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FORD 2000 SD 250 CC, V8 or V10 ?????
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If it is on the SUBJECT, then all's fine and dandy. I really didn't expect adults(big assumption here) to show such childish behavior to a simple question about the F250 SD. I guess most folks have a higher sense of common curtesy than you have showed.
You Ford guy's always come across as being leather necked, tough as nails. What is your story?
I will try and stick to the topic for "those" prudent "adults" around here. I am proud to be a big kid. I plan to be a kid until the day I die.
Good luck with whatever you buy. I would buy the Powerstroke if I were you. Ford doesn't have a good gas engine alternative.
Ford is the only choice for an over 8600 GVWR Crew Cab with disc brakes, modern chassis and modern engine. You can only get an over 8600 GVWR with ESOF from Ford.
I drive an F350 LWB SRW CC 4WD V10 3.73 AT Lariat and have no regrets. This 6000 lb vehicle keeps my family safe and hauls/tows almost everything. 14 highway and 12 city are my averages.
Hope this helps.
Greg
Any 5.4 folks out there ??
I'm also looking at the 2001 f150 supercrew cab.
But... real leary about getting a FIRST year model.
thanx again,
However, my other foreman thinks his buddy is nuts and always puts in for either the diesels or the V-10. I guess I didn't really help you......Sorry. Actually they love that Cummins.
I have the 5.4 in a 150 and love the power. However, if I was to buy a 250 I would go with the v-10. If you are not sure go big and be safe. From what I hear the updated v-10 is impressive and that would make an awesome combo.
Good Luck
I've been getting anywhere from 11 - 15 mpg, but mostly about 12mpg with about 3000 miles on my truck. Is there any low cost way of increasing the mpg? I've read about the low-restriction air filters and also about a piece that goes in the air intake that is suppose to swirl the air. Do these really work? How about a different exhaust system. Has anybody out there tried something that actually gives them better mpg?
This is a great forum. I look forward to your responses.
Actually found almost perfect truck yesterday. F-250 S/D, Crew Cab, Short bed, 4x4, V10, 5speed. Had the XLT Lariet option, don't care for leather but it was very nice. The deal breaker? 3.73 open axles. The person who orders the vehicles wasn't there and nobody could explain open diffs on a 4x4. At least nobody there tried to "sell" me on the advantages of an open diff.
I bet the 'open axles' is referring to the limited-slip differential option. I bought my truck off the dealers lot and it has limited-slip differentials. I wasn't going to spend the extra money for the option but it's hard to find a new crew cab in my area so I bought it. I've had limited slip on some of the 2wd trucks I've had and it helps to keep both wheels turning if the snow or mud gets deep. I suppose limited slip will help on my SD too if I get in real deep.
I put a Century topper on my truck last week. It really keeps the lines of the truck and looks like it came from the factory with it.
Take care, Jack
Although the 5.4L would probably have adequate power for your needs, you would basically be sacrificing power with little, if any, gain in mpg. The issue is the weight of the Superduty. My 92 F-250HD 4x4 weighed 5,300 pounds with a fiberglass shell. My 99 F-350SD SC dually 4x4 V-10 4.30 Lariat weighs 7,100 pounds.
The mpg figures gmace quotes appear to be what most people are quoting for the V-10 with the 3.73 axle ratio. I've heard figures as low as 11 mpg in straight city driving. I've also heard of a few 15-16mpg quotes for hwy. Realistically, I think anyone getting 16mpg with the V-10 must have had a good tailwind or headed downhill. (I once got over 23 mpg when I fueled at the top of a long grade and coasted down the hill.)
The mpg quotes I've heard from people with the 5.4L has been around 15mpg on the hwy. I've also heard mpg figures that were equal to the V-10. That's a pretty questionable gain to sacrifice 50hp and a good chunk of torque. When considering your choices, remember that a 1mpg decrease in mpg will cost you about $15 more per month in fuel if you travel 15,000 miles per year.
For the record, the duallys and the 4.30 axle ratio cost me about 2+mpg compared to the V-10 3.73 SRW. I get 9.5-10 in a combo of city/hwy and 11.5-12 on the hwy at 70. If I kept the speed at 55, I could probably improve my hwy mpg about 1+mpg. With the 4.30 axle ratio, the mpg appears to fall off pretty quick after you exceed 55. I'm turning about 2,400 rpms at 70.
With my slide-in camper in the bed (total weight of truck, camper, gear and passengers is close to 12,000 pounds), I get 8.5-9 with my speed in the low 60s and 9.5-10 if I keep it at 55. With the 4.30 axle ratio, it takes a pretty good, extended grade for my truck to downshift out of OD, even carrying that load.
I think the 290hp came about when people were trying to figure out what the new hp rating for 2000 was going to be. There was a lot of speculation when people heard they were increasing. The 99 rating was 275. However, the 99 rating for the V-10 in the Econoline Van was 265. The 2000 Superduty has the 310/425.
As for aftermarket items, I've heard good things about the Gale Banks systems. www.galebanks.com. It looks like you have a choice of systems depending on your budget. The best gains will cost you about $2,200 installed and will increase hp over 350 and the torque will be about where the PSD is at. One guy who is participating in the Superduty topic had one installed last week. I'm interested to hear him report back on the performance. The Banks system advertises mpg gains, but I'd guess that you would use up any gains by exercising the added power.
I'd like to get a turbo but it seems pricey for a 1mpg - 2mpg increase. I'm thinking about trying a K&N filter or maybe a cat-back exhaust system. I want something I can do myself without spending too much money or time but will give a noticeable result. If a 1mpg increase is worth $15 a month in gas I think I'll try both.
I'll let you know my results.
See ya,
Alan
I own a 99 F-350 v10 Crew Cab LWB, I towed a 12000lb 5th wheel across the U.S. and got various gas mileages along the way. My numbers are similar to those posted in this topic, but I thought I give those out. Towing I get from 8.5 - 11 mpg. While not towing I get from 11 - 14 mpg, depending of city driving. I have a 4.10 Axle to give me the maximum towing for the truck of 13,600lbs. I love the v10 even though my truck is simply huge.
see ya around
briman
The advantage of the 1 ton over the 3/4 ton is in GVWR. That's the manufacturer's max weight rating for the truck, passengers, gear, gas, and everything in the bed. If you had a slide-in cabover pickup camper, the GVWR would be an important figure for you since those campers sit in the bed of the truck. The F-350 GVWR is 9900 pounds compared to 8800 for the F-250. The GVWR for the F-350 dually is 11,200.
For trailer towing, either truck will work for you. As far as resale, I had always heard that the 3/4 ton trucks were more popular than the 1 tons, but I could be wrong.
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