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I live in Princeton, NJ and have been shopping for a 2005 Avalon Limited with NAV, VSC and Laser Cruise control. The best deal I got so far is from Lawrence Toyota --- 1500 over invoice plus tax and fees. Does anybody know where I can get a 500 over invoice offer? Any dealer within the 100~200 miles radius is acceptable to me. BTW, does anyone know how the Costco Auto program work in New Jersey?
thanks a lot
Thanks for your help! :shades:
Sometimes Edmunds is not up to date on manufacturer price increases so the two numbers may vary. Also, and I'm sure you won't find it in this case, sometimes the window sticker are actually less due to old inventory being on dealers lots after factory increases.
20% Titanium Pearl
20% Blizzard Pearl
18% Black
11% Phantom Gray Pearl
9% Blue Mirage Metallic
8% Silver Pine Mica
7% Desert Sand Mica
4% Cassis Pearl
3% Indigo Ink Pearl
BTW: Several people have posted about the Costco Auto program, and while it seems to be a "no haggle" way to buy a car, I personally think you can do better if you do your homework.
Hope this helps.
Laura
KC
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Mackabee
I am silent viewer of this forum for last couple of weeks ,this forum helped me a lot while negotiating. Would like some advise from experts . The best deal I got so far in chicago area for 2006 avalon with navigation is 34600 +tax + registration -( 1300 over invoice as per dealer ) . Does it sound good deal?
dont even care about the dealers invoice, they will rip you off as much as they can from you.
go with the edmunds invoice price . according to edmunds quote avalon(ltd)+nav+dest = $31,679.
you do the math.
I just got a quote from an Internet salesman for a 2005 Touring. He quoted me at invoice price. $28163 (with anti-theft,moonroof, 6-disc CD changer, carpet/trunk mats, glass break sensor, wheel lock, auto-dimming mirror) + tax/lic. I think this is a good deal, but not sure. I live in Sacramento, CA.
thanks,
j daniel
but this is the CHEAPEST online quote I have received and he wont seem to budge at all...the other quotes I received online were MSRP....and they're getting that price in Jacksonville, FL
j daniel
This is what he told me.
"sale price is $27,134 + tax ($1806.62) + lic. fees ($433)= $29,373.62
everything included." The options included was CD changer and sunroof and anti theft syste.He said that this price he gave me was $500 invoice....But I do not believe him.Does anyone know if he is lying?
SOB
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Ken
Any idea what will be good price for 2006 XLS with Navigation , VSC , floor mat
Does anyone know invoice price for 2006 XLS?
the invoice price for 2006 limited is $32,922 with all the nav,VSC & dynamic cruise control .
edmunds.com, started posting the prices for 2006 avalons. check out them.
i would say if you are a conservative thinker, $500 above invoice for a XLS is good price and $1000 above invoice for a limited is a very good price.
so try to knock off atleast $500 from the price that he quoted for you.
The sales rep I dealt with told me that when the car arrived at the dealership, people were looking at the color with curiosity. One of his colleagues had said that, although he never would have considered ordering a green demo car, now that he has seen the SPM color, he planned to make it his next choice.
Another plus - women like the color. And if a woman likes the color of your car, then.....
and misc dealer charges of M.A.F.; T.D.A.; Base-Veh-HB; PIO HB; and finally, Finance Reserve.
Would like knowledgeable parties explain what these latter charges are individually and indicate which may be negotiable items. Thanks
SOB
Apparently it looks like Toyota charges dealer advertising cost ( TAC) on which also incorporated in invoice price in chicago area, hence the edmunds price and dealer invoice prices are off by few hundred dollars that is what I have been told. Is there any idea how much this will be?
i think the advertising costs should not be more than $500. i have seen this in other forums.
when honda odeyssey minivans are selling closing to edmunds invoice price, why not Toyota avalons???
have you tried to negotiate more??
then how come the Big 3 are selling at invoce price ?
read the posts of honda, subaru, lexus, acura in this forum. you will get to know how much are people paying for these cars.
r u telling us that the car dealers are going broke by selling cars at invoice price.and the sales people are not making money by selling the car at invoice price.
i agree with you this is a new model, what about acura RL, subaru B9X, honda odeyssey, and the hottest selling SUV RX 330
It seems that in certain parts of the country, people are getting better deals, but in this area, this did not seem to be a bad deal. In this case, I was not too consumed with the whole "over invoice" thing. This is a hot car, at a hot time, and market conditions the realities of supply/demand are in effect. I also think this car is really a good value relative to other cars of its size & performance (e.g. Lexus). I guess I could have waited months or even a year to get a good "over invoice" price, but I wanted the damn thing! The only other car I was tempted by was the Chrysler 300, which I could have gotten at a really great price "over invoice", but that is the discount DC must give to compensate for the "quality" deficit. In the end, my intrigue with look of that car faded. Now when I pass them on the road, I am glad I'm in my Avalon!
My biggest compaint was the EMBARRASSING XM installation by Southeast Toyota Distributors. These jokers put that big black antenna on the middle right edge of the trunk lid. Even my dealer seemed embarrassed over this and offered to relocate it. I ended up doing it myself, moving to the inside of the car right atop the rear interior brake light (right under the rear window). I painted it light gray to match the interior so it is very discreet. How is that I am more creative than the idiots at SET and I don't even do this for a living? In the process of relocating the antenna, I also discovered that the XM unit was very loosely bolted onto the bracket in the trunk. It would have eventually wobbled loose had I not secured it.
Minor notice of the transmission issue, but after 1100 miles, I have had a hard time getting overly concerned about it. Will continue to monitor it.
All in all a very happy camper so far.
I know for a fact after talking to several dealer friends of mine that the Odyssey, RL and 330 are not going for invoice. Not sure about the B9X. Most salespeople that sell a vehicle at invoice get a flat commission. Maybe $100 or a little more if it's an aged unit with a bonus on it. Now if they sell 20 of these a month they make a whopping $2K. Gonna bring home the bacon with that now aren't we????? There may be 3-4 people in a very large dealership selling 20+ units a month. Depends on how large the sales staff is. Large volume dealers will not go broke selling vehicles at invoice. I'm talking about dealers that sell 400+ units a month. Small dealers may very well go broke trying this. If they don't have the volume they'll never make it. There are not may mega Toyota or Honda dealers out there. I would hazard a guess to say that most of them move less than 200 units a month.
To make a long story short, I wouldn't go into a grocery store and ask to pay "cost" for an item. Try that at Best Buy or Wally World. I wouldn't be surprised someday see all manufacturers go to the "no haggle" pricing such as Saturn. Try getting a discount off of sticker on one of those!! On second thought I wouldn't look at those.
JMHO. I'll feel better after picking up my car in the am.
M.A.F. $422
T.D.A. $290
Base Veh HB $621
PIO HB $12
Finance Reserve $310
Thank you kindly, SOB
Congrats on the purchase of your '06 Silver Pine Mica Limited. You should have had it for a couple hours by now. I know you want to drive it some, but PLEASE PLEASE post some photos as soon as possible. There are several of us waiting for this same vehicle and we would luv to see some actual photos! Seems like there are some others who are very curious about the color also... I know they would appreciate it too! Thanks in advance,
Mike
If you have any more comments on Silver Pine, please let me know. I'm mostly interested if it is a flat or metallic finish. I'd also like to know if it is light enough such that it will hide dirt like a light silver or gold color does. Any other comments or links to your photos appreciated!
Just picked my 2006 Silver Pine Limited up about two hours ago. Here's some pictures for you.
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Transmission is different from my Honda for sure. Will take a little getting used to but I'm sure I will. Because of the untold number of positions you can put these seats in, it took me about an hour of driving to finally find the right position by just continuously playing around will it. 70 miles from the dealership home. Averaged 27.8 with mixed driving. Everything from full out acceleration to cruise control at 70. The only real negative I've found so far is the passenger seat rattles every once in awhile when I hit a bump. Haven't looked at it yet for possible reason. Minor detail. I'm glad the uncomfortable seat that has been posted on this board is just what I thought it would be, personal preference. If the seat was inherently bad I'm sure some reviewer would have noticed it by now. My seat is perfect now that I've finally played with it and got it just right. No loose fog lights, no uneven tail pipes, no radio cover out of alignment. I'm a happy camper.
Was back at the dealership today, one week later and saw that they now have only 2006 Avalons. Seven days ago they had only 2005 ones.
Jim
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Yup, and this is the reason that better pricing isn't available. If people have money, or great credit, they are willing to pay the price...... Retailers aren't stupid. They will try for retail or more, and if people are willing to pay it they smile all the way to the bank. Guess what happens when consumers just say 'screw you' and walk away? Prices come down in a hurry. I guess things are too good today as you can see this in any new hot item. Too often, people pay a premium to be first, and then they get to debug the product, as evidenced in the 05 Avalon forum.
I looked at a car one time that had service sheets that were stacked up over an inch high. The service manager said it would qualify for repurchase under the Lemon law. It took an hour to read about all the problems.
So, I bought the car. Why? The previous owner didn't like the car and nit picked it to death. My reasoning was that he had the car all 'dialed in' for me. We did not have one problem with that car - and it was made by American Motors.
There is nothing wrong for 'paying the price' if you choose, but I guess I'm the one that waits for people who do this to get disgruntled and trade them off due to things that irritated them, or an incompetent service department, and then let that work to my advantage for a really low cost of ownership. To each his own, eh?
T.D.A. $290
Base Veh HB $621
PIO HB $12
Finance Reserve $310
Geez, looks like all the add-ons to my phone bill. This kind of thing is a good reason to walk away from a dealer. That just tells me the dealer is trying to pad the deal.
the MSRP from EDMUNDS.COM and the MSRP on the car window should be almost the same. the car window might edge up a little bit, because toyota adds in the dealer advertising costs.it shouldn't be more than $500.
Sales experience was first rate except the salesman-in-training knew next to nothing about the car. Between new model and new salesman, I guess that's OK.
Business manager and general manager were great to deal with but, of course, I'm a regular so that helps.
Test drove the TL, ES330, Passat and Maxima SE. Liked them all but the value seemed best on the Avalon. Also, I think Nissan made the interior of the Maxima look cheap even though I love the 03 SE I bought for my college bound son in June.
Will give first impressions in the '05 forum.
From what I can tell, the only thing it doesn't have is a spoiler, but I'll have to check the window sticker to verify that. Retail: $37,649. Out the door price: $31,490 and NO add on fees. That's a discount of $6,159. Has anyone topped that?
My 03 may be history.
All of them are bonafide items and required by law to be
itemized on the invoice presented to the dealer by
Toyota. Don't think any one would neg any of them on an Avalon, only
ones that would have any play would be the holdbacks(HB). Any invoice you look at would have the same lines on them, dealers in the same TDA woul dhave the same amounts but if they where in diffrent TDA's the amount of TDA could be diffrent.
My understanding is that the dealership got this from Toyota for a demo around April/May. It is Toyota owned as opposed to dealer owned, and they just got the word from Toyota that the miles indicated that they sell it. Just announced this AM at their meeting. We looked at a couple of weeks ago. It was the only AV they had and they couldn't sell it yet. It may have been better if it was a Toyota Exec car as I expect the drive train has been 'exercised' in this one, but probably has less cosmetic flaws than an exec. You're right about it not lasting long. I think that's as good a deal as I'll find. However patience will give me better, maybe next year, but likely with more miles. There is another pretty much base LTD for sale for $29+k and 2k miles, but it is Burgundy with a damaged drivers seat back. Anyone out there trade this in on a Lexus in Texas? Also a base XL w/150 miles in the low 20's.