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I see the V8, special rear folding seat.
We were delighted with the car but so far somehow that spoiled the show, this is my second Buick (old Regal 91' never had that problem) and we loved the ride but this pissed me off royally after a few short getaways in Toronto area. It should be smooth and QUIET on the highway like all Buicks!
Did anybody have similar experience? Please advise.
Alignment been set to middle of range?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I work as pump designer and I know about noise and vibration a lot. To me it must be tire disbalance/runout, driveshaft concentricity issue, bearing tolerances or according to some Range Rover internet forums power steering system/pump failure on highway speeds it does not perform well or it does not work properly.
The tires were "as is" from day one. I don't like those GY Integrity tires anyway.
Lighter unsprung weights due to alloy parts, aluminum wheels. stiffer 60 series tires with wide tires cause problems for some drivers.
Try a set of wheels from another new LaCrosse which when test driven does not show the vibration. This requires putting both cars up on lifts for a time and switching out the wheels, driving yours, and then switching wheels back.
That will eliminate the wheels.
In an Accord discussion, some lead problems have been causes by engine cradle being slightly out of place. When they reset the whole front engine cradle, the odd lead is gone.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Annoying problem but still minor inconvenience, to set aside my wife's grunt about buying Japanese instead GM. I thought with Buick I would have peace of mind.
Seems like there is not much difference in features between the two.
Sorry!
Overall, I am very happy with the Allure and would buy another one.
The only disappointment is that I paid C$950. for chrome alloy wheels and ended up with standard alloy wheels that have a chrome plastic overlay.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
The 3.6L in the CTS has 255 lb/ft. I do not know why they detuned it so much.
Keep in mind the A/C in the summer kills mileage.
Besides that tire noise I described earlier one really great car!!!
...just my 0.02$
Hard to believe that they're not company cars.
Saw a bunch of Pacificas in Detroit when they came out last year. But when I returned to Chicago, only saw them parked in the dealer lots. Its still rare to see a Pacifica, I think Toyota sells more Prius' than Chrysler sells Pacificas.
I highly doubt the cars purchaed in Detroit reflect the buying patterns of the rest of the country.
"Hard to believe that they're not company cars" means but in this area they're not company cars. I am seeing a lot of them and the rate is about the same as Regals and LeSabres used to be. The buyer demographics seems broad as well. Can't stereotype it as an older, wiser, carbuyer's vehicle.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
In Detroit everyone and their uncle knows someone who work for the big 3, and as such benefit from employee discounts from those manufacturers. So wouldn't this market be slanted to those makers?
Its like driving through Auburn Hills (DaimlerChrysler) headquarters and not be surprised that every other car is going to be a brand new Pacifica, Durango or 300.
I'm sure Stuttgart has its share of Mercedes and Bimmers driving around but I don't think that would be reflective of what the rest of Europe is driving.
Yes 17" would look better but the ride would suffer and the CX/CXS need to have a great ride. And I do not mean the Buick ride of the past. The cars with 16" have a ride comparable to the Camry but slightly firmer than the Lexus.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/by model/2005_Buick_Lacrosseallure.shtml
I am not that old :shades:, maybe just "an old school" ("only" 37 but with wife is the most conservative driver/passenger as "supervisor"). That's why we picked CX, enough power and great value after all incentives. Here in Toronto I got mine for <$25K US "on the road". Anyway in Metro area you can't spread your wings too much, traffic is mostly average to slow...I could step on old Regal and have zoom effect more than new Allure but now the new baby goes with Pink Floyd CDs nice and SMOOTH! We loved the style too, meanies compare it with Taurus but I would say older E Class MBenz. Especially in black/gray color!
Check your LaCrosse manual to see what the torque is for the wheels. My LeSabre is 100 lb-ft.
Dragging calipers also can exacerabate the uneveness in the rotors.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Perhaps a turbo DOHC 3.6L, perhaps a supercharged DOHC 3.6L, perhaps the tried and true supercharged 3.8L, or even the same V8 that is in the Pontiac/Impala?
I would assume that HP would be around the V8's 300hp. Or maybe there is no need for a higher performance version of the LaCrosse, after all the Lexus ES and Camry have less HP. (218 vs. 240) And the Accord only has 244. Of course the TL has 270 so maybe that will be enough? Or perhaps potential Buick buyers do not care about performance and there is no need for that reason.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ratings_description.shtml
Look at the link below how the cars were tested, reading your comment I noticed that your driving style is more aggressive vs test conditions and your mpg will be lower. I tried my CX with growling RPM with a lot acceleration 50-75 mph and got lower mpg as well. Driving in accordance with their standards I got even lower mpg for highway!
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml
Speaking of power and torque I also noticed that imports (i.e. Accord V6 or Camry 4 cyl.) were pretty lazy and underpowered. My friend has Accord V6 and I must admit that those 240 HP were well hidden, not to mention poor 4 cyl. with Camry. I read that Buick was aiming for Lexus ES 330 and we have a plenty of those in my neighborhood and they looked to me slow and bouncy as old Buicks. Not to mention extremely boring style... Sorry to read about your buyer's regret but I work in similar industry and I am familiar how Marketing and Sales can make the things look promising but there is a long paragraph on the bottom in fine print to say the opposite. I am happy with my purchase, got what I was looking for. Maybe Audi 1.8 T would meet your spec or BMW series 5 but I don't thing that will be better on mpg, sporty driving style does not go with fuel economy. Or maybe new Lucerne with V8? I would not buy Japanese because everybody has it, just 200 ft down my street I see 4 Infinity G35s. What's the point? I came from ex communist country and I get rash when I see one car model for everybody in only two colors! :P
This is a buick, and in CXS i think its fast enough. They could have put in say the CTS tuned V6 as the CXS model and the lower tuned as the CXL and lest the 3.8 as the Base. But hey didn't and they will loose some sales.
Still, this is a buick, and it does have more hp than the 330 as far as i know. So they sort of got what they were aiming for. GM needs to get there costs dows so they can give us what we want.
This car was designed to have a comfortable quiet and smooth ride, with better handling but sporty. I think they did just fine. They should probably add that wood-ish trim to the steering wheel though, but thats just me.
Is the car selling well for august?
And don't call me a GM hater..."electron blue" is for my Corvette, which I love.
They went for a smooth integrated IP. Maybe it was a mistake but at the time it was designed but, and as far as I know now, Nav is a very low penetrating option due to its high cost in $20 something vehicles. In fact it is almost 0 penetration.
Yes the Civic has it available but at $2000? it does not sell any.
I use a portable Garmin C330. Works as well as a factory unit, can be used with any rental car, much cheaper to get software updates, and costs 1/4th as much.
When I was looking for my Allure CX the only thing I had as "must have" was 40/60 rear folding seat, I got driver info center, remote starter and column shift extra because very tight inventory in August (780$cnd extra). I like the features but does this make the car running? I need dependable quality car, more gadgets makes it less reliable regardless the make or model.
Isn't that folding seat nice? My old car just had a small pass through, but the 60/40 is great! I think I like the remote start, but in the summer when you get in on a hot day it is nice at first, but the wait to get the AC going again after you insert the key is not so great. It may be better in the winter, we'll see. All that idling is doing nothing for gas mileage. Technically the gadgets increase the odds of trouble, but I'm amazed at the reliability compared to what it was 20 years ago.
If GM put OnStar on all vehicles and reduce the price to 10$/mth it may work but I still have 8 months to think about it. For now it is too pricey for me. Now I am absolutely crazy about black onyx color, we thought it would need to own car wash service to pay it off but appearance was great. I drove along with some M Benz E320 and older Lexus E330 and I saw the resemblance! GM copycats??? Hmmm...
The Lacrosse CXS is the spiritual successor to the Intrigue. So armed with my discounts, I decided to see if GM can duplicate my satisfaction level. The purchase experience was excellent once the price was established. Though only 1,000 miles so far, it has been perfect, and the features & handling etc are great. I hope that the Lacrosse proves my decision was the correct one.