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I'm not really interested in the Base Model, I'm more interested in the negociations that took place between Wantrx and the salesperson, because from my research, he /she got a Really good deal !
Are you saying the msrp + destination was "29500" ? What was the invoice price (with or without the options) ?
What did you pay for the remote + mirror etc ?
Can you give me some insight on HOW you got your sale price +- 5000 $ less the msrp ?
Thanks.
Does that help?
Thanks again!
MSRP 25,660, paid $22925 after the $1000 Rebate.
It's about $200 below Invoice, and $2700 below MSRP.
Basic 2.5i Automatic with a few convenience options (Auto Dim lights and Rubber Floor mat, etc).
I made my homework, read a LOT of posts on different forums, and I'm wondering what would be a good deal before answering to my dealer (long distance negociations) ?
The invoice price for an 2.5 i LLBean + VDC+ Automatic would be around 25 788 $ (ca pricing) including destination.
At this point, he's offering me 24 999 $ (after the factory rebate of 1 000 $).
Thanks for your help !
I am looking for the same car. Please update how everything goes. Thanks.
Could you please break your sale price for me ?
Invoice - rebate + options ...
From the price sheet I have in hand, the invoice price for a 2.5 i manual would have been either 22 833 (fed pricing) or 23 040 (ca pricing) ?
Did they give you all the options for free (all weather mats, mirror,compass w/homelink, rear cargo net, arm rest extension) ??
Thanks!
I just purchased a 2008 outback 2.5i Ltd w/VDC for $400 over this particular dealer's invoice, before rebate (-$1000), doc fee (+$249), and TTL (+$$$). The price was basically exactly TMV/cars.com target. Oh well. I just don't buy cars often enough to get good at this.
What are the rules about dealer invoices anyway? What is to prevent them from inflating the invoice from the distributor?
For those who just bought a 2008 Subaru, can you give me some info about your own experience in the negociation process that would help me getting a good deal .
I should answer back to my dealer to get things moving(long distance negociation)...
Thanks for your help !
Your price may be very good in fact...I don't believe there are ANY rules about invoice Cdertain models you're lucky to get within thousands of the invoice... VDC models are much more in demand than 2.5i manuals I'd guess hence less rebate, and rooom to bargain...Even if you slightly overpaid, In say 7 years or so of driving what's the cost? 5-10 bucks a month?-..Years ago when I bought my Forester 140,000 miles and still great, no way could I get ANY dealer within 700 of the invoice...In demand and extremely limited supply here (edited for poor typing and spelling LOL)
I haven't purchase my car yet, it will either be a 2.5i, 2.5i LLbean + vdc or 2.5i ltd + vdc...
I'm waiting for a quote on the ltd, I was afraid to give my own price to the dealer before having made my mind on the car (and done my homework on this forum!).
I got some quotes from some dealers but I haven't tried to let them beat the best quote I go. Do you simply write them and give them the quote you got and asked them if they can beat it ?
Thanks for your help!
You were writting about other rebates "...You can find rebates to you/dealer and holdbacks on this site...there are other manufacturers incentives like sales incentives that are harder to find..." Can you be more precise ?
The only rebates I found are the factory rebate and whatever the dealer wants to give you from his holdback...
By the way, even though the "1000 $" rebate period has expired, will it come back in August ? Isn't there always a factory rebate ??
Thanks !
This is a site has a good overview of what are the model numbers mean:
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/outback/outback2008.html
Hope this helps. Depending on where you are in the country you should get a much better deal than I got. Let us know how it turns out.
This is in the seattle washington area. I'm hoping to buy my car today expecting 700 below invoice
As for now, I received 2 quotes from 2 different dealers and their quotes are higher than yours after rebates and before taxes,fees, etc: 25 822 and 25 795 !
I wonder what I'll say/write to get their quotes lower... Any suggestions ??
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Specs: 2008 Subaru Outback:
2.5I Limited 4dr Wagon AWD w/VDC (2.5L 4cyl 4A), Quartz metallic silver, black interior
Invoice: $26,613 (dealer)
Destination charge: $645 (Edmunds)
MSRP: $28523 (Edmunds)
TMV: $26605 (Edmunds)
Addl. options: Auto-Dimming Mirror/Compass $183 (Edmunds)
Price paid: $25,613 plus free window tinting ($200-400?) plus cost only on all additional accessories I purchase in the next year
Location: Spokane, WA
Ok, I've got to admit that I've been a lurker to the website for about a month. Reading reviews, prices, etc. I had to decide between the Mazda 6 and the Outback. Ultimately I chose the Outback 2008 Subaru Outback. I appreciate everyone's input on this website for 1) the knowledge of differences between the vehicles and 2) how to negotiate the best price.
I've spent about two weeks researching - but I spent all day yesterday researching and then negotiating. I think it was worth the time invested. Not sure I got rock-bottom price, but I think I came pretty darn close.
So, now for the full story. I had originally planned on buying the 2.5i - just above the basic model. I did dealer quotes through Edmunds and got responses for that vehicle that were at $19990 for the model. So, I asked for accessories at cost and got that. When we came down to final decisions between two dealerships, one appeared to give up and didn't call me back. My guess is they wanted to see how much I wanted the vehicle...and call them and they could negotiate back up again.
Oh, yeah, they kept asking me to come to the dealership...but I wasn't going to fall for that one till I had finished up the primary negotiations from the comfort of my home. But, other than a little pushiness to get me in, the internet sales managers were pleasant, funny, direct and helpful.
Ok, so I was set on one dealer. They pulled the vehicle I wanted from their inventory. I drove over and met with the rep. I took about a minute to look at the vehicle and realized they had pulled a basic model. I don't think they tried to pull a bait and switch as the rep looked totally confused and then apologetic and then almost went to tears as she realized this was probably a deal breaker based on my earlier negotiations. So, I got pissed and I was upset over the drive (1 hr) and this major problem.
They checked for the model I wanted, they had one on the lot, but not the right colors. They then switched reps...as I was still very upset. But, I calmed down, realized I still had the tools I needed and pressed on.
They stated multiple times, how can we earn your business. I really wanted the leather, upgraded Limited 2.5i w/VDC package, but didn't feel I could negotiate it down to where I wanted. But I dove in. I looked at one of the Limiteds and made my decision to play some more hardball. I said I wanted to see the invoice. They brought it out for the vehicle I wanted. I sent the rep away, went and checked on Edmunds on my Blackberry for TMV and invoice for the version. I said I wanted invoice price. They said yes. Then I said I wanted the $1000 rebate available on the model. They said yes. Then I said I still wanted the accessories at cost. They said yes. Finally, I requested free window tinting. They said yes. I obviously don't know how much they kept on holdback, or destination fees from the invoice but I pressed and got everything I wanted and then some.
The rest of the deal took time to build the paperwork, detail the car, etc., etc.
Ultimately I am happy. Although they made a mistake, they did make the situation right...which I feel turned to my advantage. I was happy with the sales people and will recommend them and the dealership to others (see, I do believe it was a mistake). Again, I'm not sure what profit the dealer made and I'm not too concerned. They do need to make a profit...it costs money to have the vehicles on the lot, pay the salespersons, shipping, advertising, etc., etc. And this is America - capitalism. But that doesn't mean you can't fight for your right as a consumer.
Note: try to do the negotiation from home and confirm, confirm, confirm. Try to get everything negotiated before you go in. That way, they don't have you on lock down. My situation went well because I could pull up TMV and invoice on Edmunds through my Blackberry and then immediately compare. If you don't have a Blackberry and they switch vehicles on you...I would leave and engage in negotiations at a later point from home. Basically restart the whole process. And look around - you don't have to buy in your hometown (although that helps your hometown tax base) - I contemplated looking at Seattle (4 hours) if I could get a better deal.
Thanks again to all. And I hope this helps you. Any questions, just post a reply.
The moonroof is great!
Looks like you did well. Good negotiation !
Did the $25,613 include the $1000 cash back ?
I want to trade my '05 Outback for an '08 LTD.
The pricing is running just about $28,000 for this manual model. If anyone else has any experience with the XT, please post.
-Auto Compass/Homelink/Dimming Mirror
-All weather mats
In the two tone blue/silver exterior and tan leather interior.
Invoice 26,672
Purchase price $500 below invoice
Customer Rebate 1000
Final Price: 25,172 + TTL
We drove a whole bunch of different cars and decided on the subaru outback.
First I was quoted the Costco price of $500 above invoice at Carter. On Thursday
Below events happened on Friday:
I used the fightingchance website and purchase their $40 pricing information packet.
The report showed me that people were getting about $600 below invoice in my area so I knew I could do better.
I called the kirkland dealership and they were going to do -$300 below invoice.
I called the carter dealership and told them that kirkland would do $500 below invoice (Yes White Lie). Carter said They could do $500 below but it would be a different color. They did not have the colors that we wanted so if they traded for one my price would be the invoice price. This is late friday and I told them I would call in the morning.
On saturday I called carter and said that I'm leaning to going somewhere else for $500 below invoice. The sales agent said give me a few minutes and let me talk to the head manager person.
I received a call an hour later that we had a deal. They would bring in the car in the color that I wanted and would give it to us for $500 below invoice.
I probably could have gone to kirkland or bellevue and got the car for $700 below invoice. Both kirkland and bellevue said they would beat whatever carter's price was.
In the end we had the car we wanted in the color we wanted at a price I could be happy with. Using the phone made it easier to deal with the people.
Did anyone buy one?
I believe they had the 6 year / 80k miles and the 7year/100k mileage available.
I was qouted 1240 for the 6 year at the dealership but I did not buy it?
I have heard that I will receive some offers in the mail to buy the warranty as was wondering if anyone else has received this offers and what the cost was.
Thanks,
http://www.moyersubaru.com/en_US/
They're advertising 10% off right now, too.
My wife has one on her Legacy, 7/100 Gold. We like that roadside assistance is included for the duration.
They are just trying to make some money
Got a new Subaru 2007 2.5i for $18445 + Tax!
Is that a good Deal ?
They didn't dip below $20k until recently, it seems.