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$1700 drive off, 67% residual 10K miles a year. Price was MSRP $24,700, $351 a month including tax. I thought it was reasonable.
Before I ordered I went to Universal Mini. Told them what I wanted. They came back with.....get ready for this.....$3000 markup,$1000 lojack, $300 for nitrogen for tires, $5300 drive off and $461 a month!!!! That is a difference of around $12,000 on a $24,700 car!! When I told them of the deal I had at Bob Smith they came back with almost same deal as Bob Smith except payment was $363/month. They dropped all the other markups and charges. I think we know what dealer to stay away from.
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I have a question for anyone that custom-orderd a Mini and purchased it with outside financing (not the dealer) or cash. Did the dealer still require you to fill out a credit application? The dealer I visited in southern California told me that it's required, in addition to the deposit ($1000). Is it a standard requirement to apply for credit before being able to order a Mini? She told me that it's for their protection, but that got me thinking- isn't that what the deposit is for?
I ordered one in Nov. from a Northern Cal dealer and we never discussed a credit application. Have you checked with other area dealers to see what they are doing? It may be that just this dealer requires it. It seems reasonable if they want to make sure your qualified for financing on the car you are ordering. However, I suspect the main reason they want to know your credit limit is that way they can push options, packages and cool extras on you until you are maxed out. Definately get preapproved from another financial institution so you can defend yourself against any dealer games. The deposit is fully refundable and does not protect the dealer if you order something out of your price range.
Maybe it doesn't matter, but I'll be financing my self.
Any tips on where I can get a deal will be much appreciated. Mini of Woodlands? Momentum Mini? Mini of SanAntonio?
Thanks!
You may be shopping at the wrong place. Honda's Fit is more in keeping with your pricing expectations.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
$600/mo???????????????
How much down?
A new M3 base = almost $55K...
- Ray
Very curious.
2008 M3s are getting at least 6k off MSRP. I've seen some as much as 10k off MSRP. This was a fairly low content model at 59k and the dealer would accept 52500 on Dec 31. With a money factor of 0.00025 and 56% residual (10k a year lease), the payments were $605 a month. If for some reason I was going over miles I could buy more or just aim to buy the car outright. Heck, with a 0.6% finance charge I was getting the car at a cut rate.
I would actually prefer an even more stripped M3. Totally base. There's nothing I really would want on it that isn't standard.
Thanks!
- Ray
Thinking this means some BMW
dealers, at least, really do need sales........
I have chatted on the phone and passed e-mails with both dealerships and so far have no reason to choose one over the other. Indy is in state so the paperwork might be simpler (minor issue, for sure) and has promised a loaner car on days of routine maintenance, so I could spend some time kicking around Indy while the car is in the shop. Have not talked to Cincy about that.
My main concern is warranty work from a dealer that far away. Bad tires or a problem that makes the car unsafe to drive that far could be a problem.
Do I need to be concerned about this?
TIA
I'm not familiar with the MINI dealer in Indianapolis, so I can't give you any help there, one way or the other..
I would talk to someone specifically about inventory before assuming they don't have an acceptable unit based on the website. Cincinnati MINI seems to have 30-40 MINIs in stock at any one time..
I like the Cincinnati dealer for service, etc.. Very efficient, helpful, etc.. Price is less of an issue with a MINI, as most dealers stick with MSRP.
From the mileage, I'm guessing you live somewhere along the Ohio River in the far southern part of the state.. The issue about not having a local dealer is one that I've never had to deal with.. You can get tires from any local shop, but a mechanical breakdown might be an issue. You might try discussing that with a sales associate at either dealership, to see if they have any info on how that would be handled. I can see where that might stop you from getting a MINI.
Are you really 200 miles from Indianapolis? (doesn't seem possible from the south?) If so, you might consider Nashville, which might be slightly closer, depending on the highways necessary to get there.. (and less chance of winter weather issues).
Good luck!
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I am planning to drive to Indy on Monday and visit. I'd have time to then drive to Cincy, although I expect I'd hear the same story. Both are apparently reputable dealers with no particular difference between them. We'll see how it goes.
I am trading in my 1997 Z3 thinking it would be good to part with it before it gets to 100,000 miles (psychological values being what they are).
Thanks for the information!
Good luck with it!
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1. There isn't a San Diego dealer so I was faced with driving through rush hour to get out of the city for service.
2. I called the dealer and they told me I could bring the car in but they had no idea when it would get looked at or if I could get a loaner (even though I bought from them).
I wasn't real thrilled with losing a day of work because my car had warning lights telling me ABs/traction control was disabled/broken.
Also, when I take the car in for planned service (4 service appointments in 22 months of ownership), this pretty much slaughters half a Saturday. The drive up, the wait to get the car processed and get the loaner (always the cheapest, lowest form of cooper with an automatic) and drive home = 2.5 hours gone. Then the eventual drive back up, re-gas the loaner, return it, go through the brouhahah with with the SA, wait for the car to get returned (always 20 minutes after I finish with the SA) and the drive home.
This is one big reason why the Cooper S Clubman won't be replacing my Cooper S. I do not like having to waste huge amounts of time getting to and from a dealer. And with only one dealer locally, they have zero interest in providing good customer service. There's no competition and that's always bad for customers.
Just something to keep in mind. After years with BMWs and access to several dealers within 10 minutes of my home, I find I do not relish another dealer network that's so sparse (our audi has the same problem).
1) Loaners: For scheduled service at least one week out are almost always available... Unscheduled could be an issue..
2) The dealer charges $0.15 per mile on loaners to cover fuel... .That way, you don't have to fuel up near the dealer.. If you happen to fuel up, they will reimburse you...
3) Great lease deals on 135i coupes and convertibles right now, if you wanted to go that way, instead... that way you have a local dealership (Louisville). Of course, if you've had your current car since '97, then leasing probably isn't for you..
I have to agree with blueguy... Not sure I'd risk buying a car where the closest dealer is two hours away... but, that's easy to say, when my local area has everything but Ferrari, Lambo and Aston..
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My wife would like a Mini and another strong advocate is my mechanic who has and LOVES his convertible. I've only had the Z3 for a couple of years, but it at 94000 miles it is showing some wear and tear with the possibility of needing some work. Plus, it's just an old car now (features).
There is a shop in town who specializes in BMW and MINIs but would probably not be able to do warranty work.
Thanks for the comments. I have the advantage of not really needing a replacement right now, so I can go up and do a test drive with no pressure at all on deciding whether to buy something. When I do make the change, it will be my drive around in retirement car (late 2009!) which will be cheaper to run than the wife's Quest. If we could just get a dealer HERE!
They did have a basic automatic in Nightfire Red with cream interior accents and black top and stripes. Sport seats and bluetooth were nice additions. We decided that we REALLY liked that car.
The new car bug bit real hard. The rational, "This is too far for service" and "The features we really want ..." and "I really should buy American to help OUR economy" all went by the wayside when I compared the thought of driving home in that sparkling red Clubman vs driving home in the 97 Z3. I'm not a high performance kind of driver so I think the basic will serve me well.
Worst case warranty issues seem to be addressed by both MINI and the dealer. I would still be pretty inconvenienced for less than critical problems but I guess I'll just gamble that I won't have those.
So I'm a member of the club. Gonna pull out the manual and go through the feature list again to be sure I know what all the buttons are for and how to use the hands free phone system. Much to learn!
Next is checking the forum for any discussions about grade of gas.
The MINI sport seats are awesome! Plus, it sounds like maybe you've got regular tires with a spare... can't beat that!
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I know that some sources claim that 91 is a waste of money, other say that the car performs noticeably better using the higher grade. It is possible that the latter comment refers only to the higher performance engines than what I have.
The last comments about gas that I found on a search here are a couple of years old and thought I'd see what the opinions are for the more current engines. My first refill is a few days away so I thought I'd be ready.
TIA
I fill up my Cooper S 3 times a month. Always with premium. Then again, I find the power in my Cooper S to be adequate - but I push it to 4-5k rpm on most shifts. I would notice less HP.
Point taken.
Filled with 91.
I am interested in ordering a new 2009 base Cooper that would have an MSRP of approximately $20,050.00.
The best discount that I have been offered for a factory order is $330.00 inclusive of all dealer fees.
Is this the going market price given the current market environment and what should I expect?
I live far away from the closest dealership and am concerned about potential problems. How reliable is the Mini?
With appreciation and kind regards,
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I am in Indianapolis if intrested
Thanks.
Either way, if the dealer was okay, I'd either ask for more off, or for something else to be thrown in complimentary, like floor mats are something.
I did ask for more off and got a thumbs down on that. He told me he'd try to find a car with fewer options. He had previousl mentioed floor mats, what a crock to not provide mats, gees, but he has not said that again. May push for that since he already mentioned it. Again thanks for the input.
This price includes the dealer's paint protector (Perma Plate), window tinting, and the de-activated LoJack. Floor mats were not.
End of the month timing and the fact that we did not use the financing program (4.9%) that will end on March 31 might have helped the negotiation.
Initial prices for the dealer items were: Paint protector: $800. Window tinting: $500. Floor Mats: $110. LoJack: $900. When the deal was done, the finance person tried again to sell LoJack for $700 and then $400.
TWZ