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Hope your sister gets a satisfactory resolution. No problems here with our 2005 Terraza yet (under 5000 miles so far though).
Since the dealership has acknowledged that this is a safety issue, did they provide you with a loaner car?
As a result of starting the arbitration process, a GM area manager came today to test drive the van. Without me or anyone in the car with him, he was unable to hear the noise in the windshield. He thinks the noise that I am hearing is from the nail in my rear right tire!!
This along with many other problems with my van...I believe we are beginning an uphill battle with GM.
Where do you get the service bulletins?
Maintenance Schedules, Recalls and Technical Service Bulletins
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Sorry you've had so many problems. You might want to visit the NHTSA to see if others have had similar problems and, if you wish, file a complaint:
NHTSA: Office of Defects Investigation
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I got my Uplander in March '05 and have had little trouble.
The worst problem has been the bodyside moulding that has started loosening. I took it to the dealer, he ordered the part and it came in next day. I called him to find out what method he was using to reinstal the moulding after reading here that several have had it installed over 5 times.
The dealer said he was sent a redesigned moulding that has a screw/stud that locks down the moulding at both ends.
I also complained about vibration during moderate braking.
The dealer recut the rotors.
I have noticed a slight dimming while driving.
The dealer replaced the alternator.
When I got the Uplander, I noticed that the Chevy Bowtie Logo at the rear was installed crooked.
The dealer reordered and remounted a new one.
And, My horn was always very dificult to use.
The dealer said that be found a service bulletin and repaired the horn so that it operates easier.
The best part of all was that the Dealer got me a rental
('06 Tahoe) and I absolutely loved it.
I was pleasantly surprised at how professional my dealer was. I would gladly buy there again.
Jesse
These are just a few of my problems...
1. Flickering lights(headlights and inside lights)
2. Whistling noise when accelerating
3. Doors open on their own(power sliding doors)
4. Doors open when in drive (major safety hazard)
5. Side moulding popping off
6. Faulty fuel gage (says low fuel even though there is a half a tank in it)
7. Radio only works part of the time
AND ON AND ON AND ON......
GM is currently in the process of buying my van back from me but only after my constant complaining and threats. The lemon law/buy back process is almost as frustrating as taking ur van into the shop every other day. Do NOT let GM or your dealership push you around, put your foot down and tell them that you do NOT feel safe with your children in the car anymore and do NOT want to drive it again. That is what I had to do. If your dealer does not do anything for you, then call GM direct. Just be firm.
GOOD LUCK...
I recently read on a Saturn forum that the Saturn Relay came in second place in a Strategic Vision intial quality survey for 2005. None of the other GM models were tested, but I'd assume quality would be pretty consistent. My conclusion on these vans is that there were a few vans built with an electrical ghost that is haunting mechanics. The remaining 99% are good with the exception of a few minor issues. For the money, I'm still very satisfied. If I had your issues, I'm sure it would be a different story.
This is the place. There are more than 2000 posts in this discussion and a number of them concern problems and issues with these vehicles. The hope is that the discussion doesn't become a soapbox filled with one-way rants, because they don't really help anyone. Ideally, it's about members who've had similar experiences helping other members to solve their problems.
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But did they tell you that the rotor problem can happen again...especially when the vehicle sits for a long period of time or is subjected to high humidity areas (like the beach). My dealership was nice enough to offer to replace my rotors right before my warranty runs out....hope to not still have the van at that point.
Our 2005 Uplander LT van is almost a year old and we have had almost no issues. We have 22,000 kms on her now, it's been one of the best vehicles we have ever had. We are mostly retired now but the van is great for carrying large items and going on long trips.
Question : Anyone have a 3.9L version of the van? Just wondering how the extra power feels.
i'm takeing it back for the 4th time its really getting old at this point anybody with a similar problem??? :mad:
Good Luck!!
I had my alternator replaced when I bought it, just for precaution against flickering lights, but I still notice an occasional slight flicker of the interior lights. This is not a safety issue and it is usually unnoticed, but it is there. I'd like to hear from someone who says that their vehicle was completely repaired after following the TSB for flickering lights.
I'd also like to hear from 2006 owners. Are you having any issues such as the whistling noise, flickering lights, or body side mouldings coming loose?
These are all annoying, first year issues, but I am encouraged that I've read very few issues regarding the reliabilily of the engine or transmission.
Well I'm headed to the Philly Auto Show on Sat Feb 4th. Hoping to get a good look at alot of vehicles. I asked about the availability of the 3.9ltr. Most of the vans on the lots are AWD and the 3.9ltr is only avail with the FWD model's sport package. I also noticed that mostly all the issues everyone is talking about are on the '05MY, has anyone had any issues on the '06MY since that is what I would end up ordering and GM more than likely got most of the bugs out. I say ordering because I want the convenience package, sport package, and trailering package, but do NOT want the preferred, premium or security packages. Almost every SV6 in the area has the preferred or security packages.
My wife and I are still looking at the '06 SV6 (3.9ltr), '06 Quest SL special edition, '06 Freestyle SEL, and the '06 Pilot EX (W/O Leather). The SV6 won out over the other GM model because the front end looks alot better IMHO.
Odie
The only brake issue I've heard of relates to a Stabilitrac malfuntion, not the normal operation of the braking system. For the majority that don't have stabilitrac, this shouldn't be a concern. I did read one instance on this site regarding the doors opening by themselves, but I hadn't heard about the airbag deployment before. Wiring...that could be causing all of it. But, why do most vans not seem to have the really bad stuff, just the slight pulsation in the headlights like I experience?
How hard was it to get GM to buy back your car. I love the looks of this van, my daughter loves the interior, we bought the one with all options, but has the cloth insert, leather trim. She disliked the Chrysler Town & Country LXi I drove six years (yes, trouble free) because it had leather seats which are cold in the winter. I would be content if Chevy would give me another car and "pray" it had none of the previous problems. Did you hire an attorney or what?
it's amazing people wander why gm is going bankrupt. customer service is terrible.
its either user error or it's supposed to do that its never their problem when will gm wake up
5 Alternators, 2 DVD players 3 radios 4 sets of mouldings, Brakes warped at 3000kms, Ran out of fuel twice with 1/4 tank, seats cushions were deformed, Horn Button,engine whistle(never fixed)headlights spidered and cracked, fuel gauge that read whatever it wanted, 6 disc cd changer that shuffled discs without any reason....etc etc. No lawyers, got the Canadian Vehicle Abitration process rolling but wasn`t required......stick with, you`ll win....... :lemon: :lemon:
The ABS and TC lights came on when the TC kicked in. It would also display the service errors in the DIC. Turn the key off and then back on and the errors go away. According to the owners manual, this is not detrimental to the system operation and should be fixed at the owner's convenience.
Well, not a week and a half later after the first time we saw this, I went to make a semi fast stop and quick turn. Enough for the ABS to kick in a bit. The ABS failed, the brakes locked up all 4 wheels at about 35 MPH, and all 4200 lbs + passengers and cargo slid up and over an 8" curb. It completely destroyed the whole front suspension and frame.
All my kids and my wife were in the car. The cop put on the report that the ABS and TC errors were displayed.
GM is claiming it's not their problem. My insurance company is fighting them and so are we. It's finally out of the body shop after $6500+ in repairs, and it's at a dealer while they figure out what's wrong with the ABS system. They took it out the other day, and they got it to start spitting out tons of ABS errors, so they're seeing the issue. Now they're arguing that it's because of the accident that this is happening.
In the mean time, I still have to have them fix the flickering lights (again), 1/4 tank no gas issue, the surging idle problem, the radio that they never fixed (they ordered us a new one, we went to go in and they called us that day and said they couldn't do it), amongst other issues that I can't remember because we haven't had it for well over a month.
Plus, I don't want to put my family back in this death trap. Who knows what kind of other funny stuff this thing will pull while driving.
Hammy: myself, my wife, and you may need to talk some more. We don't want anything to do with this van any more. We don't even want another GM product. We have more than ample amounts of evidence that proves the ABS failure caused the accident and they're just blowing us off.