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I valued it as used on a few web sites and bought a new car at a used price with all of the warranty remaining, color is Light Cashmere as close as you can get to Goldfiremist of the 98 Deville. It also has a sun/moonroof and in dash CD changer. The two cars are really nice and look that way parked next to each other in the garage. Of course getting them out on the road is even nicer. My Towncar has 22,300 miles as of today, had it out for some fun and and errands, Average fuel economy was 25.5 MPG, about 60% highway and 40% city. The new DTS got average of 23 MPG on a similar trip a few days ago. I have owned both a Plymouth Acclaim and a 1997 LHS in the past so I have a little knowledge of the Chrysler line of autos.
The car is getting about 10% lower fuel efficiency than my 2004 Deville. My dealership offers no really reasonable explanations for this difference. This is my third Cadillac
and one of the other weak points is Cadillac customer service line. My ignition stalled out on several occasions
and when the issue was not immediately resolved they didn't offer much help except to say well keep trying (LOL). I expect the issue will be resolved only after the vehicle has to be jump started and or towed to the dealership. I think the main difference between American and foreign car names is initial build quality and customer service follow up. I have been on balance satisfied with my three Cadillacs,
if I were in your place I would check in to the types of issues I have raised in my response. I have never owned a foreign car but your post comes at a time when I am less than thrilled with my new purchase. Please feel free to ask questions if you need further follow up information in reaching your decision. The Edmunds web site has a great amount of information on all the cars mentioned, I would strongly urge you to read through it as well as other car web sites. Best wishes and keep us posted.
said it should be up around 700 or more in a new car, my 98 Deville charged at a rate of 670 when checked when three years old. Am taking that 130 mile drive to the dealership tomorrow, have alerted Cadillac and just about every management person at the dealership. One of the supervisors advised me that there are TSBS on this model year on this issue, they should have checked this two complaints ago.
SO FAR am sorry I spent the money to trade to a newer model, in that other than a glitch in the cruise control and an oil filter adapter gasket the car ran great without any other problems.
I am curious as to what the "400" or "700" means in terms of "charging". Without some unit those are just numbers. Were they testing the battery's "charge", or were they testing the generator's charging capacity?
I have gone back to look at your previous posts. I am not sure what you mean when you say "Have had stall outs at ignition a few times". It is possible that your dealer's service manager does not understand what your problem is either.
Had electrical problems which for the most part have been corrected with new battery and some computer re sets. I have one remaining quirk that occurs about once every few weeks.
At start up the radio does not go on and the audio in my turn signals does not sound when making a turn. Is corrected by by pushing the radio on off button on/off a few times. Never had this type of quirk on my two previous Cadillacs and wondered if this should be ignored or if it is a prelude to more serious recurring electrical problems.
The dealership is over 130 miles round trip so unless it is serious will ignore and jiggle the radio on/off control to clear. Have other owners had this problem? What was the cause and how was it corrected?
Mine goes out about once every two weeks and then seems to work until a few weeks later? Talked to the service dept today and they said they were uncertain as to cause. I will follow for a few weeks unless it happens again sooner. This will be the third visit regarding electrical problems if not resolved I am encouraged by the consumer protection agency of my state to start a lemon law process. In my state you have 30 months
to file for lemon law protection. Using the lemon law would be my LAST preference since I like the car and hope it will be resolved before that. I had an alternator replaced in my
98 Deville and the car worked fine after that, had an oil filter adapter gasket replaced in my 2004 Deville and the car was fine after that. have owned the 2006 DTS less than two months and this would be the the third service visit if it goes that route.
Thanks very much for your post every bit of information provides food for thought and action in resolving these issues.
I have a 2004 base Deville for a few months now. Have about 27,500 miles on it.
Would like to hear your experiences with the 2004 Deville?
Had many issues?
I don't want to hijack this thread.
Would you mind sending me an email?
thanks,
jasper60103@yahoo.com
We are in the process of testing SUV's to replace our '01 Tahoe and have been able to try some in-dash nav systems recently. After testing those systems and using the turn-by-turn, I can't imagine why anyone would want an in-dash version other than for the 'cool factor'.
Talk about easy. I just hit the blue On Star button, told the rep I was calling for directions, gave the name of my company (she looked up the address herself) and the directions were downloaded to the car. The vehicle then talks you through the route as you drive.
One thing the dealers may want to stress (or at least mention.....I had no idea) is that the directions also display in the driver information center window during the entire route. I'm not exactly sure why, but this was somewhat reassuring for me rather than relying on a disembodied voice to speak to me.
Overall, this set up is enormously easier than trying to type in information to a touch-screen nav system. My only suggestion for On Star would be to offer greater discounts for their long-term contracts so more consumers will stay with them after the free trial. Doing the math I see that signing up for a year saves me a little less than $30 rather than going month-to-month which allows me to drop it at any time.
In the four plus years that I owned my 2002 Seville, I never made use of OnStar except for the cell phone. I did keep the mid-level OnStar service. Now that I have Nav I see no reason for anything more than the basic OnStar.
The previous owner leased the car. I spoke with the previous owner, and it was serviced per the maintenance schedule. I have about 5 months left on the factory waranty, 4yr/50,000. Still deciding whether to buy an extended warranty.
I've had to take my Deville back to the dealer for a Check Engine light. Turned out to be a defective Air Pump. They replaced it under warranty. FYI, http://www.carcare.org/Emission_Control/air_pump.shtml.
Also, after driving for a couple months I noticed the brakes were worn. The dealer resurfaced the rotors (under warranty) and replaced the front pads under their goodwill policy.
The car drives great and I've been very happy with it otherwise. Thanks again.
-jasper
I'm comparing GMPP and AA Autowarranty (Warranty America). I'm skepticle about purchasing a 3rd party warranty after hearing some horry stories. On the other hand GMPP is much more expensive.
Can you recommend a 3rd party warranty company (that you filed a claim with)? I hear some low ball the cost of the repair, or find some rediculous reason to advoid paying claims.
thanks,
jasper
My '06 DTS still has all of the LEDs lighting up, but I see a lot of older Cadillac models with some LEDs that no longer light up.
I would not worry, if I am not mistaken, as long as your car is still under warranty, and there is no physical damage to the light assembly, this is a warranty item.
Thanks very much for your reply, so far as I know you are correct in all respects in this issue. I have called the dealership and the part has been ordered. You are also correct that it is a warranty item. I am suspecting that the car was sold to me that way (new). It is the fourth 130+ mile trip to the dealership in just a little over two months. It takes most of a day in that when I get there I have to wait
to have the work done. I am suspecting that one of the reasons that people are turning to the Japanese builders is initial build quality, don't think the service departments are any better than GM, Ford or Chrysler. This is my third Cadillac and I like the DTS very much but hope this will be the last glitch for a while. Will share the results and outcome when the work is done.
After reading the other posts on this condition I had pretty much resolved my self to accept it, as it was so common and there did not appear to be a fix. I had my car (2006 DTS Performance) in for an oil change and while waiting I mentioned the KNOCKING sound to the service writer. He knew immediately what the problem was and he told me of the TSB.
Still no replacement for the clock that I am aware of.
I can understand you being annoyed or frustrated after making several trips back to the dealer, but this is a small problem IMO.
Hardly worth a special 130 mile trip to the dealer, plus gas and your personal time.
I would do it at the next oil change or service need (before your warranty expires).
I can tell from your posts you are a perfectionist though!
Just my opinion.
-jasper
the dealership and will see when they get back to me on it.
Have also put a record of the defect with Cadillac via a case number. If this car had been bought even slightly used
rather than new I would not be so disappointed. I was surprised at how little interest the Cadillac Representative showed in the discussion of initial build quality. You are also correct that I am a bit of a perfectionist which is not a healthy trait. My warranty will not expire until early 2011 so I have plenty of time to get it repaired. I have appreciated your posts and like your viewpoint on these issues.
I purposely passed the destination. On Star asked if I wanted new directions by reconnecting to an advisor. This would mean waiting for a down load of new directions.
Meanwhile the built-in system had already re-calculated and was redirecting me to my destination. Also, you can see an actual map to clarify where you are with the built-in system.
I will not be renewing On Star unless they lower their prices.
Is there a Caddy dealer closer that you can go to? You don’t have to take it where you purchased it for repair work. Some items can even be repaired at a Chev dealer etc.
Good luck.
rather than individual bulbs. Many thanks for sharing information about your experience with this light cluster.
if it was likely that the car was delivered with this defect the answer was yes it was likely. Having had several
glitches with this new car I must go back to the issue of initial build quality. I think the American builders are offering good cars at competitive prices but are loosing out to the imports on the basis of initial build quality.
Am hoping that this will be my last malfunction with this car for a while given the fact that I have already had several previous ones in my brief period of ownership.
Anyway, overall, I think it was a wonderful car to spend time in. Also, if only Enterprise wasn't too cheap to pay for the satellite radio fee since the car came standard with XM radio! I expected satellite radio in renting a Cadillac, and didn't get it with Enterprise.
Bill P.
I think that your dealership would have found the defective battery sooner if you had explained more clearly that your starting problems were due to a weak battery. Calling it a "stalling" problem was incorrect.
mile new car warranty. Believe the 100,000 drivetrain warranty started with the 2007 DTS. The brake light was repaired under the warranty. I generally drive about 14,000 miles a year splitting my miles between my Lincoln Town Car and my DTS. I generally hold my cars an average of three years so the DTS would never reach 50,000 miles even if I kept it the full four years,it currenty has a little under 2,500 miles on it.