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2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I'm dealing with a few dealerships in the MD/VA area trying to get a good price. I'm more than likely going to order one because they don't have one in their inventories with what I want.
The MSRP is coming too $32,450, then add taxes, tags, title etc. By my calculations the out-the-door price would be around $34,700, they're offering me $34,000. Wanted to get a vibe if I'm getting a good deal.
Thanks!
If you are not absolutely invested in the Mini or the 2010 GTi, I would suggest you take a look at the 2009 GTis. There are some incredible deals going around for that car - dealers are having hard time selling but apparently VW keeps shipping them.
One dealer I went to offered a 3000$ discount on the spot even before negotiations began! I was sorely tempted as the GTi was fun to drive. But I (and more importantly, the wife) wanted a convertible for the SoCal weather. So I am going for the Mini.
I'm sure I can get a sick deal on an '09 GTI, but I tend to keep my cars for a while (I've owned my current '01 Honda Prelude Type SH for over 7 years & 113K miles), but the '09 isn't the car I want. Thanks for the tip though.
The GTI is going to have to blow me out of the water though. I'm a BMW nut and really dig the MINI (plus it is my 2 1/2 year-old's favorite car)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Base MSRP* $21,950
Destination & Handling $650
Black Roof/Mirrors $0
Dark Silver Body Color $500
PACKAGES
Premium Package $1,250
Automatic AC
Dual Pane Panoramic Sunroof
Leather Sport Wheel w/Multifunction
Cold Weather Package $500
Heated Powerfold Mirrors & Washer Jets
Heated Front Seats
PERFORMANCE
6-Speed Auto w/Agitronic Mode $1,250
16" Bridge Spoke (Perf. Run Flats) $0
Dynamic Stability Control STD
Front Fog Lamps STD
COCKPIT
Leatherette: Black/Grey STD
Interior Surface Piano Black $250
Bluetooth and USB/iPod Adapter $500
Interior Color: Carbon Black STD
Sport Seats STD
On-Board Computer STD
6-spkr AM/FM CD Player STD
TOTAL MSRP AS CONFIGURED* $26,850
GENUINE MOTORING ACCESSORIES**
MINI Portable Navigation System (installation not incl.) $399
Cosmopolitan Floor Mats (4) (installation not incl.) $110
TOTAL ACCESSORIES ** $509
TOTAL MSRP AS CONFIGURED* $26,850
TOTAL COMBINED $27,359
Negotiated internet price $26,050 (including installation of navigation unit) Not including TTL.
Being a BMW nut, I had EXTREMELY high expectations for the MINI. I thought the car was solid & comfortable. The brakes are close to perfect. It is deceptively quick, I found myself doing 75 on an on ramp in 4th gear (I honestly didn't realize). Visibility is very restricted. I found myself looking under the windshield at every red light. Rearward visibility was just OK. The clutch takeup was very abrupt. I found the ride to be too soft & a little isolated.
I actually liked the car until I got back into my Prelude. It just has a much better feel for the road. After leaving the MINI dealer, I went to the Acura dealer and test drove a 2010 TSX. I'm pretty sure that's going to be our next car.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
thanks for any tips...
However ,I went to the 2010 TSX and decided after I took it up to 70 Miles an hour in 3rd and went into 6th this was the car for my wife Rather than the BMW or Lexus IS. Acura's are bullet proof, never had a problem with any of them.
How ever, I need a HB and I'm waitng on the TDI VW Golf. ( Iknow realiability) but I need a Home Depot car.
Get the Acura. :shades:
However ,I went to the 2010 TSX and decided after I took it up to 70 Miles an hour in 3rd and went into 6th this was the car for my wife Rather than the BMW or Lexus IS. Acura's are bullet proof, never had a problem with any of them.
How ever, I need a HB and I'm waitng on the TDI VW Golf. ( Iknow realiability) but I need a Home Depot car.
Get the Acura. :shades:
Thanks!!
Let me know if you need any other information.
What are the small issues?
Did you buy or lease? What colors?
Issues are really small - a bit of rattle/hum from behind the driver's side door. It doesn't happen always and IMO caused by a combination of the stiffer sports suspension and bad roads where I live. Haven't taken it to the dealership yet. No other problems and 700 miles of happy driving (>13hours open top
Thanks
2009 Cooper
Yellow Mellow Color
6 speed
Convenience Pkg
Premium Pkg
Cold Weather pkg
Sports pkg
Xenon Lights
Mini Hi Fi
Piano Black Interior Surface
MSRP 24950
Invoice 22702
Selling Price 23875 plus tax, title, delaer fee
Also included "free" mirrors and sunroof graphics valued at about $450.00 so ends up being MSRP 25400 and selling price 23875.
Judging from my prior experience of MSRP only, this is not too bad. Dealer initially offered MSRP plus $600 in "free" accessories; Ended up more like $1075 off MSRP plus $450 in "free" accessories.
At the end I am happy, but wanted to share what is ou there. Car actually will be ordered - one of the last remaning 2009 production spots they say.
Since car is being built and will likely be delivered in September, one can't lock in the current low financing rates since they are only valid through 8/31. Experience tells me rates will still be there next month too, but at this point it is a little bit of "who knows." Hopefully I will get that 1.9%
Signed form in the mail 7/18
Order submitted 7/20
Goes into production 7/22
Comes off the assembly line 7/31
C4C runs out of $1B around here
On the boat 8/4
C4C adds $2B 8/6
Arrives in Bayonne 8/13
Arrives at dealership 8/18
Pick up (My first time at the dealership) 8/21
C4C ends 8/24 (8/21 at the dealership)
MSRP 19.2K
my price 18.5K
C4C -4.5K
-my beloved 87 RX7, no scrap value given
net price 14K
add back doc fee 239
NJ sales tax on the entire 18.5K, thank you Corzine 1295
title, transfer tags, NJ tire fee. 75
OTD 15.6K
Despite being completely stripped, it is quite well equipped. What more do you need? Pretty sweet deal in my book. Find a used MINI at this price. I'm loving it. :shades:
Is ~1000K reasonable to ask them to knock off the MSRP?
I'll buy via their financing so the % rate is locked in.
Any other areas I can get them to knock some $$ off?
No trade in (and I wouldn't negotiate it with the purchase deal).
I'm going to ask the sales man to write up the contract and send it to me so I'm not wasting a Saturday looking at the finance person and listening to their pitch. Yawn!
I'm about to shop around for a new Mini.
What is usually the reduction that could be made below the msrp, especially that 2010 models will be soon aboard?
Can somebody help me with the name of a dealer where good deals could be made in DC (or even NYC) area?
I'm about to shop around for a new Mini.
What is usually the reduction that could be made below the msrp, especially that 2010 models will be soon aboard?
Can somebody help me with the name of a dealer where good deals could be made in DC (or even NYC) area? Has anybody tried with Passport MIni at Alexandria, Virginia?
Is your MINI a MINI S Cooper or a Cooper without Turbine engine? Tks.
I am considering a MINI, but I am not sure how much difference it will be b/w MINI S or MINI. Do you have any comments?
Is there any one who recently bought MINI in this area? Unfortunately, there is only one MINI deal in Memphis. I will consider dealers in TX or LA, if the price is better. Appreciate if any one could share experience from TN, TX, or LA?
What that mean? :confuse:
Does it mean that unless I select this option, the car will only have manual transmission?
Tks.
I shall note that our car is 6 speed manual. I had a chance to drive the car with automatic transmission and when you put that transmission in the Sport mode, it is also quite fun to drive, perhaps because it keeps car in the lower gears and higher RPMs resulting in more pull and better responsiveness. Of course it burns more fuel that way too.
As to Sport mode, do I have to select the sport package or it is an choice in standard model?
Can walmart do the regular maintenance, for instance, oil change and filter change?
Can normal bodyshop do the regular repair, if there is sth wrong with MINI?
Is spare parts available in Autoparts zone?
How about the overall quality of MINI? (I suppose it is good.)
Thanks.
BUT, warranty service and the included 3 years of service can only be done at a Mini dealer. Not even at a BMW dealer.
As far a quality, JDPowers results show the Mini to be one of the worst cars.
Consumer Reports shows reliability to be mediocre.
Considering the reliability, dearth of Mini service, and high price, I'm probably going to get a Mazda 3 instead.
Of course if you really want a fun car that is reliable too and can live with 2 seats, get a Miata!
I just read the documents from them. There is a fee named "PHANTOM FP," which is around $260 apart from the dealer fee $399.50. What is PHANTOM FP?
I called the MINI dealer in Memphis. They said the 'extra' fee they charged is only document fee $399, which,as argued by MINI salesman, is the 'general level in TN'. I haven't visit them and talk face to face yet. But at least they cut off 1,000 for their cooper (1,500 for Cooper S) in stock, which is ad. on their website.
Thank you for your message. I wish I know that information earlier:(
I just called the dealer. I was told that Panthon FP something is something used to track my car in case it was stolen.
I am a girl, and I went to the dealer by myself. I though I would be tough to argue with them. It looks like I did not do a good work:)
I wish you get the mini you want, and good luck with your purchase! I will be envious:)
NYC
36 months 12K miles
$1375.76 due at start (1st month, bank fee)
$488.92 per month INCL tax
$18960.00 residual 60%
MSRP: $31600
Negotiated selling price: $30850
How'd I do?
Thanks to all who responds!!
Has anyone out there ordered a 2010 for less than MSRP? I live in CA and really have no problem dealing with any of the dealers in the state (or NV & AZ for that matter).
I probably would have paid the MSRP cost justifying it by saying that the dealer is entitled to a profit (even if a bit steep) until the sales person said that all their 2010 orders are done with Lojack and Perma plate. I said no to both then their "out the door" quote was still $600 OVER MSRP + tax/license/title. Making for a $3,600 profit!!
My daughter has a MINI - at 38,000 miles -ish
Need to investigate this.
May make some folks more comfortable
with a MINI purchase...
- Ray
The protection plan info is really interesting. I wish that I had the same warranty options when I purchased a '04 Certified Pre-Owned Mini S with extended warranty. You would think that everything would be ok-not so much.
I have driven the car 15,000. Here is the quick and dirty:
38,700 miles Bought a Certified Pre-Owned 04 Mini s w/ extended warranty-April 08
38,708 miles Returned the car because the rear bumper was two-toned-April 08
46,629 miles The crankshaft pulley, bolt, tensioner were repaired-Jan. 09
53,000 miles The clutch, tire arms, tire bolts, tires all need repairs-Oct. 09
The January repairs were covered. The October repairs are not covered and will cost $6,600 from the dealer or $5,400 from a mechanic.
It may make sense to check out the other forum discussions like clutch/transmission to hear other drivers experiences...
I have more info on my experience & the forensics of buying a mini.
I hope that this helps.
Good Luck!
Are New York area dealers still getting full sticker price for the 2009 models? Seems to be a lot of inventory still left.
Are the 2010s in the showroom yet?
Would I get a better bang for my buck with a used one?
Thanks!
First the 2010s are in the showroom here... second, I sense an urgency in the tone of your email... If a dealer senses that also they will be much less inclined to "deal".
I would suggest that you check the dealer inventory on the MINI USA site of every dealer within a few hundred miles, make a list of those that have what you want and then send the sales manager of each one an email in essence saying what you want, that you are ready to deal and see what their best offer would be... and see who gets back to you. THAT'S who you want to deal with!
Two alternative suggestions... There are more convertibles in inventory in Fla & California this time of year. Buy one there and give your wife a plane ticket for her birthday... she can drive it home!! OR If she really wants a MINI, she probably knows exactly what she wants... for her birthday let her order a 2010 exactly the way she wants it... Trust me, the weeks between order date and delivery date will probably be some of the best of your life!! hahahahah...
NOTE: Shop around. Even on a 2010 order don't pay MSRP! I was able to get a dealer to agree to Invoice plus a flat fee of $1,500. A factory order costs a dealer very little. IMHO, all dealers should adopt a policy on factory orders of "invoice + set fee".
Hope this helps you out some....