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whats this ttd stuff?
I'm looking at an 08 X premium myself that has auto, the weather package and such. the one thing I would question is the cargo tray. I see that as a needless money waster and I could possibly convince the dealer to keep that item. its an extra 75$ that I could use for gas, you know?
Whats this premium with no options you speak of? The one I'm looking at has the weather package, which I think is part of the prem trim itself.. Not sure though.
-Frank
-Frank
We just saw a brand new one minues the Premium package sell for about the same price.
In 2 years you would expect a little more depreciation, but Subies do really hold their value.
If it's that close, though, I'd just buy new.
I'm telling you, get a last day of the month deal. This is what I did...
Got GAP and oil change program included
The protection thing
Originally, they took my freestyle for 7500, but by the end of it, they took it for over 9000$, cutting the price from about 24k to over 16k and gave me a 6.9% apr total payments is about 25k.
I actually stood up and just about walked out the door at one point.
I pay 350$ a month for 72 months.
Salesman was impressed with me.
All in all, I just hope the economy holds out another 2 years...
My curiosity is killing me. Just checking to see who got the better deal here, me or the dealer.
Premium Package (power moonroof, 6 CD changer, heated seats & exterior mirrors) + cargo net, custom tailpipe cover & all weather floor mats.
Final Price Paid: $21,142.38.
If I did the Edmonds TMV pricing report right with the above options:
MSRP = $24,804
Invoice = $23,156
I did get $3,500 for a trade in...but in hindsight, I should have brought that into the mix at the end and not at the beginning...probably could've gotten a better deal if I threw it on at the end.
Any thoughts?
Do you really want to know? From the info you provided and assuming you're not including TTL in your price paid, it sounds like the dealer fared better
According to Edmunds' TMV, 08 Foresters are going for right at invoice so... subtracting $3,500 for the trade should have brought you in under $20k. Instead it looks like the dealer subtracted the $3,500 from the MSRP.
Hope I'm wrong but regardless, you still got a great vehicle for a very reasonable price!
-Frank
P.S. You're absolutely correct about when to bring up the subject of a trade. Always lock in the final price of the new car before beginning to negotiate the value of a trade. Meanwhile, since it's to the dealer's advantage, the sales person will do his or her level best to combine the two deals into one. Your best bet when asked is to say you don't have a trade and then introduce it after you've locked in the sales price of the new car.
It also has tail pipe covers and dimming mirror/compass
Based on the Consumer Reports price guide, I my initial offer should be 21,500, but this seems low compared to the Edmunds 22,579. Both prices are without the $500 rebate because we're going to finance.
MSRP is 24,154
Any thoughts/ideas? Thanks!
Regardless, Edmunds TMV is currently about $500 over invoice (not counting the rebate) so that's what I would be shooting for. It's quite possible you can do better but also possible that you won't be able to get the dealer that low (there are too many variables for anyone here to accurately predict what the final selling price will be.).
Good luck and let us know how you fare
-Frank
As of right now we're at a standstill. We started negotiating at 22,000 and the dealer countered with 23,000. We went back with 22,600, and they countered again with 22,850. At this point I think we're going to wait-- we want to try to get them down a bit more from their initial offer of 23,000 (since they've only come down 150). Maybe they'll be more motivated as the end of the year draws near.
a. Where in the monthly sales cycle you fall
b. Has the sales person/dealer already made their quota
b. How many other Foresters they have on the lot
c. Whether or not the dealer thinks you're a serious buyer
I could go on but you get the idea.
Here's a thought for you though: at the end of the day, is a difference of $250 really a deal breaker? Naturally every buyer wants to get the best possible price but we're only talking about 1% of the sales price
-Frank
If they call you, the ball's in your court.
And if you can wait till the 09's are coming I bet they do everything they can to dump the old model body types... That is only about four months away...
Bought one at $21408+tax+reg. fee+doc. fee a month ago. The car has 2 options on it: auto dimmer mirror & premium group 1B.
So I drove down the highway to Toyota, and bought myself the most gorgeous
Rav4, 6 cylinder 4WD you've ever seen. Of course I paid a lot more, but I am happy about the purchase. Now to put my 1998 for sale on Craig's List...... geeta
You should have contacted a few more Subaru dealers. $21,500 doesn't sound completely unreasonable. Anyways, enjoy your RAV4. What color and trim did you get?
It's strikes me as a little ironic that you ended up paying lots more for a RAV4 but then I assume you felt that you were getting a "better deal" from the Toyota dealer :confuse:
Regardless, the RAV4 is an excellent vehicle and feeling good about such a big purchase is very important. Enjoy your new ride
-Frank
You should drive by to show them your new ride. Next time maybe they'll try harder.
i got a price quote for an '07 Forester XT, for $22,400 before all taxes. Seems like a decent deal, given MSRP is around $26-27k. I did not hear about 0% financing, is this only in certain areas?
Is this a decent price for an '07? There aren't too many changes from 07 to 08, so I'm thinking this is an ok starting point. I am hoping to get this for $20k before taxes, but not sure if that is reasonable. Any feedback?
thanks in advance
The only concern of mine would be the 09s are about to come out, so yours will seem 2 years old in a couple of months. That might hurt resale.
Shouldn't matter with that low price.
Here's the rates for 2007 Subies, CAN be combined with 2007 Forester rebate:
credit score...24mo...36mo...48mo...60mo...72mo
700+...............1.9......2.9......3.9......4.9......5.9
699-660...........4.9......5.9......6.9......6.9......6.9
659-620...........5.9......6.9......6.9......6.9......7.9
619-................9.9......9.9......9.9......9.9......10.9
Good luck shopping! Your find is pretty rare. I don't think there are many new '07 XTs left around... Fitzmall has over 60, but no '07s, and my dealer (Carter in Seattle) has over 100 Foresters in stock, but no '07s!
Subaru currently offers alternative promotions for Forester buyers - choose (1) "cash back" plus APR incentive or (2) "customer cash" - what's the difference? The "cash back" and "customer cash" amounts offered are the same. Is one for people who finance w/the dealer and one for those who don't or what? If the former, why not just say "cash back" on all sales, plus APR incentive for those who finance w/dealer, rather than using two terms to describe identical cash offers? I don't get it.
I'm considering trading my 2005 Turbo Baja for a new Forester (will wait '09 models are released to see what deals are offered on '08s, plus I might like the '09s more, even though I'll pay more), but I don't understand the terminology used in the SOA promotions.
http://www.subaru.com/tools/financialsolutions/special_offers_results.jsp
What differs is factory-to-dealer incentives.
Here in MD, that's actually better than cash back. The dealer can lower the price, so as a customer you don't pay sales tax on the rebate amount. If you get cash back in MD, you do pay tax.
That's an extra $50 in MD for every $1000 worth of rebates.
Before the increase, the 5% tax was assessed on the new vehicle purchase price, but now the tax is assessed, at 6%, on the difference between the sale price and the trade. So, if you bought a $20K car on 1/1/08 and had a $12K trade, you'd have paid 5% tax on $20K - i.e., $1000. If you waited two days and bought a $20K car with a $12K trade, you'd pay 6% tax on $8K, i.e., $480 - so you'd pay $520 less if you waited to buy. MD dealers publicized the taxes based on the assumption of no trade (i.e., "buy now before the 20% tax increase goes into effect!") to get people into their showrooms, even though many (most?) people trade a vehicle -- they didn't mention the potential tax benefit of waiting. Cash buyers and anyone having a trade worth less than 16.67% (1/6) of the purchase price would have been better off by buying before the increase (all other figures being equal) - everyone else would be have been worse off buying earlier.
I'm not thrilled the sales tax rate went up (still, it is the first increase since 1977, so I'm not surprised), but the change on the assessment method does remove one of the reasons I had considered keeping my car longer (i.e., not getting any credit for the tax I'd already paid on 2005 the purchase for the Baja). I'd still be smart (finances-wises) to keep the Baja for a few more years -- it's a great vehicle in general, except I'm tired of raising the heavy cover over the bed. Of course, even if I decide to trade the Baja, I've still got to make up my mind on what to get - a Forester or an Outback. Decisions, decisions!
-Frank
-Oregon resident.