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The model was a HL Limited.
Mack
Sorry I have never bought a new car before (poor broke college kid...lol)
Thanks very much for all your advice!
Right out of your Service Manual.
Every 5000 mi or 6 months
..Oil and oil filters
..Rotate your tires
..Check your brakes
That's it.
You might want to change your air filter as needed.
Do a 'winterization' as needed.
Have your plugs replaced sometime beyond 100,000 miles.
Owners are finding that the hybrid models need even less maintenance. Weird.
Mackabee
From the description, it is not clear if the option provides (a) another setting to control the rear temperature operated from the front panel or (b) a control setting for the rear that can be operated by rear (2nd row) passengers or (c) a separate independent HVAC unit for the rear that can be independently controlled through option (a) or (b), which should technically provide better cooling or heating to the rear (I'm thinking room air-conditioner vs. central A/C)
I live in the norCal Bay Area and I need to decide if I should to fly to soCal and buy or get it locally without the rear A/C.
Expert opinions on this appreciated. Thanks.
I hope this is helpful. Dealerships to avoid in Socal Torrance Toyota: they over price their vehicles, and there's no room for negotiation. Look at Longo Toyota, Cabe Toyota, Toyota of Cerritos, these are the one's that come to mind. good luck
This time i will make sure all the controls are correct and report back.
Curious what everyone's thoughts are on value? The 2008 Edge should be out soon, and I've heard they are upgrading their nav system to a Bluetooth system. Even at MSRP, it is a less expensive car than HL (and I should be able to do much better than MSRP.) I plan to keep the car three years or more. Will the difference in depreciation make up the difference in cost for the HL?
Thanks for replying my post! I spoke to some friends last night and they said that I should buy a Pilot. It is better overall. Can anyone confirm this? I heard Pilot has some noise problem. is it really loud enough to be a problem? how about the ride? is it comfortable and soft (not rough like my 4Runner)? Anyone with experience, please share. Thanks
The Toyota should be better due to the newer design, but will also carry a serious price premium.
The Honda right now can be had for a song and a dance due to its last year of this body style, pretty crazy deals I have heard about 5000-6000 off list.
Next year when my time comes to find what fits my likes and lifestyle I will test drive the following (all have 3rd row):
Honda Pilot (new design) & Odyssey
Toyota Highlander & Sienna
Saturn Outlook/GMC Acadia twins
Mazda CX-9
Hyundai Veracruz
Acura MDX
Nothing else comes to mind worth bothoring.
Good luck,
B.
Mack
Mackabee
Has anyone seen a HL LMT with black leather interior.
I am tired of the ASH or other light color
Salesman says that the Sport version is noticeably stiffer than the Limited. Which trim level do you have?
1) driving any toyota/ lexus brand gives a vanilla driving experience
-the Honda won't be as vanilla an experience as the toyota.
2) toyotat is the #1 japanese auto corp because it sells the most vehicles, recently there have been quality ctrl problems in models like the new camry. Logic suggests there are elsewhere too.
3) Since the Pilot has not been significantly redesigned it should be easier to negotiate with the dealer than with the redesigned Pilot.
4) A mazda CX-7 will be slightly smaller than both of these but in terms of driving enjoyment it may provide the best driving experience, not to mention a cabin that yells quality.
hope this helps
1) I am dissappointed with the edge's interior way too many hard plastics, that look like they came out of the playskool mold. There is something to be said about reliability, with a toyota you should have zero problems, a ford that is a different issue.
take a look at the Mazda CX-7 better quality similar power, and guaranteed less problems.
2) you should judge your driving experience/ pleasure on how you feel not on what other's say or write.
case in pt: if the reviews say the car drives well, i can guarantee you will tell yourself it must be me, yet you will still be miserable driving the car. It sounds like you are already pretty unhappy.
You should weigh how you truly feel about this car, if you loathe driving it, you still have an opportunity to save face and find something you really like. It won't be like this in the next 2 weeks, when depreciation really sets in.
Go with how you feel inside.
I test-drove the Limited, and though road-handling capabilities were fine--this will be the family car, so I don't want something too stiff. I did not find it bouncy, more like a bit "floaty", and it did lean a bit in the corners. Let's face it, the Highlander is in sorts the "Camry wagon", so I'd expect the same level of ride.
If you really want to remove doubt from your mind, go test drive a Sport model. Maybe you'll agree with all these reviewers that it does handle better, but maybe you'll also find it too stiff!
If the manufacturer advertises the vehicle as producing a level of HP/torque that requires that premium fuel be used, I'm quite sure the government would require so stating.
Maybe they should start advertising HP/torque with regular and premimum.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Ignition can only be retarded so much and that's what the knock sensor does.
I'll repeat what I said, with really high performance engines, high octane fuel is needed.
Ignition timing is no longer the primary resource for the engine ECU to use to prevent knock/ping, these days it does that by adjusting the A/F mixture.
"I'll repeat what I said, with really high performance engines, high octane fuel is needed."
Not "required"...?
Then I agree.
And so does Porsche.
When we picked up our 911/996 C4 at the factory I was told that during my driving throughout europe I would not always be able to fuel with premium, but I HAD TO always avoid leaded fuels or it would cost me $1000 to replace the catalytic converter before shipping to the US.
The factory rep explained to me that with EFI under/during acceleration the mixture would be automatically adjusted such that the engine would run perfectly well for but with a lower peak HP/torque level.
I agree about leaded fuel. That's a whole different animal.
Do I think putting 85 octane in an M3 or S2000 will ruin anything? Probably not unless it's really driven hard but if I owned one I'd use 91 or better. I use 93 in my '05 Legacy GT partly because it's chipped and partly because I tried 87 and it didn't like it.
My wife has a 99 Passat V6 and the manual asks for 91. We do put 87 in that.
However, the $3500 marketing support for 07 Honda Pilot simply drives the decision, the out of door price of EX-L matches listed average in Edmunds, LX bit higher in MD if you could find one. The similarly equipped 07 AWD Pilot would beats other two by $2500-4000 including Freight for LX, $5000-7000 for EX-L/LTD. No need to mention the nest resale value of the Pilot, the one does look and feel like a truck, quite rough looking inside and out, sound system/changer might be the worst in all three. Average 20 w 80% HWY, don't think other ones are much better in milage except Enclave on HWY. Except for Tysons Corner Honda, most of other dealers in DC area only had a few left.
The savings and values for Pilot surely will buy your time to see how the quality of first year production lines for HL, Veracruz, Enclave etc play out in next few years
2. The 08 Highlander was increased in size over the 07 and earlier models so now it is the same size as the 07 Pilot. When the 08 Pilot comes out, it will be bigger than the 08 Highlander.
I read professional reviews saying the Ltd is "floaty" and "leans" in corners. Some reviews say theres is little difference between the sport and Ltd.
How does the steering feel?
I currently own a 2003 Limited.
If there is anyone out there who has purchased a 2008 and can compare it to the 2003 limited, I would be grateful
thanks
Also thinking of running boards, but, again, how will they look since it appears they only come in black. Anyone with experience here?