I know many of us have been scared to cut into the headliner. This template should help.
Good luck...
search for pacifica monitor template on ebay.
Carp.
the car also has the nav, bluetooth & 6 cd/dvd changer.
the radio custs out when either the nav or bluetooth cust in, which is normal operation.
The RAH radio DOES NOT HAVE FADE CONTROLS
Can someone tell me if the #82207511 kit will work with this radio. ie will the rear speakers turn off when the dvd is playing through the headphones.
thanks
wayne
i recently purchased a 06 Pacifica and i want to install a screen. it came with the dvd player. what do you suggest for a screen?
my e-mail address is mpollard@sterpc.org.
Thanks,
Rick
rmyers15@hotmail.com