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EJ-JBL stereo system
HD -Heated seats
LA -Leather seats
RL-Daytime running lights
MF-Mud guards
SR-Moonroof
TO -Tow Prep Pkg
CF-R 5 PIECE CAR MATS AND CARGO MATS
Invoice Price: $28,631.00
You should get at approx. $1400 or more off that price now.
Good Luck
Still in the email quoting stage but so far got the following on the 2 cars:
08 RAV4 Sport 4WD 6cyl 5A (Black)
w/ Moonroof (SR), AM/FM/6CD (DJ), Carpet Mats (CF), Tow Prep (TO), Tonneau Cover (CD), Daytime Running (RL).
MSRP is $28,774, Invoice $26,025, TMV $26,953.
Best offer is $26,390 + tax/tags.
08 RAV4 Limited 4WD 6cyl 5A (Black)
w/ Leather (LA), Moonroof (SR), JBL AM/FM/6CD (EJ), Heated Seats (HD), Tow Prep (TO), Daytime Running (RL)
MSRP is $31,045, invoice $27,929, TMV $28,979
Best offer is $28,431 + tax/tags
Obviously I am going to try and get their best offer down. I would guess dealers are wanting to get the 08s out as from the sticker sheet the lady from my dealership sent me said the Sport got in on July 15th and the Limited on June 6th! :surprise:
Anyne have any suggestions? When I got my Accord and Civic, the deals have been 11% off MSRP both times. 11% off the Limited would bring $27,630, and 11% off the Sport would be $25,609. Those seem like good numbers; but given the state of the economy I would guess I can try for more? What do you all think?
you get, I'll do the same. Good Luck
Could you tell me where you got this from asap? Did that include any rebate? That's what I'm trying to deal on. I got 27,676+tx but that is with a 1000$ rebate instead of financing.
Thanks!
See my post #2336 from last week regarding the details of my recent purchase on a V6 4x4 Sport. Here are the quicj financials from my transaction.
MSRP:$29644
Invoice: $27082
Paid: $25500 (including $1000 rebate & excluding TTL)
Total discount: $4144 (13.98%)
Amount below invoice: $582
You did not indicate if your offers included the rebate. If so, their price is way too high IMO. My vehicle also has the higher end (EJ) JBL radio and (WL) wheel locks which accounts for an additional $569 at invoice pricing.
Fitzgerald Motors (Maryland) has a black Sport in stock with a 'no haggle' price of $25426 with the upgraded EJ radio. Here is the link to this vehicle on their website
http://www.fitzmall.com/fitzway/carfind/RESULTSB.ASP?V_XREFID=FTOT049081:2008-08- -22T23:09:38.473
I used thr Fitzgerald pricing as leverage during my negotiations.
I used the Fitzgerald site t et leverage and here is a quote from a local dealer
2008 RAV-4 LIMITED 4X4 V6 MODEL# 4453 W/ FE EJ HD LA RL SR TO CF MF MSRP 31,033.00 INVOICE 28,275.00 LESS 300.00 SELLING PRICE $ 27,975.00 PLUS TAX 2,342.90 = 30,317.90 AND DMV 227.50 NEW PLATE FEES = 30,545.40 , LESS 500.00
CASH BACK $ 30,045.40 OUT THE DOOR.
If you remove the tax from the OUT THE DOOR price car costs $27,703 LOADED.This is from a dealer that originally started out at $1000 off a MSRP of 31,033.00 and said that was the best he could do LOL
You gotta negogiate harder,
You should be able to get 11% off your MSRP if you want to use that standard
price 27,691
tax 2275.28
fees 67.50
tot: 30,033.78 otd plus tag and license another 200
What should I go back with??
Fitz was about 400$ less so far. Their rebate is 1000 so that accounts for 250 of it (but not exact car color I want)
Any help appreciated....thanks!
Whats the $67.50 for and $ 200 for TTL seems steep. Someone else who has bought jump in here and help. I think if you are going to accept the $67.50 and $200 tell them to split the $400 difference at LEAST , so bottom line $200 more off the price . (MINIMUM)
Options:
+ 6Disc player
+Tonneau Cover
+ Daytime running lights +
+Moonroof
+Carpet Floor mats/Cargo Mat
$25k + TTL w/ 0% APR 36 mo
Dealer originally wanted $26,774 but gave $1k "rebate" for $25,774. I negotiated down to $25k, dealer wanted $25,200. I stood firm and dealer gave in to $25k. Checked 2nd closest dealer and they offered $24,920 (slap in the face). Did we get a decent deal? Wonder how low we could have gone.
Grossinger was the first to guarantee me delivery on the day I wanted it.
I got pre-negotiated pricing from my Costco membership (which guaranteed me the invoice price), then shopped that price with the internet managers at a number of dealerships. That's how I got under the invoice price - even on a rare car like the third row RAV4. Actually the internet manager misquoted me the price on the car (did not add the 6 CD changer price) and ended up giving me the feature for free. I think I was $700 under invoice.
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Couple questions:
1. Does anyone know how long this 0% financing is going to last?
2. Will toyota lower prices after thanksgiving/b4 christmas?
3. How much money below invoice will a dealer go?
4. Will I get a better deal outside of NY?
Have you read any of the past posts from different areas in the country?
2008 Rav4 Base model 2-wheel drive with standard option package. MSRP $23004
If the dealer offer $20200 + 0% 36 month (+ Tax+ Doc fee + Title + Registration), is it the best offer?
Also, Documentation Fee is ~$300. Is it reasonable? Someone said that they refused to pay the Doc Fee. Is it possible not pay it?
Many thanks in advance for your suggestions!!
http://www.fitzmall.com/fitzway/carfind/resultsa.asp
Enter your region, new car, model etc etc and read the caveats they have posted thruout their site.Very informative plus go back apage or two and read what others have mentioned.
This applies to soapturtles ? also who should be hopefully reading all these posts also
I am planning to get my first car a Rav4 V6 Sport 2WD in Oct or Nov. I was qouted an out the door price for 2008 of $27,800 ($25K including tax and fees) but not in the color i wanted. So I was thinking of waiting for 2009 Rav4 instead. I don't mind paying about $1000 more.
I checked the prices online on local dealers website and all the 2009 RAV4 Sport V6 have MSRP prices over $29K with tax and fee the price will be over $30K! That a big difference to 2008. I thought the MSRP for a Rav4 V6 sport was $25K. Am I missing something?
Should I get the 2008 or wait for 2009. I was hoping to get the Rav4 2009 for around $28K.
Got an internet offer of $25,987.47 + TTL for 2008 2WD 4CYL RAV4 Limited Black. How much you guys think I should aim for ?
Options:
50 State Emissions
Daytime Running Lights
Fabric-Trimmed 50/50 Split & Stow 3rd
Row Seat that Folds Flat, Height
Adjustable Headrests, and Two Cup Holde
(2nd Row Seat Includes a Walk-In-System
to Gain Access to 3rd Row) (Hill-Start
Assist Control, Downhill Assist Control
& Rear Stabilizer Bar, Included w/3rd R
Seat) (Deletes Cargo Area Tonneau Cover
with Multipurpose Cargo Net with Suppor
Poles, Cargo Area 2nd Row Seat One Touc
Fold Flat Lever, and Rear Deck Cargo
Foldable Deck Board)
Stainless Steel Exhaust Tip
Window Tint
The Extra Mile Option Package D
Carpet Mat Set
Carpet Floor Mats
Rear Cargo Mat
Cargo Net
First Aid Kit
Fabric Guard
Nightvision Mirror Upgrade
Mud Guards
Body Side Molding
Custom Tape Stripe
Molded Dash Applique
Wheel Locks
No Charge Extra Mile Benefits
Extra Mile Service Rewards Program
(5 years / 60,000 miles)
Roadside Assistance
(3 years / 36,000 miles)
Rear Bumper Protector
Standard options
MECHANICAL & PERFORMANCE
2.4 Liter DOHC 4CYL Engine w/VVT-i
4 Speed ECT Auto Trans/Fr Whl Drive/4
Whl Ind Susp/Elec Pwr Steering System
Front Stabilizer Bar/4-Whl Disc Brakes
17" 6-Spk Alloy Whls w/P225/65R17 Tires
& Full Size Spare Tire on 17" Stl Whl
SAFETY
Star Safety System Includes:
Vehicle Stability Ctrl w/Traction Ctrl
Anti-Lock Brakes w/Brake Assist & EBD
Dr & Fr Pass Advanced Fr Airbags (SRS)
Dr & Fr Pass Seat Mounted Side/Fr & 2nd
Row Roll-Sensing Side Curtain Airbags
3Pt Seat Belts in All Locations
2nd Row CRS Lower & Top Tether Anchors
Rr Dr Child Safty Locks/Eng Imob & Prwre
Direct Tire Pressure Monitoring System
EXTERIOR
UV Reduction Glass Wndshld/Rr Priv Glass
Clr-Kyd Bmprs,Rr Spoiler,Dr Handles,Pwr
Htd O/S Mirrs,Spare Tire Cvr/Chrme Grll
Blck Rf Rack/Mlti-Rflctr Halogn Auto-Off
Hdlmps/Fr Var & Rr IntWipers/Mas Antena
LED Tail & Stop Lamps/Fog Lamps
COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE
Dual Zone A/C w/Clean Air Fltration &
Micro Dust/Pollen Removal/Info Display
AM/FM CD 6-Disc In-Dash CD Chgr w/6 Spks
Mn-Plg/Man Tlt/Tlscpc Lthr Strg Aud Ctls
Cloth Int, / Pwr-Adj Dr / Man Adj Pass
2nd Rw 60/40 Splt,Reclne,Fld Flt w/Slide
Fwrd Cpblty w/Ctr Armrst, 2 Cup Holders
Dual Glove Box/Digital Clock/Cruise Ctrl
Power Windows/Door Locks/Keyless Entry
Optitron IP Gauges / Gated Shifter
2 Fr/1 Cargo Auxiliary 12V Power Outlets
Rr Crg Area 2nd Rw Seat 1 Tch Fld Flt Lv
Ctr Cnsl w/2-Illum Cup Hldrs, Cell Phone
Storage,Upper Storage Tray, & Cnsole Box
Tneau Cvr w/Mlti-Prpose Net & Suprt Pole
Rr Cargo Storage w/Undr Flr Storage Spce
Svisr w/Ext & Ilum Van Mir/Slver Int Trm
I think will get the Rav4 2008. The 2009 too expensive. A friend of mind say expect to pay $4-5K more as you can't get discount on 2009 at this time.
There have been many refernces to Fitzgerald Motors
here is a link
http://www.fitzmall.com/fitzway/carfind/resultsa.asp
They are discounting 2009 models by $2300 today.
Have you even bothered to look for Gods sake.
Stop listening to youtr friends and do some reading
Here is an example
Internet Price: $24,759.00
Value Price: $25,128.00
Invoice Price: $25,128.00
MSRP: $27,084.00
Style: 4WD 4dr 4-cyl 4-
Thats a 2009 in stock today price
READ READ READ and learn if you REALLY want to save $$
LA (Leather Seats)
HD (Heated Seats)
JR (Moonroof)
EJ (JBL 6CD Changer)
CF (Carpet Floor Mats)
TO (Tow Prep)
RL (Daytime Running Lights)
MSRP is $31,244.00
Invoice is $28,055.00
Original Offer was $28,431.00 from a preferred dealer, got down to $28,000.00 with a quote from another dealer. Preferred dealer than gave me quote of $27,990 (such a miniscule discount), second dealer got to $27,655 (30+ miles away) and preferred dealer matched plus 4 free oil changes.
Paid $27,655 ($400 under invoice) and took advantage of the 0% financing for 36month.
Congrats on the new car! hope you enjoy it
My price was without the rebate and I went for the financing offer because I was and still am under the impression it is an either/or offer, not combined.
My price was + taxes/tags/doc, yes.
Go for $27,651 up to $28,000 before rebate and then go for 0% for 36.
destination charge, tda, dealer holdback, whsl. financial reserve. i have and invoice price of 27,200 for v6 loaded (no nav). the dealer told me that those charges were not negotiable. i just want to make sure. thanks
Thanks.
You really need to post the specifics of the Limited in order to receive an informed reply. That being said, if the MSRP is $30,600 or higher I would say that your deal looks pretty good and is comparable to the deal I struck on my '08 Sport in the beginning of October. That is assuming that you have no rebate. See post #2336 for the details on my transaction.
From what I have read as of late it seems that some folks are getting both 0% and rebate together. I don't know if that specific to only certain markets in the U.S. You may want to check ino this further.
1. Know the invoice
2. Can I safely assume the holdback is 2% of the invoice
3. Can I safely assume the financial reserve is 1% of the invoice
4. The only fees I should be paying for are the taxes/DMV fees - title & registration - anything else?
5. Anything else?
2. Holdback is 2% of the Base MSRP cost (not the RAV4 base model but the base charge for the Limited. Again you get this from Edmunds. They show base model price of $27070. 2% = $541
3. Financial Reserve is 1% of the Base MSRP cost which = $271
4. These are the only additioanl items that I paid for.
5. My purchase was from Independence Toyota (Hazelton, PA). Also had a dealer in Reading, PA (Performance Toyota) with a very similar offer on identical car. There are a lot of these cars out there. Go the Toyota website & search dealers by your zip code. Just about everyone lists their new vehicle inventory
Good Luck. Hope I just saved you some money!!
Is Toyota scaling back production to just bare bones models?
I'm thinking that i should negotiate the deal without the extras added on. Does anyone have any idea what a reasonable offer would be?
I've been looking for a used RAV4. I got them down to $21750 including doc fee (he says required in our state by law) but not taxes or registration. He listed it at $23750. It's the 2007 RAV4 Limited fully tricked out with only 14,190 miles on it. Trying to decide on this or a 2009 or 2008 v6 limited one - someone said they got theirs down to $26570 or something. Keep in mind the features below are standard but also include the extras (like bluetooth that comes with the JBL speakers). It also has a clean carfax and autocheck record. Doesn't have NAVI is about it. He even said it has towing package parts. THere's no major cosmetic defects or rust either. Here's this deal:
Exterior
Aerodynamic multi-reflector halogen headlamps w/auto-off
Black roof rails w/cross bars
Chrome grille
Color-keyed bumpers
Color-keyed door handles
Color-keyed hard shell spare tire cover
Color-keyed heated foldable pwr mirrors
Color-keyed rear spoiler w/stop lamp
FOG LIGHTS
High Solar Energy-Absorbing glass
Intermittent rear wiper
LED rear lamps
Rear privacy glass
Side-opening rear door w/hold-open feature
Washer-linked variable intermittent windshield wipers
Interior
(10) cup/bottle holders
(3) 12V auxiliary pwr outlets
60/40 split fabric-trimmed rear bench w/slide/recline function, 1-touch fold-flat lever, height-adjustable headrest, center armrest
AM/FM stereo w/6-disc in-dash CD changer-inc: MP3/WMA capability, aux input jack, (6) speakers
Amber-illuminated Optitron instrument cluster-inc: speedometer, tachometer, fuel gauge, LCD odometer w/(2) tripmeters
Cargo area storage pockets in wheel housing w/(2) cupholders
Cruise control w/brake deceleration feature
Digital clock
Direct tire pressure monitor system
Door panel storage pockets, bottle holders
Dual glove boxes w/upper box one-push open/close
Dual visor vanity mirrors w/sliding extensions, roof-mounted vanity light
Dual-zone automatic air conditioning w/air filtration, information display, micro dust/pollen removal capability
Engine Immobilizer
Fabric-trimmed 8-way pwr driver/4-way manual passenger seats-inc: pwr driver lumbar support, height adjustment, seatback pockets
Fender-mounted mast antenna
Illuminated entry-inc: key illumination, interior light, front map light
Interior footwell lighting
Leather-wrapped shift knob w/metallic insert, gated shifter
Leather-wrapped tilt/telescoping steering wheel w/audio controls
Multi-function center console-inc: (2) illuminated cupholders, storage box, cell phone storage pocket
Outside temp gauge
Pwr door locks
Pwr windows w/driver-side auto up/down & jam protection
Rear deck storage-inc: water-repellant foldable deck board
Rear window defogger w/timer
Remote hood/fuel filler door releases
Remote keyless entry
Tonneau cover w/cargo net
Mechanical
17" x 7.0 6-spoke aluminum wheels
3.5L DOHC SFI 24-valve dual VVT-i V6 engine
5-speed ECT automatic transmission
Anti-lock brake system (ABS) w/brake assist
Double-wishbone rear suspension w/coil springs
Downhill assist control (DAC)
Electric pwr rack & pinion steering
Electronic brakeforce distribution (EBD)
Front/rear stabilizer bars
Full-size spare tire
Hill start assist control (HAC)
Independent Macpherson strut front suspension
On-demand 4-wheel drive
P225/65R17 all-season tires
Pwr vented front/rear solid disc brakes
Traction control (TRAC)
Vehicle stability control (VSC)
Safety
3-point seat belts for all seating positions w/adjustable front seatbelt anchors
Anti-lock brake system (ABS) w/brake assist
Child protector rear door locks
Child restraint system (ISOFIX CRS) top tether anchors for all rear seating positions
Collapsible steering column
Driver/front passenger advanced airbag system
Driver/front passenger front seat-mounted side airbags
Drivers emergency locking retractor (ELR) seatbelt
Front & 2nd row roll-sensing side curtain airbags
Front crumple zone
Passengers automatic locking retractor (ALR) & emergency locking retractor (ELR) seatbelts
Side impact door beams
Traction control (TRAC)
Vehicle stability control (VSC)
Brakes
Brake ABS System: 4-Wheel
Brake Type: Pwr
Disc - Front (Yes or ): Yes
Disc - Rear (Yes or ): Yes
Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in): 11.8 x
Rear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness (in): 11.2 x
Cargo Area Dimensions
Cargo Volume to Seat 1 (ft³): 73.0
Cargo Volume to Seat 2 (ft³): 36.4
Cooling System
Total Cooling System Capacity (qts): 9.6
Engine
Displacement: 3.5L/216
Engine Type: Gas V6
Fuel System: SFI
SAE Net Horsepower RPM: 269 6200
SAE Net Torque RPM: 246 4700
Exterior Dimensions
Height, Overall (in): 66.3
Length, Overall (in): 181.1
Min Ground Clearance (in): 7.5
Tread Width, Front (in): 61.4
Tread Width, Rear (in): 61.4
Wheelbase (in): 104.7
Width, Max w/o mirrors (in): 71.5
Fuel Tank
Fuel Tank Capacity, Approx (gal): 15.9
Interior Dimensions
Front Head Room (in): 40.8
Front Hip Room (in): 53.8
Front Leg Room (in): 41.8
Front Shoulder Room (in): 57.1
Passenger Capacity: 5
Passenger Volume (ft³): 108.2
Second Head Room (in): 39.7
Second Hip Room (in): 52.4
Second Leg Room (in): 38.3
Second Shoulder Room (in): 55.3
Mileage
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG): 21
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG): 28
Steering
Lock to Lock Turns (Steering): 2.7
Steering Ratio (:1), Overall: 14.6
Steering Type: Pwr Rack & Pinion
Turning Diameter - Curb to Curb (ft): 34.8
Summary
Body Style: 4 Door
Vehicle Name: RAV4
Suspension
Stabilizer Bar Diameter - Front (in): 0.95
Suspension Type - Front: MacPherson Strut
Suspension Type - Front (Cont.): w/Stabilizer bar
Suspension Type - Rear: Double-Wishbone
Suspension Type - Rear (Cont.): w/Stabilizer bar
Tires
Front Tire Size: P225/65R17
Rear Tire Size: P225/65R17
Spare Tire Size: P225/65R17
Trailering
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 200
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 2000
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. (lbs): 200
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. (lbs): 2000
Transmission
Drivetrain: 4-Wheel Drive
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.76
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1): 3.08
First Gear Ratio (:1): 4.24
Fourth Gear Rato (:1): 1.05
Reverse Ratio (:1): 3.38
Second Gear Ratio (:1): 2.36
Third Gear Ratio (:1): 1.52
Trans Description Cont.: Automatic w/OD
Trans Type: 5
Vehicle
EPA Classification: Sport Utility Vehicle
Weight Information
Base Curb Weight (lbs): 3675
Wheels
Front Wheel Material: Aluminum
Front Wheel Size (in): 17 x 7.0
Rear Wheel Material: Aluminum
Rear Wheel Size (in): 17 x 7.0
Spare Wheel Size (in): 17 x 7.0