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I've got a Celica that was in today for an oil change. While I was in the showroom, I tried on a tC for size (I've got a 36" inseam) and, at first, I was dismayed to find out that the available front seat legroom was pretty stingy. My knees were really bent and the salesman checked twice to see that the seat was all the way back. It was.
But then the salesman noted that the seat was too high (seperate lever on side of seat). It was all the way up. He ratcheted the seat down WHICH ALSO MOVED IT BACK. I then got back in the car.
It was like night and day. I found that I fit just fine.
Looking at my copy of the sales invoice, I notice that they were going to charge me several fees, that I didn't find reasonable?
1) CARFAX fee for my Trade-in $25.00
2) Value Package Fee $189.00
3) Deputy Service Fee $ 5.00
Besides the pre-printed Doc fee the Value Pack. fee has also been pre-printed.
Of all the fees I mentioned upon... are any of those disputable charges that I can have removed?
Thanks everyone!
I taking delivery of my new Flint Mica 5spd hopefully in about a week!
-BigKid
Looking at my copy of the sales invoice, I notice that they were going to charge me several fees, that I didn't find reasonable?
1) CARFAX fee for my Trade-in $25.00
2) Value Package Fee $189.00
3) Deputy Service Fee $ 5.00
Besides the pre-printed Doc fee the Value Pack. fee has also been pre-printed.
Of all the fees I mentioned upon... are any of those disputable charges that I can have removed?
Thanks everyone!
I taking delivery of my new Flint Mica 5spd hopefully in about a week!
-BigKid
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Just to follow up . . .
I do have the Bazooka sub but it is in the tC enclosure. It's the enclosure that is keeping me from being able to access the spare tire compartment.
Someday I may even find out what a real highway trip will produce, but not on Sunday night in August on the NJT and GSP.
I have a 5 speed. No issues with the clutch in a traffic jam, nice and light.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
What is the "Value Package"?
I did not drive any of the cars, but looked them over. They look great except for the black interior. If you live in Phoenix, you realize that a light colored upholstery is more important than the exterior color. Other than that, I really liked what I saw. Does anyone have any suggestions about seat covers or cushions that will lighten the inside. This is a huge concern for me. It was north of 110 degrees today, and I can't imagine driving a car with a black interior.
I may go back to looking at the Mazda3.
Also, has anyone purchased a Scion tc in Phoenix? What were your experiences with the dealerships? What did you pay?
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Mackabee
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Mackabee
Go to Classic Soft Trim on line and find a dealer in your area. I had them install leather (very light grey - opal to them). They did the seats, console, side panels for $995. In Phoenix I would go for perforated leather in the centers for an extra $50.
My questions are more for any of the dealers that frequent these forums. Being a college student that has never had a credit card (just use my debit/check card as a credit card) I have no credit. Only form of "credit" I have is from paying my rent for the last year and a half. I know Toyota has what was referred to me as "automatic qualification for tier one financing" for students graduating in 4 months or that have graduated in the past 2 years. My first question is what APR is tier one, currently? I'm trying to plan ahead with what I should expect. I'm probably going to be going with a 60 month loan but I'm going to try and pay it off in 2 years. Only reason I'm going for 60 months is in-case-[non-permissible content removed]-happens since I'll be fresh out of college and will be just starting work full time. My second question: In my case what can I expect on a down payment for the tC? Up to this point I've been planning on around 10% down, but since I have no credit will I have to put 20% down? My final question has to do with the $400 cash rebate for recent graduates. Is this factored in before or after the cost of the vehicle, ie before or after financing is calculated?
It's hard for me to follow this list right now (work and school makes jack a busy boy) so if you can shoot me an email with any replies if it's not a bother, ryans#gamersimpact.com (replace # with @).
Thanks.
After a lot of comparison shopping (Mazda3 included) I ordered my tC a few days ago. Can't wait to join what seems to be a strong contingent of happy owners.
First of all, we are a message board and don't encourage off-line e-mails. We want people to talk within the forums.
Second of all, you are probably on the wrong board with this question.
Use our "search" feature to the left and type in keywords related to financing or credit.
thanks
Host
Document fee - $50
Safety Inspection - $40
No trade in as I sold my car outright.
Other than that, it was tax and title/registration and list price.
I'm waiting on a flint mica also. When did you order yours? I ordered mine Aug. 13. Three weeks tomorrow and no flint mica in Texas yet per the dealer a few minutes ago. He lept hinting around about a different color. No way... FM rules
10% down is fine as long as you qualify for the program. The APR will change a few times by the time your ready to buy in DEC.
I can't imagine why I would. I've never had a credit card. I got a credit report from freecreditreport.com and it showed nothing but a bunch of zeros. It only showed one of the 3 credit reporting companys' reports but doubt they'd be any different.
If I don't start work after I graduate I won't be getting a car, so that's an easy one.
I just wasn't sure if Toyota Financing would want more of a down payment or what, never bought a car before.
1) XM Radio is listed as a $450 option. If you were to purchase the tuner/antenna kit yourself it would be $150+installation. I can't imagine installation being $300... How can they get away with charging this much for this accessory? Is there something I'm missing here?
2) Subwoofer option is listed as $450 option. Does this include an amplifier? Or is the sub powered off the factory pioneer head unit? Even if it includes the amp, I'm almost tempted to get my own aftermarket sub, amp and enclosure just so I don't have to mess with removing it if I ever needed to use the spare.
However, I almost always just let the kids at Best Buy do it. That way if they break anything they have to pay for it. My problem with this though is with the Scion being such a new model I'm not sure if I would trust them to do it. I doubt they have seen very many if any of these.
As far as the "issue" with the stereo cover is concerned, if enough complaints are filed Scion just might redesign the current one and retrofit under warranty. For those of you that are 4runner fans, you may remember when the current generation 4runner came out there were a ton of complaints on the gray cladding. Toyota started the color keyed cladding mid year.
Mackabee
I think there is something related to the annual income as a part of the whole thing, right? and of course there should be soemthing else... ( i think ) please educate me more about this, thanks.
Any recommendations?
Should the pedal cover surface be smooth or somewhat rough (to avoid slip off)?
Thanks,
Joe.
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Mackabee
Even with a good score, things like judgements, liens, bankruptcies and "slow pays" could trip you up. (Those will lower your score, of course, but even with a high score, any one of those could be a deal killer.) Also, be careful to apply for credit only when you need it. Every application will cause a "hit" on your credit score that will result in it dropping a few points.
Another important piece is your Debt to Income Ratio. Your debt to income ratio is calculated by dividing monthly minimum debt payments (excluding mortgage or rent, utilities, food, entertainment) by monthly gross income. For example, someone with a gross monthly income of $2,000 who is making minimum payments of $400 on debt (loans and credit cards) has a debt to income ratio of 20 percent ($400 / $2000 = .20).
This formula will vary slightly from lender to lender but only slightly. Some include the mortgage but raise the acceptable ratios... others do not.
According to Geri Detweiler, author of the Ultimate Credit Handbook:
36% or less: This is a healthy debt load to carry for most people.
37%-42%: Not bad, but start paring debt now before you get in real trouble.
43%-49%: Financial difficulties are probably imminent unless you take immediate action.
50% or more: Get professional help to aggressively reduce debt.
A good debt to income ratio calclator is available here: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech/tools/modebtratio.htm
Lastly, for what it's worth, I believe you always have an "edge" with a dealer when you go in with a preapproval for your loan. Sure, they may have a better deal but your pre-approval lets them know they are dealing with someone with dang good credit.
Hope this helps a bit . . .
Peter
Good Things
- Car looks great, fit and finish is amazing, just as good as my parent's Lexus.
- Handling is great. Car turns into corners without any hesitation
- Material and texture are of first grade. All surfaces are of high quality material. The ring light around the keyhole, the slow dimming of the lights after opening the door, etc. are all good touches.
- Fairly quiet, no sound from other cars. But fair amount of noise from the road and tire.
- Lots of low end torque and power
- Break is very strong
- No noise from the roof yet, dealer told me that Toyota might have addressed it in their production following complains from initial owners.
Bad things (may be I am picky)
- Stereo is decent, but not great. tc mode is horrible. I have my set to xb mode. The sound is "full" (good range), but the vocal frequency sound is not clean/clear.
- Not really fan of orange displays. I would have preferred something white or blue.
- Does tc have power steering? The steering wheel is a little stiff. It takes a little effort to turn. May be because it is new.
- The seat is a little stiff. The car sits fairly high for a coupe. I have the seat cranked all the way down. It also give me some more headroom.
- Fair amount of noise from the road/tire (Oregon road tends to be very bumpy) If you open up the spare tire well. You would notice that exposed metal body without any insulation. I'll probably add some sound proofing later on.
- AC is cool but not cold. The outside temperature is 72 according to the display. So probably ~80 inside the car. I turned on the AC and put it in circulation, and drove for about 10 minutes. The air gets cool (may be mid 70s) but not really cold. Is this normal? my old 97 Volvo AC is ice cold in comparison (If I crank it up, it would get cold enough that I would need a jacket, so ~60F ish). Is that because of the new freon on newer model car?
- The soft black rubber moldings around the roof glass do not look very robust. They will probably tear/crack in couple of years.
This car is beautiful, comfortable, and has great pick up. Watch out guys. This isn't just your car!
Best recommendation is to do what I did. scramble from dealer to dealer until you see each color on the car itself. Good luck.