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The bottom line is "money talks", and Toyota will need to be sensitive to the prices of the competition.
i'm not an avalon owner yet. i've been thinking of buying one for christmas.
my opinion was that they quoted you too much.the Preferred Accessory Package is nothing but the carpet mats. most of the times the dealers provide you for free of cost for any car (even if you dont negotiate or a little ). with out the Preferred Accessory Package the edmunds invoice comes around $33,000. start negotiating from there. i would say anthing between $34000-$34500 is a very good deal for a limited( since limited's are the hottest selling ones) .anything worth above is not worth the money for a toyota.
with the money they quoted you for $36750, add a couple of more thousands dollars, you might get a Lexus RX330 SUV.
they are couple of posts on this forum, where they paid $500 - $1500 over invoce.
one more suggestion, as 2006 models will be arriving soon, you can even get a good deal on 2005's.
please dont forget to post the final price that you paid here on ths board.
Thank you for your comments. I thought that since several of the options on this car are options I would not have chosen (like the accessory package and remote engine start), I would offer 35,000. I would like to just say no to this and ask him to find me an avalon with satellite radio and without the remote engine start, accessory package and laser cruise control, but I am concerned that I will have difficulty finding what I want.
Do you know when the 2006 models come out? This 2005 just came out in May.
Thanks.
the new avalon came out in febraury itself, i guess 2006's will be coming out in a couple of more months.
i checked out my local car dealers avalons here in the night time, when no one is around. i've noticed one common thing between two dealers. the avalon limited's they have in stock (on the lot) came in two flavours.
1. loaded with Navigation System, Dynamic Laser Cruise Control ,Vehicle Stability Control
2. just the basic limited --- no options
none of the limited cars which i've seen have satellite radio in them.
i dont understand what edmunds mean by Remote Start(it is supposed to meant as remote having engine start/stop button, which i dont think avalon has it).
if they mean it as Smart Key system, it comes as a standard option on limited's.
check out toyota's website, it doesnt say anywhere avalon has satellite radio & remote start in them. find out more from the dealer.
every one says that it's easier to negotaite with the cars that they have in lot rather then speical order it.
loaded with Navigation System, Dynamic Laser Cruise Control ,Vehicle Stability Control the invoice comes around $33000. do you really want to pay $2000 OVER INVOICE??
The remote engine start allows you to start the vehicle without entering it - to warm it up in the winter for example.It is an option while the smart key is standard. The avalon does have the start/stop button and satellite radio.
It does sound as if I would be better off to negotiate on the car on the lot.
Thanks.
No laser cruise.
List $38,000 : two dealer in central MA refused $35k and one said ,"you want a deal, buy an Acura". Outrageous that one dealer's arrogance.
Called another and sales Rep accepted offer over phone and I had in writing faxed the same day. Tried document fee, etc. but finally agreed to $34,850, (plus tax/title) last day in May and took one month for me to get vehicle. Arrived last week and I picked up Tuesday.
Will give rating in another week or two once more miles under belt.
in size and demensions, also just uses the same old engine that was in the Tuarus
in its last year. Standard big three tactic, that if it doesn't sell repackage and change the name.
You didn't get the XLS out the door for $30K with VSC, did you? What options, if any did you get on your car?
Regards,
Deanie
Paid $34,050 (does not include taxes or title/doc. fee) for a 2005 Limited with the following options:
NV Navigation System
VD (Stability Control)
CL Dynamic Laser Cruise Control
V4 Remote Start
CF Floor Mats
Ordered the car in mid May and received delivery this week from a dealer in the Boston, MA area. Waited a little longer but I believe the car is worth the wait!
Just ordered the backup sensor from www.awellmarket.com. Hoping to get within the next 2 weeks.
Hope this helps....
He can get a very good price on the Ford 500. Contrary to an earlier post, the 500 is not comparable in size to the Camry. In fact, it is bigger than the Avalon in virtually every respect: 3.5" longer, 1.7" wider, 3" higher. The wheelbase is nearly 2 inches longer, and it weighs 171 pounds move than an Avalon. The biggest difference in comparing sizes is the trunk. The 500 trunk is a full 50% larger than that of the Avalon.
I've been very happy with my Limited. No problems at all. 30.8 mpg on a road trip.
My friend who's looking for a new car lives in Minneapolis.
I'm happy with the deal and should get the car next week sometime. :shades:
Remind your friend that it's a Ford. If that's not enough, then perhaps he's not too knowledgeable about auto quality/reliability/resale value.
Beyond that, there's the anemic engine & weak acceleration, poorer fuel economy, garbage resale value and the fact that it won't be as nice a driving experience (no refined engine sounds, no quality "feel" that is typical of better Japanese designed cars. The deep discounts offered by domestics save money up front, but that also hurts resale value down the line - the quality, reliabilty problems down the line will likely put the nail in the coffin on any cost advantage had up front.
Regards,
Deanie
I live in Pittsburgh (western PA); when I do the TMV calculation, it works out to essentially the sticker price. Don't really see how that can be used to help me negotiate a good deal - I sure won't be letting the dealer see my Edmunds printout!!
Does anybody understand the reason for this TMV vs. deal-price discrepancy? This vehicle was newly redesigned this year, and made its entry in the spring, I believe. Does it just take awhile for the sales data to roll in so that Edmunds can update TMV? Is there a way to get the real, up-to-date TMV? Surely the average price being paid is not sticker - which would be an easy $3000 above the deals I'm reading about here.
If the moderator sees this, your insight would be most appreciated.
Thanks.
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I also heard that the JBL radio is satellite compatible, and that any store that sells satellite radio equipment can hook it up and install the antenna. If this is true are there other antenna options out there??
2) Consumer Reports, purchase a new car price report for $12
Report has all trim lines & lists all option costs
The report isn't perfect, but it's close
I went to my dealer with both, the buying program & the report: XLS- jbl, mats, wheel locks & mud guards - $28,078 + ttl!
I didn't have a great dealership experience though. The Bridgestones are NOISY :lemon: and the dealer blew me off when I asked to swap them out for the Michelins. I have opened a case number with Toyota Customer Relations in CA. Buying a Toyota is about as fun as having a colonoscopy... :sick:
They seem to be sticking close to MSRP here + frt + SE paint package + $399 dealer fee puts it close to (31,300 + 700 +400) = 32,400 - so you got a great deal at 28,300
Let us know hoe it's done
Thanks
N.
Would it be easy for me to get the car for out the door $27000?
Re $27,000 for an XL - I think you are paying too much. Unless tyhis is a very loaded XL with an MSRP of around $30K. My opinion is that you can get about $3,500 off the MSRP of an XL if you shop around.
Thank you for the respond.
I live in UT and the best offer I could get was $1500 off MSRP.
So I think I will look around more before I get ripped off.
Thanks!
So now our beautiful car is home, we saved over $4500.oo and have Edmunds to thank! If you are looking for a deal on these cars, search these forums, get your invoice pricing for the exact features you want and make some calls....I had found similar deals like mine and Kirkendolls in New York (I think it was Lee's Toyota) and Elizabeth City Toyota as posted by other forum readers....Hope this helps.
Laura
I thought of sharing my experiences with other surfers so that buyers can benefit. (as I sailed the same boat looking for information before I purchased).
This is my 4th car in 4 yrs. Like to change. Switched from honda to toyota after test driving avalon. Classic car for a great price. Only problem is feels quite heavy to go from stop. and also there is a lag between pushing the pedal and car taking off. VEry noticeable. Just bought it today, need to use more to comment on it.
Pricing:
I started looking for avalon prices at CT, US for 2 days. Called around 12 dealers in and around state and even NY. Some of the dealers clearly ripped me off with prices over MSRP, and some around MSRP. Rarely close to invoice. My suggestions to potential buyers (as a matter of fact for any car):
1. Call different dealers for quote. Personal visit might be necessary for some. THis is the main homework.
2. Surf net for prices that was paid in forums and other stuff.
3. Finally once you get the lowest quote, call them back to see if they can lower it down and also call the next highest bidder to reduce. One of them should work.
4. Always try for "volume dealers" they will offer cheaper than others.
Remember to negotiate more and more as long as the dealer is willing to. NEver show your desparation or your plans/budgets. Once again, it is us who has to decide to call it quits for negotiation at some point, so as to close the deal. Too much negotiation might also spoil the lowest quote. That experience comes as soon as one gets a collective idea on pricing and what others paid.
My prices are for touring with option 1 package (speaker, anti-theft etc) was 28,000. This is base invoice price plus option's cost.
Similar deal i got for XLS, but it was too much for my budget.
mark
was the $28000 the out the door price including all tax and fees?
That price was exclusive of taxes and fees. I had to make a downpayment to setup the lease. But only this dealer was lowest one i got. All other quotes were atleast 1500$ above this for the same packages and leasing payments were 100$ more than his quote and more importantly they failed to budge.
mark
Thank you for all the information.
My budget is $27000 out the door so I think I'll have to get an XL.
I hope you enjoy your Touring!
I wish I could of gotton the Touring....
Hope this helps!
I think if you wait for a month or so, you will have better chances of getting touring at that price. as Toyota is going to release 06 models pretty soon (hope i am correct-maybe double check on that). if that is the case, you can make the deal for 05 model.
worth all the money to drive that car. So luxurious and comfortable. I can't believe I was driving pilot (like a tractor) all these years. Ofcourse one cannot compare SUV with a car for smoother riding etc. just saying it is better. pilot is great in other aspects too.
good luck.
drb
Thank you for the great advice.
If that is the case, I would totally wait until the 06 models and get a great deal on the 05 Touring. I dont really care if its a 05 or a 06 if its brand new. Hopefully the 06 will come out around mid September because that is when I want the car.
Thank you .
jkosuge
Toyota of Roswell (GA)
$32.500 out the door plus TN tax when I register it my home state of TN
good to deal with
It was the best price I could find for a Limited with NAV -- short supply, big demand
Anyone do better?
Lee Davis
you got a very good deal. good job!!!
how hard was it to negotiate for that price? did you happened to deal with the internet people or the sales person.