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my pickup is scheduled for June 28 but I plan to shift it to June 30
we then plan to drive south and over to Copenhagen for 5 or 6 days
Three weeks, 3000 miles.
I am new to this board. Took my first test drive yesterday......loved it! Can anyone in my geographic area share/recommend their purchase and dealership experiences? Thanks!
The savings are incredible, roughly 10% of MSRP,
the list of options is much bigger (you also can get an individual options instead of package - heated seats, or get the option that is not available locally at all - speed sensitive steering on 2.5T AWD)
Volvo fly you and your significant other to Europe for free and gives one night free in a hotel in Gothenburg.
You also get unforgettable, truly VIP treatment at the Factory Delivery center, and been able to see how your car is built - is a life time experience on it's own.
I've done it once in 2000 for my S80, going again in June for XC90, and planning to do it again in a couple of years for my daughter's S40.
Look for the Overseas Delivery program at http://www.volvocars.us/FinancialServices/Overseas
Then again, by flying over the pole, maybe our flight isn't as bad as I think it will be....
If you can't get an outstanding deal at your local dealer, then go for the overseas delivery, even if you only go for a long weekend.
My wife and I will also be picking up an XC90 in Gothenburg on June 29 (our 13 year anniversary). We bought our 2000 S70 through the X-Plan, and were prepared to do the same with an XC90 until I saw the information on the OSD. The OSD prices were about $1500 less than the X-Plan, plus the 2 free tickets and the night in Gothenburg. We could either give that $1500 to the dealer or use it as a nice start for a vacation in Sweden. We'll be cruising down the coast and back up to Stockholm, and then cutting across the Lake region back to Gothenburg. We looked at the OSD tour packages, but decided to plan our own trip (Countryside Hotels is a great resource of small select hotels and inns throughout Sweden). The only "catch" to OSD, of course, is that we ordered the vehicle in March and it won't be in our driveway until probably September - something our dealership stressed very hard (they wanted to sell what was on the lot). We didn't have the easiest time with dealership about OSD (something that is common, unfortunately, from what I've read elsewhere), but they finally came around. Now, we're just counting the days. Hope to see you both at the FDC!
:-)
And here in Los Angeles, the dealer was, on contrary, very accomodating to the OSD. I do not see any reasons for them not to be - dealer still have some kick-back from Volvo (I've heard - $300) and all they need to do - just fill up a couple of simple forms.
We've got very nice test drive - over an hour - freeway, city drive, mountain drive - as we wanted to confirm to our self that 2.5T will be sufficient.
And I like Calabasas Volvo a lot. The service department is excellent, and sales is very courteous and professional.
Our dealership (in St. Louis) is fine - we've used them and their service dept. for our 2000 S70. They just really would have preferred to sell a vehicle off their lot, and that's fine, but that's not what we wanted. I think some dealerships are more OSD accomodating, for whatever reason.
adp3, I'll make sure lev doesn't eat all the meatballs.
And while in Germany, Czech Republic, Austria, etc., as well...
My question is simple. People who just bought their XC 90s, are you getting them for close to invoice nowadays?
So, I would say - No,
And the prices are fixed.
I have read some anecdotal evidences here on this board about the price negotiations for the OSD, but I take them with the huge grain of salt.
My personal experience (twice), experience of the people I personally know and the general understanding of the OSD program, makes me believe that you have very little chance there.
The ordered car takes 12-15 weeks to build, so you might be too late for June.
Gothenburg itself is pretty boring. This is typical industrial European city.
I would strongly recommend to visit Stockholm, it's one of the European gems. It's very lively and beautiful.
It is within the easy 3-4h drive from the Gothenburg, and the route by the lakes is very scenic on it's own.
Summer is good there. It's not too hot.
I would recommend two options:
1. Pick-up and drop off in Gothenburg.(Three advantages - it's free, you have one night for free and you can take the factory tour).
- Fly in on Sunday, do all the sightseens in the afternoon, stay overnight for free
- Take a delivery and a factory tour (very entertaining).
- Drive to Stockholm and spend three - four nights there.
- Drive back to Gothenburg on Friday, drop the car and fly home.
2. Pick-up and drop-off in Stockholm. (You have to pay some nominal fee, but you do not have to drive.
Volvo will help you with the hotel arrangements. The prices from their travel agency are decent.
Volvo also offers a couple of Scandinavian tours.
You will find all the details on the Volvocars.us web site
http://volvocars.us/FinancialServices/Overseas/
I would assume the Ford employee discount extends to Volvo, but I'm not certain. The reason why I believe that it would is because Volvo participates in Ford's X-Plan program. (The X-Plan is special discount given to companies with which Ford does a lot of business). We bought our 2000 S-70 with the X-Plan and were prepared to use it again until deciding on the OSD.
We'll be in Gothenburg in late June (the same time as lev). I've never been there, but from what I've read it is supposed to have a good art museum and botanical gardens. It appears, however, that most of the attractions - cultural and not - are in Stockholm. Stockholm looks like a beautiful, beautiful city, and we will be spending about three or four days there.
If you can't make it to Stockholm, there are quite a few interesting little seaside towns both north (Bohuslan Coast)and south(Bastad, Molle) of Gothenburg if you only have a few days, and the towns and castles around Lake Vanern (huge lake) are very close to Gothenburg. From what I've read, it appears that most of the tourist sites close up sometime in September or October, though.
The Volvo travel packages can be pricey, but they do include a lot of your meals. If you have the time, energy and courage, though, you can plan your own trip. Countryside Hotels is a federation of small, exclusive hotels throughout Sweden, and you can get some good deals through them (especially during the summer using their summercheques); in fact, many of the locations used in the Volvo travel packages are Countryside Hotels. It would be a shame, however, not to spend more than 3 days over there.
Guys - we are rotten spoiled here in US, especially with Volvo, being the major market for them.
The XC90 in Russia
2.5T manual - $61,400 5 seats, $63,800 - 7 seats
T6 - auto - $72,500 and 74,900 respectively
Australia:
XC90 2.5T - $53,000
T6 - $63,000
Germany
mid-range 2.5T auto/ 7 seats - $56,000
premium 2.5T auto/7 seats - $58,700
etc., etc.
All prices are converted to USD.
Thanks
Has anyone else seen this promo elsewhere?
The only catches are you need a 730 credit score, and metallic paint and third row seats are extra but I don't need them.
My wife has told me she heard this deal on the radio here, so I guess it's in the midwest too.
Do you know how long this is on for?
First, is this a lease or a buy? If a lease it's less of a problem since the car will belong to someone else after 36-48 months.
If it's a buy deal, here are a few things to consider. 1) Who drove the car? Was it used as a loaner for service? If so, don't buy it. I know I abuse the hell out of rentals/loaners and so would 200 other drivers if this a loaner. (50 miles each). 2) What model year is it? If it's an 04 then you haven't lost the year yet on resale value. You have however lost a half year (05s due out in the fall), but so have all of us who would buy an 04.
There are a number of other things to consider, I just can't remember off hand right now. I have this info in a file. Check out fighting chance dot com for some useful info. It's worth the money.
I'm not sure how much of a difference in price you should expect, but I would imagine it should be a few k.
If you find out if the X plan helps further on the current lease deals, let me know. My dealer tells me that the current lease deal from Volvo on the XC90 T5 is rock bottom and the X plan won't help. My friend at Ford said that shouldn't be the case.
I live north of San Francisco so there are plenty of dealers in the area.
Thanks in advance.
The dealer's invoice for the 2.5T AWD starts at 34,264 (according to the MSN and Edmunds) and the OSD price for the same car starts at 33, 640.
Plus, there is a lot of "a la cart" options with the OSD program that either only available with the package locally (the heated seats) or not available at all (the speed sensitive steering or auto dimmed rear view mirror on 2.5T). It could be a small, but nice additional convenience.
While it would be great to do the OSD way, it is not real feasible for me at the moment. So, I am trying to get the best deal I can. I looked at the prices on edmunds and the invoice price is 2K off typically. Does anyone know if the X PLAN price is the same as invoice?
Can I ask you a question?
You said that OSD is not feasible for you. What is it, that stays between you and the OSD? The long wait, the really tight work schedule that does not allow even for the 3-4 day break?
My sincere apologies for asking, but I am curious. I was so awed by the OSD program and it makes so much financial sense (even air fare is paid, on a top of the "rock-bottom" price) that I always surprised learning that people hesitate to do it or, even stronger, find it non-feasible.
I will appreciate your answer.
Lev.
Had I known about the OSD sooner, I might have been tempted. However, my work schedule right now does not permit me to take 4 days off and then there is a wait of 3/4 months. Plus, we would be coming from CA which is a 13/14 hour flight alone...factor in jetlag, time difference and then do the same thing a few days later. Is it really worth that much wear and tear on your body??
I just love to travel, and the OSD, besides anything else, is a perfect opportunity for the really-really inexpensive travel - your air fare is paid, you drive your own car, so the car rental is taken care off, etc., etc.
And on a top of it - absolutely no negotiation hassles to get a great price, and last but not least totally different, for the better, buying experience in Gothenburg. I felt like a king back in 2000, being picked in the airport, ridden the Volvo S80 stretch limo to the hotel, and then from the hotel to the factory next morning, had a truly VIP reception at the delivery center, etc.
So,
I, probably, is not going to change your mind, but I want you to be tempted... :-)
P.S.: I live in CA too and already have scheduled my second OSD for June.
Yes, but you are factoring in a vacation....had I know sooner I might have been able to plan it better. Have a great time on your trip...it sounds very nice.
The other issue too is how long does it take to have the car shipped. I might not get the car until Sept. But, I do appreciate the advice and it is something I will bear in mind for the future.
I am curious as to where the " Invoice Price " comes from?? I know it is on edmunds.com, but who calculates this? I know the dealerships have to make money too, so if people are getting good deals from dealers which is close to OSD then how much is Volvo really reducing costs by selling directly. Some people on this site have gotten incredible deals...
It takes 6-7 weeks to get car here on the West coast, since you dropped it in Europe.
Now, when it comes to the incredible deals...
I am a bit suspicious about them, some postings do sound in-(non) credible.
However, XC90 T6 is moving slow, so I would not be too surprised that some dealers can sell them at the cost, or even below their cost to decrease the inventory and clear room up for the new cars.
Dealer invoice is public info, I believe, however, dealer gets the pay-back from Volvo, which brings the actual dealer's cost below the invoice.
Volvo is capable of selling the cars directly via OSD program below dealer invoice because they do not have that pay-back to the dealer, but a smaller fixed fee for filling up the OSD paper work. It is just $300 as of my knowledge.
Plus, Volvo gets some incentives from the Sweden government for bringing tourists to the country.
Plus, Volvo saves a lot on better cash flow. Dealer pays on terms, you pay up-front. Car has to be paid off one month prior to the delivery. And anybody, who runs their own business will understand this part...
I have read some postings here that the OSD savings are also contributed to the fact that the Volvo Cars of North America is cut from the deal and you buy car directly from Swedish Corporation. But - all the paper work that I have received related to the purchase, including the Order confirmation, and this is the only proof of purchase I have, is from the Volvo cars of North America (VCNA).
So I have tendency to believe, consider the common law of land, that I have purchased my car from VCNA, as I do not believe that they will forge the documentation and put their name on the document where they have no rights to do that.
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Welcome to the murky world of selling cars! There is a whole slew of profits built into the system including hold backs, bonuses and the like. Trust me, they aren't starving!
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One thing....what happens if you buy this car in Sweden and then you bring it to the US things start to go wrong with it. Who do you bring it to? I am just curious is that has happened to people and how they dealt with it.
You just go to the local dealer of you choice and get serviced as any other car sold here.
Technically, you purchase you car here, in US, and the transaction is governed by the local laws, including "lemon" laws. You just take a delivery in Europe.
You do not buy your car with OSD program in Sweden.