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I informed them that I paid for the car in full and should be able to pick it up when I want it. They informed me that unless I came by that specific day at a specific time they would not give me the car because they will not have a salesperson to help me. They want their sales people to concentrate as much time on selling the car and spend as little time as possible actually getting the car to the customer.
When I came back to get the car, the sales person handed me the keys and said "all you need to know is in the instruction manual" and then asked me if there is anything I needed to now. I asked him about filling the car with gas and he said "oh yea, make sure that the cap clicks when you close it".
That was it!!!! I will never buy from them again! :mad:
http://www.bkcars.com/
fastLayne: did you close the deal?
If anyone is looking for a price reference, go to fitzmall.com. They have no-haggle pricing and if you can beat them, you're golden, IMHO.
VIP is 2% under invoice, IIRC. Seems like dealers are dealing, so you may not have to go through the trouble.
We used VIP back in May to order one, but supply was still very short back then.
Thanks!
Also, you can look at the least and most expensive for one particular model, to get a real-world price range.
Anyone buy one recently, where, how was your experience and what should I look to pay? I was estimating $28,500.
Any thoughts?
I was wondering if anyone had any experience about purchasing a certified preowned 2009 Forester Premium from a dealer that had previously been used as a loaner car when customers dropped off their cars for repair. It has low miles and is certified so it has an extended powertrain warranty of 6 years, 100K miles. My concern is that it had several drivers who might not be concerned about the long term condition of the car.
Approximately how much less should I expect to pay for this car versus a comparably equipped new 09 Forester?
I'd appreciate any insight.
Thanks
SO.... I'm not sure what we should expect to pay...but we are in Central Texas and want the following.....
2009 Forester X Premium - Auto - Popular Equipment Group 1 A-B (cargo tray, splash guards, rear bumper cover). We also want rear cargo cover, rubber floor mats and ipod interface.
The way I figure it....all this should invoice out right at or near... $22,477 + $695 destination = $23,172
Does this sound correct? Will the dealer let us order this exact configuration in the color we want? Should we expect to be able to negotiate to this price or should we plan on paying closer to $24,000? And....if we order...how long should we expect to wait? Of course TT&L is gonna add on too. I wonder if the Costco price will indeed come in at invoice. If so...that seems pretty reasonable.
I have one more question...I want my wife to have the best night visibility possible. I'm most concerned about lighting up country roads at night to illuminate deer. I'm thinking the fog lights may or may not be appropriate for this purpose. Are they? If so...I could add them on too....but they are invoiced at $291. I'm a bit uneasy with the idea of trying to use aftermarket fog lamps because the fit and finish might not be as nice.
On a separate note...I think we will upgrade the stereo after purchase...probably keep the base stereo...add an amp and new speakers..maybe a sub....not sure...but think this is probably the best route. Throwing this info out in case someone wants to tell me it's a mistake to wait!
I'm sorry if this post is a bit long and lazy. Buying the Forester has come on fast. We are down one vehicle and have family coming for the holidays and want to make this happen. Any recommendations for price or any other tips are welcome.
Finally, anyone care to warn us about some of the little add-ons that the dealer might try to slip in to increase their bottome line? (I can tell you that we already have financing in place and are not trading in a vehicle.) This will be a straight price negotiation. I just don't want to miss anything or sign off on any "fees" that are unnecessary. Title fees, courier fees, etc. etc...are they all legit?
If you got this far you're a trooper....I've asked a bundle of questions! Your help will truly be appreciated. Thanks!
Also, be sure to check the date of purchase with your insurance company, Subaru, etc. I found they put down on some paper work that I nevr saw, that they sent to the state, that I bought the car 2 weeks before I even saw it. This could affect your length of warranty (if something happens in that 2 week period), insurance cost for the year, etc, if you don't rectify it.
Subaru corrected the date after I sent them copies of my sales receipt.
I only just found out the insurance company has overcharged me due to this same error, even though I told them the date it was delivered when I requested the insurance. So I have to ask them for more money back.
The DMV would have had the same issue, except the dates were within the same month, so it didn't affect what I had to actually pay, (my fees were significantly more than the $50 mentioned here), You pay for the full month no matter what day you register it on, in my county that is.
Re: fog lights They are, if designed correctly not too bright as a really bright light just reflect off all the water vapor in the air. Think about what happens when you turn on your high beams in the fog.
The lights on the Forester are a bit short (especially the low beams) so you are right to be concerned. Will you be using the high beams when looking for deer?
Premium + AWP
Auto Dim Mirror
Puddle Lights
All weather mats
Popular package 1A
Price seemed reasonable at $22,451, well below the invoice price of$23,609 (and MSRP of 25,492). Doc ($150), and plate transfer ($80) were standard for Chicago area. Taxes (7.25%) brought the total to $24,504.
Just put a deposit down on this in No. Calif:
X Limited w/ no nav
Dim Mirror w/ Compass, Luggage Cover, Splash Guard Kit
PZEV
$25760 base price ($700 off of TMV, $200 over invoice)
.00175 MF
$676 drive away (DMW and first payment)
$16500 residual
36 mo/ 12,000 mi.
$377/mo payments with tax
Pretty happy with this deal. would love some feedback!
White Exterior/ Grey Interior
Auto dimming mirror with compass
Splash guards
Rear luggage cover
Wheel locks
Vertical cargo net
Trailer hitch
Subwoofer
Ipod tray
Rear bumper cover
All Weather mats
$27,699 out the door that is about $600 under invoice :P
Don't fall for that.
Not as bad as a rental, then again maybe it is.
I would expect to pay at least 10% less than a new one, maybe even 20%.
Thing is, you can get a deal on a new one, so I wouldn't bother with the loaner.
MSRP: 25309
Sell Price: 22809
Lease is $286 per month including CA tax with $1291 due at signing (includes first month + lease acq fees + DMV fees)
Residual is 62% and MF is 0.00175 for 36/12 terms
Seems like a decent deal. Comments?
A little off-topic but the 2.5X does feel quite sluggish to me. I wonder how it will handle in the mountains (Lake Tahoe in my case) during the ski season...
I appreciate all the information that has been posted as I've been searching for my new Foerster.
I just got the following quote from Galles & Davis Subaru in Albuquerque, New Mexico:
Forester 2.5XT Limited with NAV, Spark Silver with black leather and:
All Weather Mats
Spoiler (I've seen this listed as stock but is also a separate accessory online)
Security Shock Sensor
Autodim/compass mirror with homelink
Cargo tray
Side cargo net
Round cross bar kit
Seat back cargo net
Splash guard kit
iPOD phone console tray
Moonroof Air Deflector
$28,388 with all accessories installed
3% New Mexico tax: $851.64
Registration and docs: $352.36
OTD: $29,592.94
I believe the MSRP for this deal is: $31,445
I think the invoice is $29,432
And they are working with me on the registration as I am really a dual resident of Arizona and New Mexico. I have a business/house in Arizona and property in New Mexico. Arizona State tax is almost 8% and registration here would be about $600 per year. New Mexico is 3% and registration is a flat $60. I think they are probably making a few hundred dollars, which is fine.
What do you guys think? I am looking at doing this today. I may try to get them to give me Bluetooth at invoice. I think on top of their profit, they also make a commission from Subaru, correct?
2009 Forester 2.5X Limited in Black
MSRP 27453
Selling for 24500
Lease for 36/12, Residual 60%, MF 0.00175
Monthly payment of $319 including CA taxes, $1153 due at signing
Looks ok to me. Will probably get this tomorrow.
This is a great price! Seriously, once you get down to the negotiation, any price that you are happy with paying is a great price!
Congrats on your new Subaru! I hope you really enjoy it!
4-speed auto trans. w/sportshift $1000.
all weather package $400.
protection group $662.
delivery $695.
MSRP 25452.
purchase price 23278.
tax 1629.46
tire fee 7.50
nj reg 250.
doc fee 189.
total price 25353.96
Probably could have done better but I thought this was the best I could do at the time. This purchase was in October in Lakewood N.J..
Hello everyone, just wanted to pass along the deal I finally got on my 2009 Subaru Forester 2.5 XT Limited / Automatic at Heuberger Motors in Colorado Springs. I priced this car all over the Southwest and dealt with some pretty nasty stealerships. Some of the worst attitudes came from Premier Motorcars of Santa Fe and Galles & Davis in Albuquerque. Premiere refused to give me a precise quote and then demanded that I commit within the hour! Galles & Davis try to sell me a different car than the one I wanted and then claimed I was wasting their time!
Heuberger was definitely the cheapest dealer in the Southwest, and they claim to sell more Subaru's than anyone in the country. Hence, they can offer serious volume pricing. They had to get the car from another dealer to get it in black. The car they found came with some accessories, detailed below. I had them add other accessories after the fact. Overall, they were friendly and professional.
I researched all the accessory and extended service prices and Heuberger was a little high on some of the accessories but their extended working price was well below MSRP.
I’m planning on registering in New Mexico where I own property. Registration is a flat $60 there and tax is only 3%! So, Heuberger is not going to charge me any tax at the time of sale. They were not negotiable on the $389 dealer fees, that is basically their profit margin.
2009 Subaru Forester 2.5 XT Limited/Automatic - Obsidian Black Pearl
With included accessories:
Rear Bumper Cover
Cargo Tray
Luggage Compartment Cover
Splash Guard Kit
IPod Console Tray
IPod Interface
Automatic Dimmer Mirror/Compass w/Homelink
MSRP: $29,825.00
Invoice: $27,664
Sale Price: $26,378.00
Additional Options I had them add:
All Weather Mats: $47.96
(2) Side Cargo Net: $39.92
Moonroof Air Deflector $67.96 (installed free)
Cross Bar Kit: $239.96 (installed free)
Snap /Clamps: $16.00
Seat Back cargo net: $22.36
Security Syst Shock Sensor: $79.96 + $99 labor
Front tint: $80
7yr / 100k Gold Plus Extended Service w/ $0 deductible: $2056
Total Additional Options Cost: $2,650.12
MSRP: $3537
Invoice: $2472
Price with included accessories: $26,378.00
Dealer Fees: $389
Total Additional Options Cost: $2,650.12
OTD: $29,327.12
Total MSRP: $33,362 (educated estimate)
Total Savings off MSRP:$4034
Total invoice: $29,836 (educated estimate)
Total OTD Savings off Invoice: $509
I was able to put $4000 on a credit card for miles. Going to pick it up in early February when they have the title back so I can drive straight to Mexico and register. After buying used for 15 years, this is my first new car. Overall, my experience negotiating with dealers was a bit excruciating compared with buying a used car. Still, I'm excited about my first new car.
I have spent the last few weeks e-shopping for the best deal on a 2009 Subaru Forester. Bill Rapp Subaru in Syracuse, NY originally gave me the following price quote:
2009 Subaru Forester 2.5x Premium PZEV
Automatic transmission
All Weather Package
Fog Lights
3 year lease with 15k miles per year
with $1000 total down
Selling Price $23,535
Monthly Payment $323.10
Residual is 60% for a total $15,098.40
After driving out to meet with them we settled on decreasing the monthly payment to $319 for 35 months, as the $1000 included first payment and fees. Also, was able to have the following included:
All Weather Floor Mats
Vertical Cargo Net
Cargo Tray
Splash Guard
Rear Bumper Cover
Aero Cross Bars
I picked up my Dark Gray Metallic/Aurora Platinum Cloth this morning and loved the 65 mile drive home in the snow/ice/slush !!!
I am very excited about my first Subaru and the deal I made! THANKS to everyone's posts about their prices and driving experiences!!
Popluar Equipment 7A
Carrier Base
Cargo Net Seat Back
Cargo Tray
Rear Bumper Cover
Splash Guard Kit
MSRP: $22,488.00
Invoice: $21,086.00
36 months/ 10k a year
362/month including tax.
Upfront is
Bank Fee
Docs
Registration
Tags
First Month
Do you think this deal is good or I can do better elsewhere.
Anyone have any dealer suggestions for the NE.
Thanks
The last few days were sub-30 degrees (16 as I'm posting), and my heated seats in my WRX (and Forester S) more than paid for themselves in terms of the comfort they afforded. I'd never buy another car without that feature.
Bob
Do you mind telling me which dealer you ended up getting this vehicle from?
Thanks
Steve
on dealer websites, i see a lot of msrp at $26,860. and they dont see to have an added options.
anyone know what the $170 difference is for?
oh i figured it out - its 200 pzez - 30 differential on the destination change
I am interested in doing a factory order for a base Forrester Turbo X.
Please let me know what type of discount I should expect from a factory order on the following configuration?
MSRP: $27,200.00 Invoice: $25,500.00
The dealers in the Boise area are not offering the type of discounts that I am seeing in this forum?
The best offer that I have recieved is invoice with a $50.00 doc fee.
With appreciation and kind regards,
They offer fantastic pricing but after adding $600.00 for shipping and their new doc fee it does not make as much sense for me.
You purchased your 09 Turbo for about $1000.00 less than my lowest offer but once again if I add the above fees it becomes closer to a wash.
I have also heard mixed feedback about the shipping experience with Hueberger but I do wish their dealership was closer to me.
I believe that Subaru was offering a rebate a couple of months ago on the Forrester.
Should I wait for future incentives. My thinking is that the Forrester is in greater demand now because of the snow.
As I remain with appreciation and kind regards,
Brandon
24565.44 + TTL
The price, 24565.44, seems like 1023 below invoice...
The price includes auto dim mirror w/compass and homelink, luggage cover, and splash guard kit.
Is it good deal? Thanks
invoice (with certain options): $25500
dealer offer: $25300
out-of-door (dealer offer + ttl + tax) : ~ $27300
How is this offer? Is $200 lower than the invoice good enough?
When I buy a car from Ohio (which is very close), they first title it in my name in Ohio (as a non-resident, so no tax), then take the Ohio title to KY, to title it and pay tax.. But, it is still noted as a new car...
NJ may be different...
Another possible explanation (but not likely on an '09 Forester), is that a dealer will mark a car as "sold" to collect an expiring incentive from the manufacturer. Probably not the case here, though..
A call to FitzMall would probably answer the question, definitively..
regards,
kyfdx
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She thinks she knows what she wants possibly a demo 2.5xt limited w/ +/- 3500 miles (non nav) or a base line model. Here is my question how much would the sale price of the demo run and how much off the sticker price be of the base line model. Im not real familar with the invoice pricing on this niche type vehicle. Any help would be greatly apprepricated.
BTW we are located in Ocean County NJ
Thanks in advance.
MSRP: $26,890 (pzev!)
Dealer's Quoted Invoice: $25,261 (base dealer invoice: $24,566 according to cars101.com)
Internet price: $24,221 ($1,040 under invoice...previous offer was $300 under invoice...so this would technically be $345 under "base" dealer cost?)
Homelink mirror, wheel arch mouldings, rear bumper guard, cargo cover (I didn't want the puddle lights because they could break if I bottom out): $1,058 including labor to install at dealership...
Purchase price: $25,279
TTL in Pennsylvania: $1,730
$27,009.
Now the next question is financing rates. $500 down, $9,509 when they get the car...financing the other $17,000.
Did we get a good deal? We opted to get one from another dealership rather than add the options to the dealer demo with 1300 miles (which they refused to discount)...the car will probably have a few hundred miles on it when it arrives.
I have a feeling in the summer, when gas goes back up, it will be really hard to sell these cars...but waiting wasn't in the cards.
Let me know if that looks like a good deal!