Volkswagen Jetta 2006+

jetta05 · October 2005

So the noise on start up is normal for the 2005 Jetta?

mazda6s · October 2005

Well, I haven't actually seen a 2.0t with AT yet either. The scales guys at my local VW dealer thought the MT on the 2.0t would be a 5speed, so I guess you never know with VW until the cars show up on the lot. Maybe they'll put the DSG in the 2.0t, we'll have to wait and see. The VW web site doesn't have the info yet.

lore · October 2005

So the noise on start up is normal for the 2005 Jetta?

Yes, the pump is turned on and pumps the oil at the bottom of the engine back to the top.

uwsherm · October 2005

David,

Could I ask which dealer helped you? Apparently VW hasn't released a TSB yet, and mine seems to think that the noise is competely normal. I could do the call around routine, but I'd rather prove them wrong, just on principle

.

Thanks!

jettaracer · October 2005

My new 2006 jetta does the loud start up when the engine is cold in the morning. Is it normal for the RPM's to be unusually high too? They hover just under the 20 line. After about 10 sec. it is back under the 10 line. Has anyone put premium gas in their new jetta's? Manual recommends it, so could the use of regular gas be causing the noise?

uwsherm · October 2005

David,

Yes, I was referring to the steering moan - sorry for being unclear there.

I'm in Seattle. Working with the dealerships around here can be "wheel-of-morons" at times, and the one that I usually deal with is considered the "good" one.

I may give Louie a call just to see if I can get some info about the supposed upcoming TSB.

Thanks again!

joevw · October 2005

Actually the 6 speed manual in the regular Jetta 2.0 is the same as the GLI. Its just you will NEVER find one. The 2.0 model is an upscale model that is suppose to be more luxury then sport.

mazda6s · October 2005

"Actually the 6 speed manual in the regular Jetta 2.0 is the same as the GLI. Its just you will NEVER find one. The 2.0 model is an upscale model that is suppose to be more luxury then sport."

Never say never. I have already driven a Jetta 2.0t 6 speed manual. The guys at the dealer were surprised when it was delivered, as they thought it should have the 5 speed.

dunvarna · October 2005

Just checking. Is the jetta a good car. We are looking at the Accord and the Camry. I drove the Jetta. I liked it. I liked the Camry. I just want to know if you owners are happy and satisfied. I keep hearing about road noise and the engine knocking, speakers rattling. etc. I like the car's look etc. especially the sport package with the spoiler and ground effects,. So is it a good car a great car or just an ok car. Thanks your input its appreciated. we are DFW so if you guys had a good experience with your dealer let us know whom to speak with at the dealership.
thanks

david55838 · October 2005

The noise is gone! Have your dealer call VW. There's a new transmission fluid formula that they are using. It seems the tranny gears are square cut and 'moan' under load (when you're making low speed turns). The new fluid lubes better I guess.

Good luck,
David

shaolingolfer · October 2005

Bret (internet Sale) at Boardwalk are pretty good, a straight shooter. I order my TDI through him and hopefully will be here soon. You should be able to get the 2.5 very close to invoice no problem.

hankmyster · October 2005

Have a question about fuel mileage. Purchased my 2005.5 Jetta TDI (Pkge 1&2 , 5 SPd) about a month ago (paid full sticker for a car for the first time!), Ive already put about 3500 miles on it , love the car. can anyone tell me why is my calculated MPG on every tank approximately 10 MPG less than trip computer calc? (try to fill up at the same station same pump same direction). Trip computer calculates 40-42 MPG mix driving I come up with 32-34. Also when stopped on an incline the engine rattles more than usual. The dealer said it is normal all they feeding me BS???? Thanks for any input
Hankmyster

ivan_99 · October 2005

It may sound obvious, but are you resetting the mpg comp every time?

hankmyster · October 2005

yes I do.

spiveygb · October 2005

"Actually the 6 speed manual in the regular Jetta 2.0 is the same as the GLI. Its just you will NEVER find one."

I found several and purchased a black 2.0T w/ no options last week.

mf15 · October 2005

Was looking at a dealer website 06 2.0T GLI with auto up over 30000 not sure what options are on it but that is getting very expenisve, up in A4 Quattro range.
What is VW thinking. Old Mike

allhorizon · October 2005

can anyone tell me why is my calculated MPG on every tank approximately 10 MPG less than trip computer calc?

There was an initial batch of US-destined cars that used Imperial miles per gallon as unit in the trip computer - a 20% difference. I am not kidding. I have contacted VW numerous times, because they are making the same mistake in a number of printed and online documents. They just don't get it, that "gallons" is not a standardized unit and varies from country to country. Obviously, any use of gallons in international trade requires the specification Imperial or US...

As to your mileage, it will likely still improve over time. 3500 is nothing for a Diesel engine.

richardson1 · October 2005

I am a woman who has always drove Fords and currently own a 2001 PT Cruiser. Now I want to purchase my final vehicle prior to my retirement and have been advised to acquire a Jetta TDI. I have no knowledge of the Jetta and need help about just about every issue. I have been reading awful reports on net from owners of the current and past models of this vehicle. Also I would like to know does anyone think it advisable to pay cash for this vehicle vs financing? Any and all advise would be helpful for me to end my confusion

mitchc · October 2005

The current Jetta TDI is an excellent car, and relatively reliable. The engine has a very good reputation in europe where it has been used for several years. On the other hand, the reported reliability on surveys does not approach that of a Honda or Toyota. I would not recommend that any retired person get anything but a honda or toyota. Folks living on a fixed income need to minimize their risk of getting a lemon. Nothing against the Jetta, I just bought one, but I would say the same thing if you were considering a ford, BMW or mitsubishi.

As far as financing, any investment specialist will tell you that buying a car is always a money losing endeavor. There is no revenue producing "equity" or "value" in cars. Financing your car is simply paying more money due to a lack of cash. I try to buy my cars "outright". I recommend you do the same if you can afford it. You'll certainly feel more comfortable doing so with a honda or toyota.

If you understand that buying a new car is similar to buying a Plasma Screen T.V. - i.e. a luxury that you use every day but don't truly need AND you're willing to put up with a little increased risk, for increased pleasure and MPG, the Jetta is a very fine automobile.

ivan_99 · October 2005

You did not mention how long you plan on keeping the automobile.

Is reliability and fuel consumption your main concern with a new automobile? I assume (and correct me if Im wrong) that youre not concerned with how much power, or handling you could get out of it, or whether its currently the trendy design etc.

How has your Ford and Chrysler been for reliability? Any reason youd like to move away from what youve had?

I personally do not subscribe to the Honda or Toyota being more reliable. Ive personally had more problems in a Honda than my other cars, or my co-workers Ford.

If I were to keep any new auto an extended amount of time I would invest in an extended warranty. For around $1200-$1800 (or so) you could buy some piece of mind. All cars come with power windows, cruise etc. these items can get very costly if even one goes out.

The Jetta comes with a Basic 4yr/50K mi where the Honda and Toyota come with a 3yr/36K mi warranty.

Diesel engines usually last longer then gasoline engines so you dont really need to worry about its durabilityits all the other small items that may come up (brakes, suspension, electrical etc).

If you know you would like to drive a new automobile every few years (benefits being its newer, newer safety, style etc) then you could lease it. You would then have a perpetual auto payment, but youd know that your car would always have a warranty and would always be new. Your monthly payment would be lower than regular financing, but it would never end.

Certain other cars such as BMW and Audi also include standard maintenance items. So when your car gets to 30,000 miles and you need to spend a few hundred on required maintenanceits all covered. You also gain the benefit of getting loaners when you take your car in for anything.

Yesterday I happen to be driving and noticed a black Jetta TDI, it was new and shinya very elegant and impressive looking automobile.

ivan_99 · October 2005

FYI -
If one is not bothered by intensive maintenance requirements" on the European cars you mentioned
...not my quote.

FYI Honda now has 5/60 for their power train and not the 3/36 you mentioned
I was quoting the basic bumper to bumper warranty.

fish8 · October 2005

It sounds as though you had a pretty bad experience with your Chrysler product. I guess I can't blame you for choosing never to own a "domestic" car. But, it does seem a bit odd to base your buying decision in 2005 on a bad experience you had over 20 years ago. I guess that's what one would call holding a grudge.

Did you know that Hyundai make several cars in the US of A? Example: Sonata is made in a new factory in Alabama. So, when you say "american made", one needs to be careful. Also, Honda makes many of their cars in the US. Meaning it is American made.

If someone wants a car strictly for reliability, then the Camry is a GREAT choice.

lighight · October 2005

I'm trying to help my mom find a great price on a Jetta TDI, too. Could you please give more details about Boardwalk? You don't mean Boardwalk Auto Center in Redwood City, CA - do you?

Thanks!

shaolingolfer · October 2005

I am reply to another poster in DFW (Dallas Ft Worth) area. Anyway, you cannot buy a new TDI in California because of Emission. You have to buy a used one with at least 7500 miles.

ckelly14 · October 2005

I was interested in the 2.0T Passat, but I was turned off by the lack of what I consider "standard" options which are not available until you go up to the VR6. For this reason, I started looking at the Jetta 2.0T with all the trimmin's. However, are they currently available? I looked at quite a few inventories, and the only thing I see is 2.5's and a few TDI's and GLI's.

birdboy · October 2005

please tell me , are these legitimate cahrges or are they just add on profit for the salesman. These charges were listed on the edmunds TMV or kbb pricing and in 2002 when i bought my passat they were not part of the sale..Thanks

pat · October 2005

Try the discussion at this link: Advertising Fees. Or if you want to talk about your Passat, here is the right place: Volkswagen Passat.

rcb2 · October 2005

Since I have never owned an automobile that had a turbo or diesel but want great gas mileage, I am considering a Jetta turbodiesel. I have heard some scary stories in the past about owing turbo's and hear that diesel's are tougher to work on and more expensive to own. Can someone put my fears to rest?

wmquan · October 2005

I'm curious, what are the power adjustments for the 12-way power seat? I know that 8-way seats usually have seat forward/back, up/down, seatback recline forward/back, and seat cushion tilt front/back.

Thanks in advance.

canadahat · November 2005

I have a 2005-1/2 (basically a 2006 jetta) Value Edition. It's black and I love it. I'm having difficulty finding some accessories for it though. I'd like to get one of those plastic bug/rock deflectors for the hood of the car to keep the paint chips from piling up. I've had it a month and already noticed two new chips. Here in New England when the highways are being salted for winter which will be here soon it's difficult to avoid the salt rocks from chipping your paint, I think it will help protect the finish on the hood. The problem is I can't find one. VW driver gear only offers a bra, which I'm not really interested in and other accessory websites don't seem to have anything available for 2005-1/2 or 2006. Any suggestions? Other options to consider? Thanks!!!

robr2 · November 2005

Try macneil.com or autoanything.com.

allhorizon · November 2005

This is what many people go with:

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/!ut/p/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLN4g3Mg4CSYG- Yxqb6kWhCjhgiRsZeGGKW7liU-SDEfD3yc1P1g1Lz4kOD9b31A_QLckOBIKLc0VFREQAkbHo5/delta/base64xml/- L0lJYVEvd05NQUFzQURzQUVBLzRJVUZDQSEhLzZfMF8yM0svZW5fVVM!

http://www.motortrend.com/features/care/112_0401_cc/

http://www.automotivearticles.com/Clear_Bra_3M.shtml

canadahat · November 2005

I've heard about that, it sounds expensive though and would need to be installed by a professional (I don't think I'd be able to do a good job) - remember I bought the value edition = I'm cheap. Do you know anyone who's actually bought this stuff and what does it look like? Is it truely invisible?

ask2 · November 2005

I have been in the market for a new car for quite a while now and have been researching all sorts of compact/sport and entry level luxury cars. My wife thinks that once I buy the car I will be in withdrawal from not having any research to do! Needless to say I have also been regularly reading posts on this site. I have never posted before but thought it was time because I wanted to know if others felt the same way about VW not providing the right packages to go with their cars (or if it is just me being too picky!).

The car magazines have been complementing the 06 Jetta GLI. I agree -- it is a great car with all the sportiness that I need. However, I would like to have the convenience features that you would typically expect when you pay close to 30K for a car. They offer NAV (which I like) but they don't offer power seats! Ofcourse, no power seats means no memory seating. Also, no homelink (not as important, but I don't know too many other cars that provide NAV and heated seats but then don't allow these additions!). What gives?

So you say, why not move on to the Jetta 2.0T. It has the same engine and it has a package 3 that adds the power seats and the homelink. First, it doesn't drive nearly as well as the GLI. Second, when you "upgrade" to this, you are entering luxury and apparently the only option for luxury cars is a wood trim on the interior! I don't understand why luxury is affiliated with wood as opposed to the aluminum trim that to me personally looks so much more appealing. Finally, they do not have the cool paddle shifters on the automatics like the GLI -- admittedly just a gadget factor, but cool nonetheless.

Well, why not try the Passat 2.0T? After all it has the same engine as well. Guess what, the Passat 2.0T actually comes with FEWER options than the Jetta 2.0T. There is only package 1 and 2 but no package 3 as in the Jetta 2.0T. Go figure!

Seems like the only way I can get everything I want is to move up yet another level to the Passat 3.6 with at least package 1 sport. At this point, I get it all (dual zone, paddle shifters, power seats with memory, homelink, heated seats, etc.). However, now we are talking a price tag in the mid 30's. Couple that with the fact that we have a completely newly designed car (inside and out) that is bound to have some problems in the first year, and you start having your doubts...

The question that comes up then is why limit myself to VW now that I have upped my spending limit to the mid-30's? Why not also look at the TL's and the Audi A4s? I have driven both of these and they provide me all the options that I want (admittedly, I am looking at the 2005 and 2005.5 models on both these cars to keep the price tag the same as the Passat). I haven't really taken the Passat 3.6 for a spin yet. Any suggestions?

Why could the GLI not support a package 3? Why has no magazine uttered a peep about it? Am I just being too picky?

ivan_99 · November 2005

Youre not to pickyI waited years for a VW mini van (a competitive one I mean) but nothing, so I had to move on.

Maybe an A3 2.0T? You get the Audi maintenance included.

A nice European Deliver system where you could pick and choose your options/features would do wonders for VW/Audi.

ask2 · November 2005

I would have considered the A3 2.0T except I am not too fond of the wagon styling. Other than that, it seems to have pretty much everything I need in addition to the 4 circles instead of the VW symbol

wai · November 2005

Have you try Lexus IS250 or IS350? They have all options you needed plus better handling and performance

zcar3 · November 2005

your post of your migration up to higher prices & models in search of what you want made me laugh out loud! i've followed a very similar path recently. unfortunately its not because its really "funny", but because you are dead on about VW offering very limited sets of options on their cars - i don't think you are being too picky by any stretch.

i'm looking at some of the same cars as you and am disappointed with the option list on the Passat 2.0. I own a 2000 A4 right now and love the torquey 1.8T engine (which is much improved for the 2.0T), and think that would be a great option in the Passat. but try to get it optioned out at all and you're out of luck (its even worse for me, as I must have a manual, and you can't get the only package they offer w/ out an auto.) the only reason i can think of for them to be doing this is to prevent 2.0 sales from taking sales away from the 3.6, which i assume has much higher profit margins. i have migrated in my search to the A3, which is a fun and versatile car. unfortunately, i have the same reservations about the hatchback design, which i really wish i could get past, because i love almost everything else about the car. its a blast to drive (the DSG almost had me thinking of getting an "auto". almost), the interior is nice, and functionality is high, and optioned with just the sports package is reasonable priced ($27,710)

scrumhalf · November 2005

Is there any way to turn off the auto lock feature of the doors?

I do not want the doors to lock when the car starts moving and I do not want the doors to re-lock if I don't open them.

2006 Jetta TDI Pkg 1.

scrumhalf · November 2005

Amen!

Want a Passat 2.0T stick? Can't get it in a Pkg 1 or Pkg 2.
Want auto air? Get a V6.

Want a DSG transmission? Get a Jetta TDI or GLI. Can't get it in a Passat.

jeffyscott · November 2005

Well everyone wants different things. The Jetta VE gave us everything we wanted plus a coupl "nice to have items".

Honda Accord is annoying to me, in that I would have to go up to LX SE to get 4 wheel disk brakes, power mirrors and height adjustable seat, which are the only things I'd really want to have over their "Value Package". This still would not get me stabilty control, which I would like to have.

ask2 · November 2005

Well, this is probably not the best place for this post but I am doing so anyway since I started here. I have moved past the Jetta due to the lack of features I mentioned previously. The debate is now between:

1) VW Passat 3.6 with Sport Package 1 + Nav
Was quoted a price of $33,400+T for this
2) Audi A4 2.0T quattro
With Premium, Sport, Audio, Lighting packages + Nav
Was quoted $34,500+T for this since it is a 2005.5 model (the last one on the lot so I need to decide fast)

Both the prices seem very reasonable. The passat drives really well and has all the features known to man! However this is a brand new model so I am slightly concerned. The Audi -- well, its an Audi! Any thoughts/recommendations???

pat · November 2005

Well, you were right on the button when you said this isn't the best place to ask. You should check out the Volkswagen Passat 2006+ and the Audi A4 discussions.

And if you'd like, feel free to set up a specific comparo between those two vehicles on our Sedans Comparisons board.

Those links should be good resources for you - since you've decided to drop the Jetta from your consideration, let's not divert this discussion from its topic.

ivan_99 · November 2005

I would expect the Audi to be a little cheaper, especially if they are trying to move a 2005.5.

Do you need Quattro?

Hard to resist the 3.6LPassat for me.

jeffyscott · November 2005

IIHS has just done side crash tests of minivans for the first time.

None of them did quite as well as the Jetta in this test:

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=80

If you click for the details on the side test, every one of them was rated "acceptable" in at least one sub-category, while the Jetta was rated "good" in all sub-categories. Note that side impact crash test ratings (unlike frontal tests) can be compared across all vehicle type and weight categories.

Similarly the Jetta was better than the only large car that has undergone this test (Ford 500), and better than the small SUVs that have been tested.

The only vehicles that have equaled the 2005.5+ Jetta in this test are also from the VW family: Passat and A3.

ray_pa · November 2005

Wow! How did they test them? Did they ram a minivan into a jetta or vice versa?

jeffyscott · November 2005

The IIHS test simulates a SUV/truck front end hitting the side of the vehicle...so it would be more like a minivan doing the hitting.

jessieb · November 2005

I was wanting to know if your jetta has a viberation after it warms up in drive or part and I read the noise (sounds like metal hitting metal) and running high rpms when cold is from low oct. gas is that right?

wmquan · November 2005

The Jetta did do great in the IIHS side-impact test. And that's without adding the optional rear side airbags that are available.

My only mild disappointment for the Jetta was that its IIHS front-impact test score weren't quite as stellar. It scored "Good" but did not get a "Best Pick" designation. The front test results are comparable across vehicles in similar weight classes, so bigger vehicles have a natural advantage. But I'm surprised the Jetta didn't get a higher score in the test, especially with its newer design.

The new Crash-Active head restraints have substantially improved whiplash protection in rear-end collisions. Still not a "Good" score but much better than before.

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_restraints/head_volkswagen.html

jeffyscott · November 2005

No vibration in our 2005.5.

I've read about a dozen different theories on the cold start up noise. In the owners manual (boooklet 3.1, page 94) VW explains the noise, not sure why folks don't want to accept their explanation :confuse: . They say it is noisy until oil pressure builds up in the hydraulic valve lifters.

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