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Camrys are much more customizable, but the base LEs are hardly at a paucity for standard features. Keyless, power drivers seat, split folding rear seats, DRLs, cruise, its all there for $20,690 w/ABS.
I understand your point about families just starting out. Dont these families probably care about the cost of gasoline as well, though? And who's to say that such families are simply looking to get the most features for the dollar?
The Verona is a good car, it just seems like a hard sell based on anything other than features for the price.
~alpha
~alpha
Anyone want to get back on topic here?
:-)
plastic lens I think stop at wally wourld (wmart)
and pick up lens cleaner and a lens cloth you can ask for it in the eye glass dept. If yours don't have one look in pharmacy. that should clean it with out scratching it.Well I knew it was going to happen the camry accord guys are now rampin and ravin. and 20/20 insurance program is taking over. However state farm insurance just lowered my rate by 102.00 per year over my last vec. Why
because the insurance institute found the defect and Suzuki fixed it and retested the car and got an acceptable rating. all the cars built now days are trying to get in this bracket that is why there is so many design changes on all cars.
Anyone know about using synthetic oil for Verona?.
What may be related or not, is when I park the car
(my car is a 4 speed manual), with the shifter in any gear position, and apply the emergency brake, the car queaks loudly when I get out of the car. With the Emergency brake off, problem doesn't happen. Mechanics don't understand how to fix this problem either. Any suggestions?
Interestingly enough, GM sells the Epica in Canada for more money than a similarly equipped Verona. And the Verona looks nicer by the way, because they kept the traditional Daewoo Grille. In fact, the Verona in Canada gets better looking headlight assembly, Chrome Grille, White sporty looking instrument panel guages, Better stereo system with both CD and cassete, and all for less money(a couple of thousand less). Amazing but true. GM still counting on brand image and catering to uninformed North American buyers.
The car that seems to be the biggest hit here in Canada is the Aveo/Swift. There seems to be one on every corner now. So much that competitor KIA has started offering lifetime oil changes on their cars.
nevertheless, GM marketing guys at the Chicago auto show had the audacity to say the Aveo is "Much more reliable" than a Daewoo Lanos because the Aveo has a "GM Engine". Are they stupid or just acting stupid to cater for an ignorant public. The Daewoo Lanos and its predecessors have used the same GM engine in the Aveo for over ten years now. Ironically, the original daewoo Kalos which is what the Aveo is everywhere else in the world, has better trim, and a newer engine than this GM dinosaur.
The Verona remains the Gem of the GM Daewoo offerings, and according to the auto reviewers in Canada. You will have to buy a BMW to get a similar quality inline six cylinder engine as the one in the Verona. And for the first time in its history, Daewoo has not used a GM engine. The Inline six in the verona was designed by Dr. Ulrich Bez and with the assistance of Porsche in Germany, way back in 1998-1999, before Daewoo went bankrupt and before Dr. Bez was hired Aston Martin or Land Rover. GM gets no credit for this Gem of an engine. In fact I would only give them a bad rap for slapping a GM transmission on it and suffocating it. Imagine how good the Verona's performance could have been had they stuck with a Japanese transmission like the one in the Leganza.
~alpha
about the engine shhhhhhh can you here it? the rotten trans. did you fell the shift? If I needed a z28 I would be looking for one. The fact is the inline 6 is quiet and the shifts are smooth living around mountains and hills I found out from honda mecs. their auto trans are not indistrable. What about the 4cyls they are great for gas millage and they have the same hps. But what about the tork? Is it the same at the same leval of pricing of the cars? Ya Ya Ya what a bargin no problems quiet and smooth riding and comfy seats and well done. Suzuki has nothing to hang there head low about this car.
http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases/pressrelease.asp?ID=2004037
As I've previously noted, we can compare the Verona to other vehicles on the Comparisons board and we can discuss opinions about brand issues in general on the News & Views board.
If anyone has any questions about this, feel free to drop me an email.
Now, back to the Verona ...
curious,
alpha
We aren't going to spend time discussing the discussion here - please feel free to email me with further comments, but meanwhile let's talk about the car!
:-)
Jeff in Mo.
russ: Do I have a website for what?
I questioned the dealer about that an a check was made with Suzuki and the info in the owners manual is in error. The proper oil to use is
10w-30. Maybe some of you (hopefully all) have read your owners manual. My Verona is doing great, but I only have a bit over 1600 milles on it now and still love to drive it........
Ken
"While our 2004 models do not have side airbags, Suzuki has already begun to incorporate features aimed at enhancing vehicle compatibility, including side airbags and other features, in future vehicle designs."
Clearly stating they will have more airbag technology in furture designs. Not current offerings.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4750162/
If anyone has test driven both or owns both, let me know what persuaded you to choose one over the other.
Thanks,
Stacey
Hey Lil203000! Thanks for the lens cleaning tip!! Now I use that for cleaning the speedo and tacho lens and the results are excellent. The cost?. $2.49 that gives 25 cleaning wipes and a small bottle of liquid that I got from rite aid.
I would also like to share an excellent way of wiping off water from the verona after a wash. I use the California silicon rubber blade. Believe me this is so good ..you dont have to use a cloth.No scratched too!!. I also found a super wax... The eagleone nanowax. I use it on my Verona and have found great results. I am not advocating these products but merely stating that I found them excellent for the Verona.
I am now at 2250 miles. The Car performs superbly. The accelaration has greatly improved as has the ride. The Car has shown that it gives a capable performance after the initial break in period. Very happy with the Verona. The Car has a powerful Ac too.
I am sure next year, the Verona would be more enhanced.
Jeff, in Independence, Mo.
For those who have just purchased a Verona, theere is no transmission dip stick to check the fluid level. Only one maintenance tech at my dealer knew this. The fluid level is on a time/mileage check. I enjoy driving my Verona (oops.....I mean my wife's Verona). We have had it for just short of 7 months and it is about to turn 1700 miles. Will break it in one day.....
Ken
I will email you the information. I will also contact the local dealer here and ask them to check on the right oil for the Verona.I was aware of the missing dip stick from this forum. Infact reading this forum has given me a lot of information that I did'nt know before.
Glad you are enjoying the Verona like I am!! Can you give me your email address?.
Here is the email reply and question from Suzuki that I quote
REPLY...
" Thank you for your email - in the 2004 Verona Owner's Manual, the following recommendations are given:
On page 5-8 - Do not use SAE 10W-30 or SAE 20W-50...or any other viscosity grade oil not recommended.
On page 5-8 - Based on temperature, use SAE 5W-30, 10W-40 is acceptable if SAE 5W-30 is not available.
On page 5-9 - Warning against SAE 10W-30 or SAE 20W-50
On page 6-10 - Recommends SAE 5W-30, 10W-40 is acceptable if SAE 5W-30 is not available.
SPS Support
-----Original Message-----
From: Raj
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:09 PM
To: suzukiadmin@cdcTechnologies.com
Subject: Support
Name: Raj Iyer
Email: private
Business Name: Engr
QUESTION>>>
Message: <bThere is a discrepancy in the User Manual and schedule of maintenance charts for the Suzuki Verona Engine Oil, The Schedule of maintenance states that 10W30 is acceptable but the user manual specifically states that " UNDER NO CONDITIONS SHALL 10W30 BE ADDED" AND SPECIFIES 5W30 OR 10W40 OR UNDER SEVERE CONDITIONS USE A SYNTHETIC OIL". This is contradictory!!. Please let me know what is correct?.> and email me. I have a suzuki verona S and it runs very well.
I hope this will help in resolving the question.
Thanks
Other forum members may also ask the dealers or Suzuki and confirm.
P.S i was shopping for a forenza for my daughter, and the dealer i was at had a verona with a spoiler(which they had put on), and in silver. The car looked ok with the spoiler, but not good enough for me to put one on.
then review it. Maybe they would change there tune.
I will continue to use the dealer for the oil change just in case. By the way it is equal or less in cost than the oil changing places around here and the dealer always has the oil filter.
I still enjoy the Verona.
Ken
Thanks for the info. I think we will have to wait for a clarification from Suzuki. Even before I got my oil change, I had noted this point and informed my dealer. He was surprised that 10W30 was not recommended in the user manual. I think for all other models of suzuki, they use 10W30. He was'nt particularly happy to put 5W30 as he said that it was summer and the oil viscosity would thin due to high temp. He added 10W40 that has a higher viscosity than 5W30. I noted that initially, the Car seemed slow but picked up and runs very smooth. The Verona's computer seems senstive to changes and adapts to any change such as change in type of fuel,oil etc. The pit stop web site seems to still contradict the user manual. Ken, do yoou think its a good idea to buy oil yourself ( Maybe Mobil or sythetic ..) and ask the dealer to change?. Do they charge less for this?.
My Verona is doing very well. No problems.
Ken
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