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You may want to call just to double check, but you should be fine.
so I suggest if your burn the dealer for $1000 you find another dealer to do your service work....
Also if you refinance would you be getting used car rates at that point?
05 excape XLT 4WD V6 +POWER MOONROOF ,TRAILER TOWING,RETRACTABLE CARGO COVER ,
SAFETY CANOPY SIDE AIR CURTAIN
MSRP: 26525
x-plan price: 24848
then sbutract 3000 rebates (2000+ 1000 loyalty)
500 College rebate cannot be combined
No dealer fee, doc fee etc.
So final would be 21848+TX+TTL
Almost 5000 off MSRP
How's that sound?
Thanks a lot!
Checking their online inventory, with MSRP prices posted, this looks like a H*LL of a good deal.
SAFETY CANOPY SIDE AIR CURTAIN
MSRP: 26525
INVOICE: 24853
final price : $21543+TTL & TAX , $3000 rebates included (2000+ 1000 loyalty).
Actually, I also have $ 500 graduate program and $ 500 cash back coupon from ford brochures. But dealer said you can only choose one from loyalty, grad program and $ 500 brochure coupon to combine with $2000 customer rebate. Is that true? :confuse:
Thanks.
Becareful the finance person charge you 9.9%, 60 month by default and you have to argue to get a better one.
Overall I love the car but there are a few quirks I have to have addressed, mostly that both pedals seem to have excessive vibration. The accelerator seems to transmit a lot of engine vibration, and the brakes seem to vibrate under heavy breaking, almost like there's a warped rotor or something. Anyway, if they don't disappear during the break in period I'll take it in to see what they can find. Other than that, it's great!
Regarding your problems with the car, didn't you notice them during the test drive? Not trying to second guess you, but perhaps you should have picked a different Tribute at the dealer. (Mine does not have the problems you mentioned, but it does have road noise and wind noise.)
Problem with the pedal vibrations is they only happen under certain conditions and so I didn't notice them on the test drive. The brake problem, if it doesn't disappear after the standard break in period, should be easily repeatable for the dealer mechanics and covered under warranty so I'm not too worried about that. The accelerator pedal vibrations will I'm sure be harder to trace, but may in fact be standard on an SUV like the Tribute and I only notice it because I'm trading up from a really smooth Contour V6. After my first 1,000 mile road trip to North Carolina this weekend, both "problems" may be gone. Keeping my fingers crossed......
I used the fax attack strategy on 10 DC-area mazda dealers. Ended up with a good price from one dealer which I gave the salesman we'd seen for a test-drive at Fairfax mazda a chance to match, and he did. We had the price set and financing arranged (and had done the math to figure out how much higher the Mazda rate could go until the MAC cash didn't make sense) before re-entering the dealership. Made it very easy (although still about 2 hours long).
Noticed today that Ford announced they will match GM's employee price plan for everyone:
"Ford spokesman David Reuter said the "Ford family plan" -- which takes effect Wednesday and will also run through Aug. 1 -- would be similar to GM's and shave thousands of dollars off the sticker prices of most 2005 models. "
Does anyone know what this might equate to on an Escape Limited AWD (3.0 6cyl) ?. We'd be looking for the Luxury Package, Safety, Mach 6 6 CD, Moonroof, Full Spare, Edmunds Invoice comes out at $27,947.
Would this "family plan" pricing be lower than one could negotiate w/ various comparison quotes and available incentives?
Thanks,
Lou
Tribute S V6 Pkg 2
Added the DVD and Auto Tint Mirror w/ Compass & Temp.
They gave me 3,500 for my trade (Ford offered me 1,000!!!!)
4,000 rebate
Ended up financing around 19,000. They gave me the 7.99%, but, I too am going to re-fi after 3 months with my bank.
I looked at about 8 small SUVs before choosing this one. My search came down to the Mercury Mariner or the Tribute. Since they are basically the same vehicle, it then came down to price and warranty. Mazda offered me 2,500 more on my trade,
more in the rebate and a longer warranty, making this one a no brainer!
I bought from Jim Ellis Mazda in Marietta, GA. Great experience! They didn't have a Pebble Ash one on the lot, but found 2 at their other dealership and brought both over for me to look at. I chose the one with the cargo net, rear bumper step plate, and wheel locks. ( at no additional charge, of course!! )
North Carolina.
This w/e (July 9/10 2005) bought the following:
'05 Tribute FWD s, V6 auto, with pkg 2 (power driver seat/leather/CD changer etc) $19K even.
No trade-in, partly financed through Mazda (for at least 91 days!)
$3K Mazda + $1K finance rebates
~$700 under carsdirect.com target price.
Suspect I should of haggled a little more.....Oh well.
BTW - price of audio upgrade to sirius satelitte radio is a joke! (~$600 quoted)
to supply and fit an add-on box + aerial.
Will complain to Mazda & probably buy an XM Roady!
Stealth
Thanks,
JRock
Thanks,
Jason
I called a couple of dealers, and ended up in Wayne Mazda, via their internet sales team.
Discounts as follow
$350 markup over invoice due to NJ/NY advertisement fee (ie their invoice is higher than what edmunds say)
$500 discount below invoce (so net here we are at $150 below invoice)
$250 Internet coupon
$3000 Mazda customer cash
$1000 Mazda Financing
$500 Gerber
$500 ACOG (though I had to mail this in as I didn't have the add from the magazine at first)
MAC gave me $6.99 which I would refinance. We bought an MPV in the end of Feb. At the time, they gave me 6.39. Now here's the interesting bit - the MPV deal was at anothoer smaller dealer, which I dealt with the finance guy directly for the sale. At the time, he just PUNCHED IN 6.39. He said that's what he was just a 'request'. Of course if Mazda figures it out it's fine, they just give it to you like that - it's not going to be any lower'. In the case with Wayne, all of the paperwork is done 'in the background' so you can't haggle. He said 6 months to wait to refinance. Yeah right...
So when you buy, if they punch 8%, and you go for it, Mazda is happy for them and happy for the dealer...
In my case, there was no sence in NOT taking the $1K, since with our trade, the ammount to finance was just about $10K, so the rate would have to be completely out of wack to even think about iit...
My .02...
There's a magazine called Plum aimed at pregnant women over 35 that came out last september. It was only mailed to Ob/Gyns though. They put an add there for a $500 off, same as the Gerber deal.
It's supposed to be only one of them, but most dealers advertise both and would take both. But you need a copy of the mag. and the email with the certificate number.
I was able to get a copy of it but did not come in in time for my purchase. The dealer though gave me an extra rebate form and I mailed that in to Mazda HQs. I new the procedure since when I got my MPV a few months ago, I also got the Loyalty rebate 3 days after taking delivery (so had to mail it).
For the MPV I got 6.39 so it wasn't THAT BAD. But now I got 6.99 and that was HIGH. Also, I wanted to do it for 4 years, and they would give me the same rate !!!
I recently bought a Mercury Mariner and noticed the vibration when I step on the brakes driving on the highway. Like a warped rotor or something.
I only have 700 miles so far and have not taken it into the dealer, but feel I should do so very soon. I don't think it should vibrate like this.
For various reasons I settled on the 2005 Mazda Tribute S as my first choice. I initially leaned toward a 2005 Subaru Outback 2.5 (I’ve owned two Subarus, starting in 1976!) but drove a 2005 Ford Escape rental in July and liked it: not as “truck-like” as I feared and got 24 MPG on the highway. I prefer the Mazda interior plus the longer warranty and loaner cars for warranty repair. Also the current 2005 Tribute close-outs incentives appear higher than Ford’s and the 2006 model doesn’t seem to add any significant improvements.
The closest Mazda dealer to the tiny mountain town where I live – and where Outbacks are the dominate vehicle – is Wenatchee, WA, 100 miles away. Cascade Autocenter which sells Subaru, Mazda, Jeep and other brands, had a car in stock equipped almost exactly like I wanted. I emailed, said I was ready to buy and asked for an out-the-door price on a particular vehicle (referenced by VIN). I did the whole deal online with their excellent internet manager plus one phone call. Cascade Autocenter offered the best price, and were significantly lower than Seattle dealers proposed.
What I got: Mazda Tribute S with 1PK (Level 1 package: sunroof, stereo upgrade, etc.); AB2 (side airbags/side curtain airbags), FLA (floor mats).
Prices (including delivery charge) per Edmunds.com
MSRP: $27,295
Invoice: $25,405
What others are paying (?): $26,013
My price goal: $21,400 plus TTL
What I paid: $21,322 plus TTL
After agreeing to the price online I phoned to provide information to arrange Mazda financing (necessary to get additional $1,000 discount; will pay off 90% in first payment and rest over three months which will cost less interest than I would lose by cashing in a CD early to pay for this car) and scheduled a pickup date/time. When I arrived the car was parked in front and perfectly detailed. The internet manager demonstrated the car – locating jack, under-hood items, etc. – and we went for a 25 mile test drive with speed up to 80 mph on the highway plus twisty roads, over railroad tracks, etc., to check for vibrations, wheel alignment, etc. No problem.
Back at the dealership we went over the warranty and service schedule, signed the papers and I drove off. As far as I’m concerned it was a satisfactory transaction and I highly recommend Cascade Autocenter’s internet manager. Hope the car turns out as well as this transaction; I’ll report later on my driving experience.
Before going to pick up my Tribute I called the Wenatchee Les Schwab tire dealer to price a set of Toyo Open Road A/Ts (considered a good tire for conditions where I live and well-rated by several sources and consumer surveys). Les Schwab’s installed price was identical to internet dealers (after factoring in shipping and installation) plus they offer free 3,000 rotations, 30-day no questions exchange/refund, additional warranty services and have a dealer for service 9 miles from my house. I drove straight from the Mazda dealer to Les Schwab and got the Toyo’s put on. The sweet part is that Les Schwab gave me a $216 credit for the unwanted (by me) Continentals. Driving the 100 twisty highway miles home the tires seemed excellent. Life’s too short to waste time wearing out lousy OEM tires.
If you want the lowest price you need to know beforehand EXACTLY what you want and let the dealer know you’re ready buy NOW; don’t ask for three demo drives in the same car, wait for weeks to decide and then expect a great price. My philosophy is that if you find a fair salesman/dealer then treat them fairly as well.
Most so-called online salesmen I encountered were basically unresponsive and treated an online inquiry as a lead to be reeled into the dealership. Despite their manufacturer and dealership web sites inviting you to “request an online quote on this vehicle”, most of them won’t do it and will send back some line like “you need to come in so we can assess your needs properly.” I decided to just ignore them and move on to other dealer sites.
Except for the internet manager I purchased from (who provided detailed, specific answers to all my questions) everyone else, including Mercury’s so-called Online Concierge, simply ignored questions I asked re maintenance costs, the benefits of certain options, etc. My experience, and I’ve been both a business owner and salesman, is that most salespeople, online or otherwise, are too lazy to work for a sale with a customer who wants to know more than is in the brochure.
I found it incredibly useful to check (and even track over a couple or three weeks) the dealer’s actual online inventory. Not only could I tell if they had one equipped as I wanted – and even some large dealers didn’t; all of theirs were “loaded” – but I could gage by the size of inventory on a particular model and by tracking it over a couple of weeks how badly the dealer might want to get a particular car off their lot. One so-called internet sales manager – who refused to quote a price on a particular VIN - went on about how hard it would be to get the model I wanted while this jerk’s online inventory showed a large and growing inventory and the manufacturer is rebating them.
I got an excellent online quote on a Mercury Mariner BUT using the online inventory I leraned there are no remaining 2005 Mariners equipped as I like anywhere in the state. I would have to order a 2006 (also a very fair online price but still higher than a 2005 and I would have to wait six weeks and I wanted the new car for a month-long “safari” in September).
I hope everyone uses internet resources responsibly – i.e., if an internet dealer is treating you well don’t try to bust his chops – so that courteous, informed online buyers continue to make good transactions at the expense of salesmen and dealers who “don’t get it.”
On, no! I just realized that if I keep buying cars online I’ll never have a chance to get the free balloons and hot dogs some dealers still use to lure in suckers or visit another "tent sale"...
turtoni
PS - i paid 18K + TTL for a new 2005 Tribute 4WD i with cruise control.
2005 Mazda Tribute
List: 28,900
Automatic Discount 2000
Minus 3000 in rebates
Minus 1000 Mazda finance (must use for a minimum of 3 months)
Base total = 22900
Minus 600 manager reduction
Trade in had been valued by other dealers at 7 to 9k. They gave me 10000 sight unseen for a trade in. Tax savings of about 700 for the trade in.
Total = 11600 +tax+tag transfer+title
Tribute has package 3 w/leather, V6, automatic, side air bags, wind delflectors, Moonroof with wind deflector, Side Step tubes, Heated seats and mirrors, Wheel Locks, nicer rims then the other tributes on the lot, rear bumper plate, cargo net, and me in the driver seat.
Will refinance after 3rd payment to mazda to drop the interest rate and save montly.
Dealer tells me he lost money on the deal - but I can't imagine that to be true. Even if he did - the car is a year old and now he can place a 2006 on his lot.
Thoughts on this deal?
8 hours???? if you walked into my dealership and offered me your numbers the deal would have been done in 10 minutes. That includes 5 minutes looking for a pen.
You did fine....but 8 hours??
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resales....thanks for the small letters and as long as you are satisfied with your new Mazda...that is all that really matters. the deal is done...so be happy, the Mazda Tribute, with the 4yr., 50,000 mile warranty is a very good decision.