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Mack
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Mack
At least you have all those helpful and friendly co-workers to commiserate with. The stories you come up with - sheesh!
tidester, host
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Still no QR (auto rear air) in NorCal per the dealers, although Toyota.com configurator with Walnut Creek, CA zip code says its available for Limited 4x2. Have you heard anything more? I do have a dealer who will order it but that's a while and a little more cost.
Thanks
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Details for Option A - $2,520
- JBL® AM/FM 6-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® [7] wireless technology and nine speakers including subwoofer in seven locations (EJ)
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- Color-keyed sport-styled rear spoiler with LED center high-mount stop lamp (CHMSL) (RF)
- Multi-stage heated front seats (HD)
- Power rear door with jam protection (PB)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade (SR)
Details for Option B - $2,685
- JBL® AM/FM 6-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® [7] wireless technology and nine speakers including subwoofer in seven locations (EJ)
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- CFC-free rear automatic digital climate control system with integrated multi-function display and air filter [5] (QR)
- Power rear door with jam protection (PB)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade (SR)
- Towing Prep Package [3]-includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, transmission oil cooler with water cooler, 150-amp alternator and prewired harness (TO)
Details for Option C - $2,740
- JBL® AM/FM 6-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® [7] wireless technology and nine speakers including subwoofer in seven locations (EJ)
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- Color-keyed sport-styled rear spoiler with LED center high-mount stop lamp (CHMSL) (RF)
- Multi-stage heated front seats (HD)
- Power rear door with jam protection (PB)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade (SR)
- Towing Prep Package [3]-includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, transmission oil cooler with water cooler, 150-amp alternator and prewired harness (TO)
Details for Option D - $3,015
- JBL® AM/FM 6-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® [7] wireless technology and nine speakers including subwoofer in seven locations (EJ)
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- Carpet/cargo mat - 3 row seating (CT)
- Color-keyed sport-styled rear spoiler with LED center high-mount stop lamp (CHMSL) (RF)
- Multi-stage heated front seats (HD)
- Power rear door with jam protection (PB)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade (SR)
- Towing Prep Package [3]-includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, transmission oil cooler with water cooler, 150-amp alternator and prewired harness (TO)
Details for Option E - $3,325
- JBL® AM/FM 6-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® [7] wireless technology and nine speakers including subwoofer in seven locations (EJ)
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- CFC-free rear automatic digital climate control system with integrated multi-function display and air filter [5] (QR)
- Color-keyed sport-styled rear spoiler with LED center high-mount stop lamp (CHMSL) (RF)
- Multi-stage heated front seats (HD)
- Power rear door with jam protection (PB)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade (SR)
- Towing Prep Package [3]-includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, transmission oil cooler with water cooler, 150-amp alternator and prewired harness (TO)
Details for Option F - $4,260
- JBL® AM/FM 6-disc in-dash CD changer with satellite radio capability [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® [7] wireless technology and nine speakers including subwoofer in seven locations (EJ)
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- Body side molding (BM)
- Carpet/cargo mat - 3 row seating (CT)
- Color-keyed sport-styled rear spoiler with LED center high-mount stop lamp (CHMSL) (RF)
- Exhaust tip by Valor (E5)
- Mudguards (MF)
- Multi-stage heated front seats (HD)
- Power rear door with jam protection (PB)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade (SR)
- Running boards (RB)
- XM satellite radio (P7)
Details for Option G - $4,615
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- Color-keyed sport-styled rear spoiler with LED center high-mount stop lamp (CHMSL) (RF)
- Multi-stage heated front seats (HD)
- Power rear door with jam protection (PB)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade (SR)
- Towing Prep Package [3]-includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, transmission oil cooler with water cooler, 150-amp alternator and prewired harness (TO)
- Voice-activated DVD navigation system[8] with JBL® AM/FM 4-disc in-dash CD changer, satellite radio capability [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® [7] wireless technology and nine speakers including subwoofer in seven locations (NV) Details for
Option H - $4,670
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- Carpet/cargo mat - 3 row seating (CT)
- Color-keyed sport-styled rear spoiler with LED center high-mount stop lamp (CHMSL) (RF)
- Multi-stage heated front seats (HD)
- Power rear door with jam protection (PB)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade (SR)
- Voice-activated DVD navigation system[8] with JBL® AM/FM 4-disc in-dash CD changer, satellite radio capability [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® [7] wireless technology and nine speakers including subwoofer in seven locations (NV) Details for
Option I - $5,200
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- CFC-free rear automatic digital climate control system with integrated multi-function display and air filter [5] (QR)
- Color-keyed sport-styled rear spoiler with LED center high-mount stop lamp (CHMSL) (RF)
- Multi-stage heated front seats (HD)
- Power rear door with jam protection (PB)
- Power tilt/slide moonroof with sunshade (SR)
- Towing Prep Package [3]-includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, transmission oil cooler with water cooler, 150-amp alternator and prewired harness (TO)
- Voice-activated DVD navigation system[8] with JBL® AM/FM 4-disc in-dash CD changer, satellite radio capability [6], MP3/WMA playback capability, hands-free phone capability via Bluetooth® [7] wireless technology and nine speakers including subwoofer in seven locations (NV) Details for
Option J - $6,450
- Rear-seat DVD entertainment system with 9-inch display, rear-seat audio and two wireless headphones [11] (includes 115V power outlet and RCA jacks) [12] (EY)
- 50 state emissions (FE)
- Carpet/cargo mat - 3 row seating (CT)
- Color-keyed
Mackabee
I realize the Toyota.com configurator lists the QR option--it's just that dealers say there are no cars in NorCal with QR, i.e., the Web site doesn't match reality. You had said your source said that QR would come to NorCal in September so I wondered if you had heard anything more?
--There are two plastic covers protecting the rear underbody on the driver's and passenger sides. Both must be removed to install the hitch. The instructions say the passenger side cover can be put back on; FYI this means removing one additional screw holding the bumper cover on the passenger side. This then allows for enough flex to get the passenger side underody panel back in place normally. Afterwards you can easily replace the bumper cover screw.
--The driver's side underbody cover is a behemoth and supposedly cannot be replaced after the hitch is installed. However, it is simply a black plastic item. It's a wonder what metal shears and some careful trimming will do - although to make it work, you must trim out about 35% of the original part.
I liked putting those underbody covers back in place just to ensure that road gunk doesn't accumulate behind the tires and inside the rear bumper overhang. These panels are completely invisible in normal driving - only you will know if they're there or not.
At least the options are being listed in the configuration
I didn't say it was going to be easy.
TO is a big option that wasn't on the list a month ago
give it a few more months - things will improve
go around as to where the pre wired harness is. i have now been informed that i have to purchase one from the dealer and have it installed as there apparently isn,t one on the car. any thoughts?
Mack
You must then get your own receiver hitch ($220 or so) and Toyota will gleefully sell you the wiring kit to get from the harness in the engine compartment all the way back to the hitch (which you had to install). Cost for that baby is about $300, I believe. Available through Toyota parts of course.
Because I put my hitch on only for my bike rack and not really to tow, I won't be giving Toyota any more money at present.
Is this bad planning and greed on Toyota's part? Oh, yes, indeed it is.
If Toyota themselves are this unsure about their BSMs (and some HLs have it installed as a factory option!), then I sure as heck wouldn't be buying them off eBay.
Tks for the clarification on the wiring harness.
Mack
As to the OP's question, being precise about what is installed is important. I believe the correct terminaology is that the vehicle with the Tow Prep package comes 'prewired' but that ends at the engine.
When the 'DH' extra is ordered as well, that is the hitch itself, then the wiring harness from the engine back to the hitch is included. It isn't otherwise.
Thus 'Prewired' in Toyota's lexicon means that the fuses and the electronics are in place at the engine...but that's it.
It's intentional. Every vehicle that doesn't have the Drop Hitch ( DH ) from the factory but does have the Tow Prep Pckg ( TO ) is like this. It comes up over and over and over again.
Consider from the other perspective. They produce a vehicle with the TO package and include the wiring harness at whatever cost it is, say $200, and a significant number of buyer never ever tow with it. Why then include that $200 harness and increase the price of the vehicle when many will never utilize it? By not including it the price of the vehicle is kept lower for those that don't want to tow -ever. Yet those that do want to tow also get the lower price but then have to invest in the harness and hitch.
If I'm buying the tow package to tow with I should know what I'm getting. Plain and simple.
This issue keeps coming up over and over thru the years. Don't you think Toyota would realize they are confusing their customers needlessly. Not good customer relations in my book.
It's nowhere in their brochure, for instance. And BTW, the brochure copy reads this way for TO (my emphasis):
Towing Prep Package -includes 5000-lb. towing capacity, heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, transmission oil cooler with water cooler, 150-amp alternator and prewired harness
That would imply to many that it's a prewired harness - to the back of the car, for chrissakes.
Is this bad planning and greed on Toyota's part, Oh, yes, indeed it is.
It may be a regional situation where it's available to EC buyers....but I don't think so.
Again, the brochure and the internet website is replete with all PIOs for the Highlander - mats, cargo nets, body side molding (whoops, not for now) - but again, no mention of this DH option.
I think I'm actually fairly close to the base.
It may be a timing question also since these are new models they may have added the DH lately, after the brochures were printed. These are all installed here in the States.
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AS OF 8/3/07 ON BACKORDER."
My guess is that there's a stop sale order out because of adhesion problems - i.e., it's likely these are great BSMs that fall off a few weeks after you apply them.
You do let us know, though.
Mackabee
You are correct Kdh, I knew it was a harness so at least I was half right!
Mack
That statement is just wrong on so many levels.
When you do get your BSMs, I'd be interested in knowing how the rears are configured. The factory BSMs are thin for the first few inches, presumably so they don't pop off or rub against the front door when you open the rear door.
Please enlighten us all what you mean. btw, the bsm that I ordered ARE genuine toyota mouldings. The same ones that they install portside. They do not install these at the "factory" They are either installed at the port or at the dealer and 99.9% of the time they are installed at the dealer using the same part, which there is only 1 of and happens to be the ones I ordered so I am not sure what u are talking about.
1) You're telling people that this particular vendor doesn't update its website.
2) You're then telling people in the same sentence that, should they stumble upon "out of stock - backorder" on a website, they should instantly make an intuitive leap and CALL the vendor.
3) This, um, negates the entire purpose of having a website!
So I said the statement was wrong - on so many levels.
To reiterate: It sounds to me like there's nothing wrong with the BSMs per se - it's probably an adhesion issue. Hence the "stop sale."
#2)It is "logical" to call a vendor if nearly a month and a half goes by from the original backorder date to see is maybe, just maybe they came in, especially when there is an " add to cart" button right next to it! duh, THAT is what "logical" is.
#3) You have no idea why the stop sale was issued and are just pissing in the wind and throwing out "illogical,unsubstantiated" assumptions
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Guess I'll stick to my sliders. :shades: Thanks!
Thanks!
The 08 has plastic splash shields that need to taken of and on that complicates the installation from previous years. You'll need a good extention.
video
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It's a Valley hitch in the video - which is what my local vendor used on my HL. The Valley hitch, I think, is nicer in that the hitch goes above the exhaust; the Hidden Hitch/Draw Tite versions go under the exhaust.
The video shows re-installation of the passenger side "splash cover" - and if you choose to do so, you can trim down the driver's side splash cover and also re-install it.
I'll scout around Denver for any new HLs with a FIO/PIO/DIO hitch to see if it's raised into the bumper as a previous poster mentions, and if I see one, I'll get a pic of it.
Thanks.
Anyway, seeing it done eliminates a lot of questions on how to properly "do it yourself"
29+ mpg is V6 Camry numbers. Not driving a heavy rectangular block of steel. Impressive.