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Ions and Cobalts are heavily discounted whereas the tC has never needed them....
The other 2 vehicles you're looking at may have their merits, but my extensive shopping in this class of car determined that the tC could not be beat as the best value and now it is proving itself to be the best vehicle as well. (My opinion)
Base your decision on your personal priorities and preferences. Safety, comfort, power, handling, standard equipment, styling, resale, reliability history, utility, etc. Then choose the best fit.
Thanks,
Chintan Talati
The down side to adding a rear wiper will be where the water will go when activated. If positioned like an 06 eclipse, the water will roll onto the "trunk" and into the cargo when opened or onto the hatch side to roll into the trunk when opened. Adding a rear wiper will be practical but will cause to many problems. Ask eclipse, tiburon or rsx owners. If not standard, it should be a $362 option.
btw, its not on the 2007 tC as they're already out.
I almost 4got, $100 has been added to the msrp .
Here is the manufacturers initial quality data:
JD
and I may add the Tiburon was one of three in its class for rated tops for initial quality. Would not say the 2003 model year went smooth, but other than that, see no other bum year for the New Tib. The Scion has more road feel? More power? For road tracking, and Acura RSX or a Celica comes to mind. Scion and Tiburon are good GT or Touring Class cars. For power, I assume you are not comparing the tC to the Tiburon GT.
Which is a better car? I guess they are different enough that there may be no clear winner. For everyday runs to the store, I guess perhaps the Scion. If you like a sunroof, Scion has it. I don't car for a sun roof. Wonder if the sunroof is gone on the Spec tC ? Extra high up weight and possible leak or rattle area, when not desired in the first place, would be a welcomed delete in my case.
-Loren
The audio controls on the Scion steering wheels are OK but I noticed on the 2006 Scion xA in Polar White and 5-speeds that I drove that the audio controls were more annoying to me than helpful. I wouldn't mind the Scion tC Spec's regular stereo controls, actually.
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The sunroof is on the spec model.
The tC is like a celica replacement and toyota had a convertible celica in the 1990s and i think it will sell much better now. In fact toyota had 2 small convertibles, the Paseo which might sell well as a topless yaris and the celica. The problem with that celica and paseo was that they were stingy with the interior and the paseo was stingy with the HP. Seriously, if you were 6'2, would you but a cramped convertible with only 90hp and about 100lb feet of torque?
It'll grab more attention than the BIG solara!!
The Spec tC looks like a good value. Will keep watching the figures on reliability / initial quality figures. Seems like side air bags, which is now standard on many cars, should be standard.
As far as engines go, the tC seems to have enough HP, but if they want to tweak things, I say let's see if they can get it to 175HP + without a blower. A 180# torque engine would be cool. What it has now, of course is plenty for a quick car. Now fast, when needed comes with a blower, for those that feel the need for speed.
-Loren
I ment that the tiburon is slow for a pudgy v6 model and the tC is quick for a pudgy I4 model. And i dont think it is fair to compare the 4cy tibby to anything other than the standard civic? both also need to go on a gas diet. better?
*How is that said/ spelled???
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In the area where I live, the dearships are offering tCs with black leather. I haven't gottten to try it yet because when i get there, they're all sold out . IMO, tc's last on the lot maybe 4days before they are sold
I might entertain chrome wheels with the silver.
How are everyone's Bridgestone Potenza's holding up? Well? Are they only lasting you 20,000 miles? That's what research is saying so far. If that's the case I'll just go order a brand new tire and wheel set off the net for my tC Spec that will hold up beyond 20,000 miles. Is it rainy weather that wears them prematurely? Why are decent tires like Bridgestone Potenza's only lasting 20,000 miles? Or are they not decent tires at all. I think Yokohama makes a great tire as does Toyo. These Potenza's may not be very well made, huh?
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Notice I typed that is what I'll pay, not that is what I would pay. Oh yeah, I've got it dug into my mind now that I want a tC.
Have y'all noticed that the Scion tC's value doesn't drop after you buy it, either? No kidding! I just did a Kelley Blue Book valuation on the 2005 Scion tC and it listed it's book price at $19,490! That must be a typo! Why would a year old Scion tC sell for more than my 2007 Scion tC Spec in 5-speeds and Flint Mica or Classic Silver Metallic?
I think Toyota is on to something big here. :surprise:
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Any1 like th light blue: :P
Why would a Scion tC gain value, though? Yikes.
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emoticons
u mean emotorcons? Heck i dont blame you time to ditch these emo cars for some newer ones perhaps animated...
I am adding: fog lights, rear lip spoiler, iPod radio, door sill plates, blue LED interior lighting, wheel locks, bumper protecter thingy... can't wait!
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Here again, expectations governed by what I had read were not quite met. The P's are louder than I expected, wet roads are marginaly better as far as I can tell as of yet, no snow experience yet, but I can say there is a huge difference in handling (for the better) and at a much lower cost.
Hoping that the tread wear is satisfactory, time will tell. All things considered, the Zero's are the far better choice - better performance (how much is subjective) at a more reasonable cost.
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With appreciation
-Cj
That's why the car is noisy for freeway cruising and gets lower highway gas mileage than many larger V6 cars.
Annoying!
The only good things about it are that this old transmission probably makes the MSRP a little lower, people who do 90% in town city driving won't miss the extra gear and maybe it will have fewer typical Toyota automatic transmission problems Toyota has been having the last several years on Camrys and other Toyotas.
-Cj :shades:
Prius: too small
Matrix: too small
Celica: not made anymore but that wiper could have worked
4runner/gx470: to big
highlander: May fit
rav4/rx: to small
sequoia/lx470: too big
xa/xb: to small
And because of this, toyota couldn't afford to just make one since the ones in the parts bin aren't the right size. Toyota should have put the one from the celica on the tC but its to late now.
Some rani-x should help out with this problem alot. Go to your nearest auto parts store, Cvs, wallgreens, wal*mart, ect and spend that little $3 on this little bottle.
It may not be the perfect alternative to a rear wiper but it does take away from most of that frustration. Hope it helps!!
-Cj :shades:
That white one looks awesome, I just made it my background picture on my Windows background. Very nice shade, and the Metallic Silver also looks great on the Scion tC.
I like the $15,000 price and find it comical that one Internet report(a passing blog)says that Scion doesn't want to sell these Spec tC's for 2007 for just $15,000 to anybody. I mean, the report read like they are encouraging the salesmen to discourage anyone from buying just a 2007 Scion tC Spec in their favorite color. Humm...say that ain't so, Joe.
Like they (Scion salesmen) are going to go overboard trying to sell you options and care packages of all sorts, like you or not. Yikes. :surprise:
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1, The spec tC has a panorama moonroof but it doesn't open.
2, Toyota is actually considering dropping the tC in the mid 2008 model year . I lost the link when my history was deleted but will post where i found that when i find that. Thats a dumb move for toyota because the tC is one of the best selling toyota models. Hopefully they will just do a freshening of it.
Also take note that toyota may freshen the tC next year and if enough people recommend toyota add a rear wiper to the tC, they may do it. I mean hey, even the prius has one and it is sooo tiny. How many people actually use their rear wipers often? My dad stopped after using rain-x on his 4runner.
-Cj
-Cj
I could see them dropping/replacing the xA.
xA
*A 1.8l 4cyl from corolla.
*A instrument panel in front of the driver.
*A a 5 speed auto
*Better rear wiper
*Better standard stereo system
xB
*same as xA
*A more aerodynamic cubic body so mpg can further improve
*A separate opening rear glass window (like 4runner or like highlander).
*The tCs reclining rear seats
*Rear ac vents
*signal mirrors standard
tC
*a 5speed auto
*a rear wiper (at least as an option; not prius sized)
*losing some weight by changing some materials
*the 2007 camrys 4cyl engine
*a rear center armrest that allows for storage and skis pass-through
I guess i'm just nit picking.
-Cj
All three models are pretty awesome cars, viewed individually or as a whole.
For example, if I were to go order a Polar White 2006 5-speed Scion xA tomorrow the only thing I'd probably want to add would be some of their EP-10 wheels. Either that or order some type of wheel from Tire Rack or Discount Tire. I'd do it right off the bat, too. The standard features on the Scion xA are plenty of car for this padre. I just love the look of the xA with nice wheels, though, and to see the car without nice wheels only gives me 78% of the car.
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(like the tC keeping the alticara seats even as an option.)
-Cj :shades:
That brings up a question, though. Does the Scion xA have turn signals on top of it's mirrors like on the tC? I think it does but I'm not sure. I'll go to the Scion website later if I think of it or anybody just chime in that knows the answer to that one, K?
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Answer your question? Also scion added the steering wheel audio controls to the xA and xB. Wow, the tC started things... The signal mirrors (tC & xa), the panorama roof (tC & es350), steering wheel audio (tC, xA, xB, Fj cruiser)
The xB relese series 2.0 had them also but not like the tC or xA.
-Cj
Note that little orange side marker below the turnlight/headlamp cluster combo on the xA, there. That little orange marker is just a reflector. The little Japanese import carries lots of markers per square foot of automobile, doesn't it, when you add the simple reflectors to the actual lamps with operating bulbs inside them. Yikes. It's a well-lit machine!
Remind me which Scion you're thinking of getting autoboy, if you are still interested, OK?
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The reason the spec isn't for me is because i often use my sunroof and i would love to have audio controls on my steeringwheel. Plus i like the standard 17" rims. My toyo.. I mean scion dealership has almost 42 tC in my preference so i'm in no rush. Good luck with the xA!! Are you going to wait a few weeks until the special edition xA comes out? I love the seats in the release tC but i'm not looking for a car now. Maybe in four years. I'd still get a used 2006/2007 tC as it gets about the same hp and mpg as my accord. My accord was worth about $5k and rose up to $7k so i'm loving the resale value (only paid $4500 because i got 1k off.)
-Cj :shades:
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-Cj