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The LT model is nice, but the LS model is less expensive and just as nice. The Bose system on the LT is not all it is cracked up to be, and the only thing I prefer on the LT is leather seats. The power seats, on-star, 6 disc cd, and a few other items are just added goodies most people can do without. My wife is 5' 0" tall. I am 6'1" tall. I have to manually adjust the seats and mirrors every time I get in the truck, and had to think about the price tag on getting the seat position memory that the Trailblazer offers. It was not worth it.
I guess what I am trying to say is luxury sometimes has to be pushed aside and common sense needs to be used.
I got my LS Ext with a V-8 for $23,800. Without the V-8 it would have been $1,200 less. I put nothing down on it. I pay $490 a month with 60 payments. (4.26% interest) My budget was $500 a month on a truck. If you put $3,000 down, get $5,000 in rebates, you could easily get an LS model down to $22,000 or less. The dealer you are working with is going to push the smart buy because they make money on the deal. You should be able to buy at invoice, and get the rebates on top of that. Get financing before you go, so that you don't have to use the dealers financing.
I am telling you, 2004 models will be even cheaper in the coming months when the dealers are clearing out for 2005 models.
I bought only because the deal was right, and I got what I wanted. Check with several dealers (if you can) and when they get in your price range, buy. If you have a vehicle that works, and you are not desperate, patience will pay off. If not, you can always lease.
I check the board at work all the time. I love my TB, so if you get another offer, and are unsure, just ask. Someone here will let you know if it is worth doing or not.
We're trying to estimate lease payments for a 2004 Chevy Trailblazer. We have the residual % and lease factor. However, to get a more accurate estimate we also need to know what, if any, other lease costs GMAC charges. Does anyone know if there is an aquistion fee or security deposit for GMAC leases?
Thanks in advance!
Financing can be had at credit unions and other banks. Shop around for financing. I got 4.26% at a credit union for 60 months in July. If you have your financing already laid out, you might get better rebates and financing through GM.
around $20K, so you may sell by yourself better
than sell to dealer. I am waiting for to but a new TB EXT 2004 or 2005, I know a lot of dealer
is very tricky, also I have to let you know TB EXT 2005 with leather seat, on star, first and second row seat with 8 way power seat MSP $ 385K.. and GM discount $1650 and dealer discount
final sell price $32900, without negotiate the price. so I am waiting for labor day or after labor day, because I do not think they can sell all, thinking about this GM made a lot of same cat, chevrolet, ISUZU ( Assender), Builk(Rainier), Oldsmobile, GMC all the same type, also stock market is very bad, and oil price is up, consumer does not have that much to buy that
4x4 car GM try to let consumer to finance but don't forget after 60 months you will pay $10K to $ 20K more then cash price, I will suggest negotiate cash price and finace form bank because they always have low rate than dealer.
J
First off congratulations on being on Edmunds. It is your first step to not getting screwed at the dealership.
My wife and I were just starting out and really wanted a Durango. Make and Model could be anything, but we spent hours getting their "Monthly Payment" down. We were so worn out we didn't even really think about things like residual payment, buy out, and what the actual percentage rate was on the lease.
Lets just say we love our car but we are in the 11% range, and have a balloon payment of 17,000 due in a year. Normal residual should have been around 12,000.00. We basically got screwed because we didn't know what we were getting our selves into. Let me just say this. Never ever talk about monthly payment. I don't care if you finance through them. I don't care if you pay cash. Just talk about selling price with fees included. Talk like you want to pay cash. They will be eager to drop the price. Your best bet if you can get it is to finance through your local credit union or bank. Then buy it out right although right now 2004 deals through Chevy offer 6K cash back or 1.9% for 72 months. Not bad, except get them to agree on the price first then talk about finance. That way they can't just slip the 6k back to you as though it was their selling price. In the end for the Durango we payed full asking price for a 2000 model. It isn't bad, but I am kicking my self at the lack of education. Now I just want to dump it and get a Trail Blazer of Explorer. I am not sure which is better. Although the interior of the Chevy seems nicer than the Explorer, but not Quite as nice as the Envoy or Mountaineer, which are just souped up versions of the previously mentioned vehicles. Just think of it this way. Leasing is like renting a car and then you dump it and start over. If you plan on wanting it longer than 3 years then buy it.
Just picked up an 04 Sandstone LT with moonroof. I live in NY, so northeast discounts apply.
Sticker price : $34,305.
Dealer Discount : - $3000.00
Manager "play money": - (3) @ $500.00
Rebate and GMAC loan: - $6,000
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price before tax : $23,805.
This deal actually cost the dealer $495. but they wanted to beat out another Chevy dealer. Also, there are higher GM Card allowances for 04 models, the TB allowed $2250 off...Finance rate was a bit high at 6.9%...
Good luck.
MSRP is $36,300.
The following is the breakdown of the details:
The dealer took off almost $10,000 discount
It had a few hail dents on the hood but not any on four doors.
several small dents on the roof but you cannot see that
also including $4,000 GM manufacturer rebate
$500 conquest rebate.
I had $4,100 GM credit card
including $3,500 accumulated for seven years
and $600 bonus GM gave me as incentive.
I also had Citibank driver edge credit card
which gave me $1,500.
It had memory seats, six CD player, heated leather seats
two zone automatic temperature control, automatic screen wiper,
On-Star, driver information system, dual control button on steering wheel.
The price I paid was $20,700 before TT&L.
One week after I bought my TB EXT, GM offered some
more rebate such On-Star rebate. I missed that chance
around another $1,000.
I put more than 20K miles on that.
I have had several minor problems so far.
Item 1) Tailgate light was flooded at 3,000 miles.
The whole light housing was changed within thirty minutes at service dept.
Item 2) gear handle came off.
Item 3) back license panel gasket was not properly
installed. These two items were fixed at dealer within one hour.
Item 4) whole front bumper was disfigured very slightly.
it was completely changed with a new one.
It took dealer three days to finish that job.
And I was offered an Envoy as a rental car for three days.
Now it looks perfect.
Item 5) passenger side strut is slightly leaking. not fixed yet.
I am waiting for something that might show up to have them
fixed together at one trip. It is not urgent.
Item 6) the shift between the first gear and the second gear
is not very smooth as I expected and you can feel it very reluctant to switch it
forward and backward. So now the acceleration is not good
enough and on the other hand when it is coasting on idle
it is very reluctant to shift back to the first gear. So that
it will stay around 1100 to 900 RPM at the of 30 miles.
The real idle rpm when it is at stop either at parking or idle driving
is around 600 rpm. Now it is wasting around 5 percent of gas
because the most of the mileage I drive is local and have a lot
of stops and goes. I have talked to two dealers
and had it checked and was told 'no problem. the other
Trailblazers also behave in the same way'.
I have test-driven several TBs and Envoys before and after
my purchase and found them behaving much better than
mine. All I have test-driven are regular not extended version.
Actually or ironically I did not test drive my vehicle before
I bought it, because I thought they should be the same.
Now I know there might be and will be some differences
between each individual unit even though they are mass
manufactured on the same assembly line by same kind of
workers and by same kind of parts.
I feel extremely happy with the whole deal including the price,
its whole design, all those luxury features and warranty service,
because nobody would and could give me such a deal.
With all those features, Toyota Sequoia or Acura MDX
(both have the third row) will cost around $40,000.
Will they give any discount from MSRP? Probably
one thousand dollar. That is it.
Have All those minor problems bothered me? Not at all.
On the contrary, I am really amazed to find actually the
vehicle has so few minor problems considering it has
more than thirty thousand parts.
Could you say more on that Citibank driver edge credit card $1500 and the on star $1000 rebate?
How did you look for all these rebates?
Thanks in advance.
Citibank driver edge credit card
800 967 8500
gives you back 2% on all your purchase.
$500 max a year but max you can claim is
$1500 for one vehicle. But it can combine
with GM card and you can buy any car of
brand and of any model even used.
After you buy a car, you just fax Citibank
your vehicle invoice in sixty days, you will send a check of whatever you have accumulated up to $1500 per vehicle. Actually I accumulated more
than $1500.
Onstar rebate is just promotion from GM.
You need to watch for it. It is not always on.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Still thinkinng about it.
i need to know where you're looking. i cant find a darn dealer to help me out at all like that. I need to find an EXT model with all of that. I saw an EXT loaded w/out leather, xm and moonroof and still wanted 27000, but becasue I mentioned financing, he put the rebates back in to make it 30,000.
Trailblazer LT, two tone Green over silver, Lux pkg #2, Sun and fun pkg, off road wheels, running boards, side curtain aribags (basically every option but the DVD and Nav). The bottom line on the sticker on the car was EXACTLY the same as the one I saw the other night.
Talked to the sales mgr about why the difference in price and he took me through it step by step, he said that basically, the option pkgs and the discounts make the difference. If I understood correctly, the silve rone I looked at had a discount on the window sticker due to option packages of $2700+; the one I bought had on the window sticker a discount due to option packages of about $1300 or so. He said that basically comes off the employee purchase price and that $1400 difference is the difference in the price.
The guy was great about it, even though I broke his shoes by playing stupid and saying "Well I am just a layman and to me if the bottom line on the window stickers is the same, the payment is the same"...he said he couldn't do anything because under the program the price is the price, so he threw in 5 free oil changes. Hey, I took it, something is better then nothing.
email me if you want the dealer info I'll be more then happy to let you know. It is a small dealership, but they are really helpful. I wasn;t interested in the EXT, so I don't know what they were pricing out at, but I imagine pretty close. They did have an EXT on their showroom floor, an it was pretty loaded (I think an LS) with an out the door place. of $26,500. I haave to go to the dealer this afternoon for something, I will check it out for you and get the details.
'Thanks in advance!
I have come across a 2002 Trailblazer LT.. Leather seats, Fully Loaded etc with only 18000 original miles on it. An old lady is selling it as it used to be her deceased husbands car. Its been garaged for over 2 years and has only been used a few times... Its absolutely like brand new... Problem is im not sure what to offer for it... We were thinking of 15000... It might even have some warranty left on it...Does this sound like a good deal??
The price I was quoted with the smartbuy is $21527 +TTL. This is an LS with the Sun, Sound and Entertainment package.
Has anyone had any dealings with the smartbuy program? Taking the additional $2500 off would really help me a lot but I'm nervous about this because I haven't done this type of a purchase before. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
My father likes to buy cars outright - cash only. When he got his Deville, he was going to pay cash, but when he talked to the sales manager (a family friend), he was basically told the same thing you were - finance it throuh SmartBuy, take advantage of the additional discounts available and then pay it off. Which is what he did.
I don't know where you live, but in NY where I live, because of new legislation you can't lease, but you can do SmartBuy. In essence, it is the same thing for us except the title is in your name, and it is much less restrictive there are mile restrictions though 12 or 15 thousand per year. At the end of the 48 months you can either give the car back or pay the balloon payment.
Email me if I can help explain this further or help with any questions. I am certainly not the expert, but I have done this a couple of times.
Regarding refinancing, do you happen to know how long your Dad waited until he paid it off and was there any kind of a penalty? My salesman talked like I could turn around and refinance as soon as I made my first payment.
By the way, I live in Texas so we are still able to lease and Smartbuy. The mile restrictions appear to be the same as they are in New York. I'm glad to hear that you have been happy with the program for future reference.
Thanks again for your help. I've been researching the Trailblazer and I really thing I'm going to like it.
Good luck with the TrailBlazer, I pick up mine tomorrow, I cannot wait.
Fully laoded, everything except a DVD player, what would I need it for, no kids. 900 miles, GM drove for a few weeks. 31000 purchase price, due to the DEMO status, I got a 75,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty w.a $50 deductible for $900.00 financed. 72 month term 606/month. 35K out the door. This is Envoys creme de la creme.
Could someone that has used Smartbuy please provide a lease/Smartbuy comparison or let me know why you chose Smartbuy rather than a lease?
Thanks in advance!
When I used to lease, in NY anyway, the title would be in the leasing company's name and they would hold the title. With SmartBuy, the title is in your name and you hold it as you would with financing. Leases also typically require some sort of cap cost reduction up front. To me, they seem very similar. I have been leasing since 1992 and SmartBuy customer since it started in NY about 3 years ago.
thanks in advance
You might ask in our Questions About Financing New Vehicles discussion as well.
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locomo - are you sure that the price of $26,935 is before the rebate? If you check on the GM website the employee price for an Envoy XUV with an MSRP of $33,280 is $26,755 and it says that includes all incentives (which I take to mean rebates).
Yes. This is in the Mid-South region.
The guy I talked to on the phone said the price was the same as posted on the web, $26,935.
I then asked if he'd go lower since I had to drive 200 miles to get it.
He then told me about the $2500 rebate which would make it $24,435 +$270doc +TTL
He wouldn't waive the doc fee, so I told him I'd think about it.
My brother in Pennsylvania was trying to buy a GMC for a graduation present for his daughter.
They wouldn't do the rebate AND employee pricing for him. This is contary to what's on the GM website, so he went elsewhere(non-GM).
http://www.gmc.com/currentoffers/index.jsp?brand=&pageName=home&location=tnav&originatingB- rand=divisional
I think I received a great deal. I purchased the SUV in June before the employee discount was extended but I also shopped several quotes from dealer to dealer.