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I've not seen any Enterprise stickers on LeSabres. What rental uses them?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
By the way Mr. Lutz says a lot of flamboyant things. He says what he thinks and maybe that is not normal for an auto exec but it is what he believes. Maybe he would be better off keeping things to his chest untill fruition but it sure makes the press and public talk a lot more about GM!
In the meantime I would use pricing/size/features and style to pick competitors. That is what customers do. I would compare a CX/CXL to Camry XLE's with 4 and V6 and the CXS to lower level ES330's. Using actual transaction prices the LaCrosse does very well, if you care about price!
Buicks challenge is to do what Olds did not do. Keep their traditional older market and bring in younger folks.
johnclineii : Avalon is not a Lexus though and the cars are in different price ranges. I don't see how saying Buick was a budget Lexus invites comparison to a Toyota in another price class?
16 inch Michelin on a Limited Celebration or touring suspension?
Or 15 inch on General supersoft, easy rolling tires for gas mileage and relatively long tire life?
The two drive completely different.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I wish the 3.6L was the base for the Lucerne though. The car would seem more premium.
Was talking to owner of a Buick dealership of llooooonnnnnggg standing. The 3800 is far more dependable and powerful than many non GM drivers perceive. I'v often responded here about its great torque rating compared to even the 3.6 and other motors that people post up here as the favorite style of their choice. That strength in torque is where most people notice the quickness of their motor--in everyday driving at 2000-3500 rpm leaving stopsigns and stop lights.
He wanted me to drive a LaCrosse since I'd wandered into the showroom to sit in the back of one. I found it slightly smaller than my LeSabres. Again it's a midsize car. I'll have to go sit in some other midsize cars like the Avalon and Camry and see how their back seat compares... The finish in the LaCrosse seemed great, other than I missed the carpet on the lower part of the rear doors. It just didn't look as detailed as my LeSabre Limiteds. I'll check for that in the Accord and Camry and Avalon when I brave the nasty sales staff next week one midday.
I suspect his opinion mirrors the current GM management. I would expect to see the 3800 continue as a strong motor for a base level car. And I would expect the optional motors to attract the newer/younger buyers into Buicks.
I do agree that optional motors in the base car would be a great way to go for others who want a choice, even if it's not much more if any cost effective as an option.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The controls are well thought out and the seats comfortable. Cruise set at 80 gave 25.5 mpg.
A UPS driver at a gas station asked "Does it drive as good as it looks?"
So Buick keeps the 3.8 to keep their traditional buyers happy and cost down but everyone else piles on it. It does not help though not to have at least a 5 speed even though with a torquey engine it is not as important as with the revvy 3.6L.
Yes, I think you will see the 3.8 go away as the new models are introduced down the line.
johnclineii : True, 3800 torque is great.
Once an engine is delveloped in a architecture it takes a lot of time and money to put in another one. Therefore I doubt they will drop out the 3.8 and replace it with something else on the LaCrosse or Grand Prix. They will probably wait untill the replacement models come out.
First time I saw this.
no doubt the 3.8's strength is it's low end power, but the 3.6 beats the 3.8 at its own game. the 3.6 provides more power at ALL speeds. ditto for the 3.5s from honda, toyota and nissan.
but the 3800 is durable and provides good gas mileage.
i don't believe you'll find carpeting on the lower part of the doors on the cars you mentioned. i think it's a styling fad that has passed.
Heck, my Ford Five Hundred has not so much as a reflector, much less a light, on the interior of the doors. This used to be the hallmark of big cars. At least the 300 has a red reflector!
I made reservations for a large car at Avis for next month and am hoping to get a LaCrosse but fear I'll be spending two weeks behind the wheel of an Impala.
My buddy rented a full size and got a PT Cruiser. What a joke.
AY1) Air bags, side head curtain are now standard on all models
(AK5) Air bags, frontal now require a fleet or government type order
(PEB) Silver Convenience Package, is now (PDD) Comfort and Convenience Package
(PEC) Gold Convenience Package is now (PCI) Driver Confidence Package
(JL9) Brakes, 4-wheel antilock, 4-wheel disc and Traction control, Enhanced Traction System are Standard on CX and CXL
There should also be 2 new exterior colors.
Stabilitrak I bet will be standard on the '07 or '08 CXS. The rollout for GM will take a few years and there seems to be quite a bit of complaints on the MSRP of the CXS already. Another $400 or so willonly make it worse.
The 3.8L cars will need to be developed and will take a few years?
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=9639&page_number=1
I like the 300 but over all I would go with the LaCrosse because 300 styling will be getting old in a few years. 500 tranny is questionable (as are all CVTs) and it has no engine option. Avalon should be a Camry for this comparo and it's as dull as you can get in a sedan.
lets don't forget edmunds' comparison test that included the lacrosse. they must love everthing foreign too!
like the lacrosse, it's not readily clear what the maxima's competition is.