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I just used Edmunds.com's Loan Calculator, and input the invoice price of $18,151. I put $0 for the tax, and for 60 months, came up with $349/month. Even at a 0% financing rate, it's $307/month. At that price, there's no way to go below $300/month without extending financing out to at least 72 months.
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I've got a lot of help from the CR-V forum, so I post this info for the future buyer.
2005 RAV4 AWD auto.
Options:FE,GY(Side airbags),CD,KE,SR(Sunroof)
,PG,AW(alloy wheels),RF,MA,SP(Sport Package),DK
Mileage: 9
MSRP: 25,215
invoice: 23,077
paid: 22,177+100+tag+tax
No incentive from the factory.
The dealer offered 4.3% APR with Gap, but I rejected it because they used a tricky loan calculator program. The monthly payment he showed was different from the amount I precalculated. When he used the back button, he showed what I expected. Why did he push the enter key one more? I could't believe them, so I brought the credit union check(3.9% APR) the next day.
I think July or August deal was better than this deal because there was $750 factory rebate at that time.
It was an internet deal and good experience.
roof rack
privacy glass
keyless entry
mudguard
floor/cargo carpet
cargo net
exhaust tip by valor
msrp $22840
took the $500 march rebate and dealer 4.9% apr for 36 months
paid $19,500 + TTL
you think that is still too high?
thanks
Your Dec04 purchase is *exactly* the car I need, and your deal was great.
Probably you already know, but finding side airbags on RAV4 is such a problem.
Did you start with Internet site, if so which one? Which dealer did you end up with? I will fly there and drive it back :-)
Thanks for your advice.
-Jeff
Thanks!
Mylissa
For example, on edmunds, run a RAV4 with rear privacy windows and side curtain airbags, and the invoice price is $19,733.
Ask a Texas Toyota dealer, and they say it's $20,402 (at least).
Dealing over the phone, I asked him to itemize the invoice, and he gave me fees like:
port option, 287
tx dealer association fees - $230
manufacturer association fund, $281
2% hold back, $392
port and installation option holdback - $26
finance reserve - $196
Same in person, they said invoice was $20,610.
TMV shows $20,488 average in my zip code (76706).
I haven't seen anything like this anywhere. Honda showed me their invoice, and it was exactly as Edmund's said.
Thoughts...experiences?
Thanks,
Chris P. Jones
christopherpatrick@mac.com
thanks!
I sent emails to about 15 Toyota dealerships in DC metro area(Maryland, DC, and Virginia), but, I realized that other dealers could not beat the Darcars.
Sometimes, there was a special deal at the end of the month.
When I contacted 355 and Silver Spring Toyota by email, I received 200 coupon at the end of the month.
http://toyotass.darcars.com/New-Inventory.aspx?InventoryId=1569243
(I don't like this color, it's too hot in summer. but the same options.)
Search their inventory, and good luck!
More complicated question. Since you appear to be a resident of Kentucky . . . how do you buy a car in Florida and get Kentucky tags on it and pay Kentucky taxes, etc. I live in Florida and I would like to buy a car in California since I will be visiting there for about 12 weeks and then would drive back to Florida. How do I make this hapopen in a way that I get Florida tags on the car and avoid paying fees, taxes, etc in two states?
thank you SOOOOO much, you saved me 1700. This past weekend we drove from Connecticut to Mariland to Darcars dealership in Silver Spring to get a 4wd Rav4 with option package D as configured on Toyota Web site (which is basically: L package, side airbags, keyless entry, allow wheels, Roof rack, mud flaps, and some other stuff).
Darcars web price was 20,907 (invoice 22407, msrp 24385). So just like that for 1500 under invoice!!! Local dealers were making fun of me, they said this price was impossible. The closest price locally was 22608.
I half expected some kind of bait and switch or someother screwup that would have cost me the deal. But the entire experience was PERFECT. They gave me the VIN # over the phone, no deposit, just come down and buy the car. I even called TOYOTA to verify that the VIN of the car had all the package options they advertised, they confirmed that fact. Car was already prepped by the time we arrive (per agreement), so I signed all the necessary papers and that was it. To top it off they are open on sunday, none of the CT dealers are usually open. We did not pay tax or registration, just Doc fee (100) and Temporary Registration ($15) which is good for 60 days.
The only downside to the deal was the long drive.
This forum RULEZ
Is it from Toyota? or dealers?
I am looking to buy a
2005 RAV4 2WD 4-speed in titanium metallic w/ dark charcoal leather interior
the options are as follows:
GYAT - curtain & side airbags - $680 msrp
LAAT - leather trimmed seats - $670 msrp
UPAT - upgrade L package - $1030 msrp
AWAT - 16" 5-spoke alloy wheels - $400 msrp
According to their website, the MSRP value is $23,185 broken as follows:
base ....................................... $19,800
options..................................... $2,790
delivery, process and handling.... $595
I was quoted a "low internet price" of $21351 plus tax and tag with the rebate included. The out-the-door price w/ tax and everything is $22,901.
Can anyone assist in analyzing this? THANKS!!!!
What is the rebate in your area? Can't tell what actual selling price you're getting unless we know. Seems as though it's a pretty good deal from what I can see though.
Ken
1) Does EVERY factory installed Toyota keyless entry have the Toyota logo on it?
2) Everyone go check their tires. What BRAND of tires comes on a RAV4?
Answers to these two questions will help me trememdously. Thanks.
On the advice of this forum, we checked out DarCars in Silver Spring and noticed an attractive Internet price. We called the dealer and asked if they honored KBB prices on trade in's, and the salesperson said they would, and to come down to make a deal. So, on the spur of the moment, we were off on a 4 hour (each way) trip.
When we arrived, however, they brought up the KBB value right in front of us and said they couldn't offer us that much, and offered us HALF of the value. HALF! They wouldn't even come close to honoring the price on KBB for a downgraded condition. I think they were trying to take advantage of the fact that we drove 4 hours and didn't think we would want to drive home in our old car.
Again, this was after we were TOTALLY led to believe that the KBB value would be honored. The excuse was that the mileage was too high (84,000) on the car for them to sell - a FACT THAT WE TOLD THE SALESPERSON OVER THE PHONE BEFORE MAKING THE TRIP!
We were very disappointed and I figured it was worth noting on this forum (since I found out about them here) that if you are planning on making a trade, don't count on getting anywhere close to what they tell you over the phone, and be prepared to drive home in your old car!
:lemon:
Thanks...
One tip for a better deal:
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/
I am looking for a 2005 Rav4 automatic, 2wd,...and it seems that dealers in the Dallas, Texas area are asking for prices much higher than what Edmunds indicate.
The lowest qoute I got was $20,000 before TT&L (basic Rav4 with keyless entry & no other options).
Thanks
MSRP: 20,771
Invoice according to the dealership: 19,410
Price I got it for: $19614, however when I went to the finance dept. I got the antitheft device (includes keyless entry) for $495 which I regret because I checked the price of this option on carsdirect.com and it was only $264.
Total price out the door not including TT&L: $20,109
The dealership was first offering me supposedly their Costco price which was $19,911 and I said that price was too high. After some heated discussion, price went down to $19,614. I still don't feel satisfied with the price I paid, I feel I could have gotten a better deal. This was my first time purchasing a car so I take this as an experience to learn from.
Is this a good or bad deal? Please comment and share your opinions. Thanks.
Hope this clarifies things.
Ken