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-juice
1) 2005 Legacys and Outbacks that were slightly used by the factory as demos. They have around 3k miles. Not sure of the warranty.
2) 2006 Legacys and Outbacks that were scratched or otherwise slightly physically damaged due to wind. These all have less than 10 miles and come with full factory warranty.
I am interested in one of these and wondering if anybody has any experience with a vehicle like these. I will be seeing them over the weekend and hoping to get somebody else's opinions (both optimists and pessimists welcome). Thanks in advance.
The wind-damaged cars are just that, wind damage on the paint voids that part of the warranty only, otherwise they're new. You'll want to have a close look at whatever you buy. These cars were purchased at auction so the dealer may have saved as much as $3,000+ on the vehicle. I've seen cars from these auctions that had little or no noticeable damage.
-juice
Forester X manual $17,999
Legacy 2.5SE SDN manual $19,600
Outback 2.5 manual $21,500
The first dealer I visited (closests to my home)wanted to sell me an '06 Legacy with 5000 miles for $500 off sticker. What a joke! I drove down to Becker and took delivery the same day.
Excellent dealer to do business with. If calling or emailing, reference the Ad in the Morning Call.
PS: If going with the 5 speed, I STRONGLY suggest the Momo short throw shifter availble through the dealer. It gives the car a much better, more sporty driving feel. It make shifting fun, rhather than a chore with the OEM gear shift.
About those 2005 Outbacks, it is true that there are a bunch of 2005 Outbacks out there that were previously Hertz Rentals (& possibly other rental agencies.) I found this out by telephone calls.
I'm sure it makes a difference that it would most likely involve a dealer trade, but how much of a difference should I figure? And how do I figure the "cost" of the options when it is a dealer trade (i.e. is invoice still really invoice here)?
Finally, I know that the true...i.e. post-rebate...base invoice is $25,9ish, and with the options on most of the stock around here $26,6ish... but are there incentives to the dealer that might be cutting into the cost even more (yes, I know about holdback, but beyond that)?
I think my first number would be $27... curious to know if you think I should legitimately be able to do better.
$1300 tax
$95 transfer fee
$299 conveyance fee (I don't think so!)
I too have noticed a lot of special offers on wind damaged and special direct factory vehicles in NY with attractive prices. Makes me want to head for the border.
Ballpark price sounds right, though, what tranny is that?
-juice
-juice
Anyone have a heads-up on what's happening to the rebates in June?
Join the Subaru Crew threads, and our chat on Thursday nights.
-juice
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I got a quote for a '06 Legacy GT AWD LTD Sedan 5MT @ $25K with destination charge included but before taxes. Is it a good deal? It has like 70 miles on it, but I usually like to get cars with < 20 on the odo. Please give your feedbacks.
Thanks!
Remember, also that you can't ever sell this car. Any buyer that runs a carfax report won't touch this with a ten foot pole. If it was written off as a total loss, I'm skeptical about the claim of light damage. A lot can be hidden by a thorough detail job. With a funky title, even without the funky smell, it could be trouble.
I would make sure you can get it financed and that you can get full coverage insurance for it.
TMV on a certified, no stories '05 is 21K. TMV in "rough" condition, which means problems but clean title is 16,700. If you decide to take this on, I would want a much steeper discount for your hassle.
You might see if your insurance agent could help you estimate what its worth. An insurance company probably has more experience dealing with cars of this kind than anyone else.
I've been reading your messages for a few months now - and have found them a huge help. Here are my figures now:
Cash Price of Car: 24495
Trade In: 3500
Tax: 1417.17
Title & Fees: 15
Total Due: 22427.17
Rebate: 2000
Final Amount: 20427.17
This car is the Legacy 2.5i Limited Sedan + the all-weather floor mats and auto-dimming rear-view mirror with homelink.
I also got the 0.0% for 24 months, but instead opted for the 4.9% for up to 72 months (I took it at 60 months though).
Hope this helps you all. I love this car.
A friend is considering a 2.5i auto sedan in Vancouver, BC.
Too bad invoice info is hard to come by in Canada.
Thanks!
If you're shooting for $20k, I'd say go for the Special Edition instead. No leather, but it comes with plenty of goodies and a bigger $2000 rebate. We just purchased an Atlantic Blue Pearl Legacy SE sedan for $18,900 (about $3500 below invoice) from Carter Subaru in Seattle. Comes with AC, power everything, CD, moonroof, power driver's seat, etc. We added subwoofer/amp and all-weather mats.
Happy hunting and good luck!
Also, due to NAFTA, there's no duty to pay on vehicles built in the US or Mexico. Legacy, Outback and Tribeca are all built in the U.S.
http://www.cars101.com/canada.html
Warranty is a big concern though. From the website, it indicates that all warranty services must be done by dealer in the US...
I still remember the exchange rate was ~0.6 only 4 years ago... and now it is >0.9. People were importing cars from Canada back then. The tide has changed.
My wife and I used to vacation in B.C. because it was a good deal. Now it's slightly more expensive than travelling in the States, I think, but we like it so much we still travel there regularly.
MSRP C$30394
Wholesale C$27757
Negotiated price C$29357
All these numbers include C$1495 freight and PDI as well as C$100 A/C excise tax.
Can probably get another C$200 lower but it is hard to negotiate price in Canada.
I know, you can easily get this car for $20k in the US but warranty and trade in makes this option unfavorable.
Also the SE package costs C$699 in Canada but only $300 in the US.
Got very good price on the trade-in though.
Extra accessories:
- Rear Spoiler
- Auto Dim mirror with homelink and compass
- Armrest extension - off black
MSRP: $26,732
Price paid: $21,798 + TTL
dealer document fees - $79
Got the 2.9% APR for 36 months.
I think this is a pretty decent deal for such a wonderful car. I hope this will last for a loooong time without too many problems.
Check out the "Subaru Crew Cafe - Meet the Members II" forum, where Subaru owners can introduce themselves to each other.
This is a Subaru pricing discussion... If you want to discuss the Passat, you can try here:
Volkswagen Passat: Prices Paid & Buying Experience
Or, here:
Volkswagen Passat 2006+
Thanks!,
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Happy hunting!
It didn't take much work getting the salesman down to invoice, so I was starting to think that I could still get a better deal out there.
The dealer still makes a few hundred on the holdback from the manufacturer, so they're not going broke, just not making much profit. They'll make it up in volume and in the service dept., hopefully. I do want the dealers that have earned my business to make money, so that they'll be around to buy from again in the future! If I find an honest dealership that gives good customer service and pricing, I'll stick with 'em as long as they continue to do so and as long as they're selling a quality product.