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Dual-pane moonroof... *drool*.
Overall, buying at G&D was very nice: the price was arranged beforehand by email (after an Edmunds price inquiry), the car was reserved for us and stayed on the lot till we came for it a week later. We test-drove it, filled some documents, and we left with the car without paying a single penny (well, we'll have to pay >20k, but that doesn't start till Sept) -- all in under an hour.
Premier motors in SF were also quite good -- in fact, when we test-drove an Outback for the first time a month ago, they let us take it for a light off-roading during the test-drive. However, eventually the lower price at ABQ, as well as their no-nonsense approach won (the SF dealer first wanted 100 above invoice and dropped to 900 below invoice only seeing that I have other offers, while the ABQ one just gave me a take-it-or-leave-it price of 1250 below).
$1,400 below invoice, before $1,500 incentive. Final price before TTL is $22,815. Invoice + destination is $25,715 (according to Edmunds).
I simply sent email (via Subaru site) to all dealers within 50 miles who got Limited wagons. If they replied with a price (and not all of them did) I would reply back stating my target price.
One dealer was late in answering my email, but came up with even better price - around $1,500 below , before incentive.
But I already bought the car. Oh, well.
Jerry, I think you paid the same amount under invoice that I did when I bought my Special Edition sedan a month ago. The Special Edition trim ads even more value to the dollars spent, I think. These are great cars. Average new vehicle sales price is somewhere around $27k, last I read. Paying around $20 grand for a car of this quality (and with the top safety ratings) almost feels like stealing.
But I do notice the huge difference between different dealers. The highest internet quote I received was about $2000 higher than the lowest one. So do shop around, and never give up! BTW, I am in Ohio.
Options: Splash Guards and all Cargo nets (4) in the rear trunk area.
Total out the door cost was $21,500 including tax and tags.
Breakdown:
MSRP: $24973 (Note: cargo nets were thrown in at no cost, did not reflect in the sales price).
Discount: $2876.24
Less: $2000 rebate
Selling price: $20096.24
Taxes: $1109.76
Dealer Fee: $99
Reg/title: $20
MD tire recycle fee: $4
MVA fees - TTL - 128+ Title 23 + lien 20: $171
Total: 21500.00
Excellent salesman, very courteous and professional. No pressure/gimmicks. Even let me do a full test drive yesterday. Customary full tank of gas provided. Bought at Herb Gordon Subaru in Silver Spring (Briggs Chaney Rd auto park).
I took advantage of the 'free money' (0% for 24 months, no processing fees here) for part of the purchase price. Why not?
Service dept. let me pick up the auto dimming mirror/compass + homelink kit for $175 delivered outside the deal.
Congrats!
If you figure it out, let me know. I may try to integrate mine when I get a new car.
-juice
IIHS.org gave it a GOLD rating.
EPA rates city 23 and highway 30.
EPA passenger vol. 93 cu ft.
Are most Legacy's selling around invoice? Has anyone seen an SE with no options? Even at invoice I would be pushing my budget.
Was thinking of considering the VW Jetta Value Edition or Honda Civic EX. Should I consider anything else?
Civic is a solid choice, but demand is so high some people are paying MSRP. $19,810 at Browns Honda, locally. That's actually more than a Legacy SE locally from fitzmall.com, which runs $19,557 (both automatics).
That's crazy. The Civic is a better value below $18k.
The Legacy gives you AWD and 17" alloys, plus a moonroof.
This is what I call a no-brainer.
-juice
There should be plenty of SEs with minimal options. I think most will have at least one or two options, but there will be some that have very inexpensive options.
I think both the Jetta and Civic are overpriced, and wouldn't look at the Jetta because of reliability history. Civic is a good car, but won't be nearly as upscale or fun to drive as Legacy, and it's hard to get a good deal on one.
I mention this because most dealers carry Outbacks and Wagons, sedans are sometimes a bit harder to find.
Jim
Seems there are plenty in Jersey, though. White and Atlantic Blue exterior aren't too popular. More of those. Just a few Black and a little more Silver. I already own a 2006 Toyota RAV4 with Silver exterior so I think I'd rather have the Black.
Many of the MSRPs are listed as $23,840. Anyone know what the options might be? I could get this one under $20k, right?
Negotiate the total cost and get the paperwork in order over the phone before driving down.
Also keep in mind 0% for 24 months + 2000 rebate has been extended till Sept 5 on 2006s.
-juice
$23,840 MSRP is about $500 over base SE MSRP, so I'll guess security system upgrade, autodimming mirror w/compass, splashguards and all-weather rubber floormats (which are in addition to the standard carpeted mats), which add up to $512 retail price and are all commonly installed options. Invoice for those options is about $330, FYI. You can find '06 Legacy options and their MSRP and invoice here:
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/legacy/legacy2006.html#options
-juice
-juice
I have an offer of $26,999 on a 06 Legacy GT Limited Sedan (used, five-speed) with about 4300 miles on the car. Is this a good price? I thought this was quite high since NEW Legacy GT sedan is going at $25,750. I was thinking about offering $23,000.
Am I crazy or can I pick up this car for $23,000? This is through a local Subaru dealership.
Any comments would be appreciated.
If you've gotta spend $23,000 go with the used. If you're financing, consider going new instead. That's my 2¢.
Value should drop 10% as soon as you drive it off the lot, so look for a 15% or so drop compared to a new one with those miles.
-juice
was this a sedan or wagon as the invoice looks lower than expected? i'm looking for the '07 2.5i wagon, but was wondering if the '06 might be a better deal.
thanks,
invoice 30561
pdi 1495
total 32156 +GST
thanks,
First of all, these forums are great! Never realized just what a wealth of great information there is here...
Okay, to cut to the chase, I'm interested in purchasing a 2005 Legacy GT Sedan, manual transmission. Those are my requirements...not interested in the wagon or an automatic trans (or the "automanual" trans). Is it me or is there a scarcity of these vehciles on the market? I'm finding a heck of a time even finding these cars for sale.
Can someone recommend a resource or two in the Mid-Atlantic area that I might check out to get the best deal on this car?
I've been checking AutoTrader, Cars.Com, legacygt.com, eBay, CraigsList... There is a local Honda dealer in Edison, NJ who has one for $18,995.. 21k miles. This appears to be an okay deal compared with other dealers, but honestly out of all the colors this is the one that I really dislike.
Also, is there a "rule of thumb" regarding how much a dealer will come down from the initial asking price for these cars? i.e., if I did pursue the car above, any ideas how much the dealer could come off? I have nothing to trade (unless the dealer wants a 1995 Dodge Intrepid .
But much appreciated if someone could provide some tips on good dealers/resources to find this car at a good price in the Mid-Atlantic region (NJ in particular).
Thank you very much.
Regards,
- Dave
I think part of the problem is that 2006 didn't have many dramatic changes that would've encouraged '05 owners to trade in.
So I actually looked at one today that was nice.. 23k miles, regal blue. The guy was asking $17,900 but he wasn't moving off that price at all. Not one bit. So I walked...
I thought he might chase me out the door, but nope... I may need to give him a call tomorrow, although honestly I'm not sure how to approach. We'll see...
- Dave
If they won't budge on the sale price of $17.9, and this is at a Subaru dealer, maybe you could get them to throw in a free 30k service, or something similar that doesn't cost them nearly as much to give to you as it would for you to pay for.
Actually it's not a Subaru dealership...it is a dealer though. The only negative I see about the car is that it doesn't have a spoiler (and it's hard to call that a negative, more like a personal preference). A friend had a spoiler put on his Impreza WRX (2005) by a local Subaru dealer for $300 I believe... so that's not horrible.
I'm really starting to think I should go in there again. Any suggestions on what my next offer should be? I readily admit I'm not too experienced in purchasing cars from a dealer.
Thanks for the help...
- Dave