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Greenwich was nice since they had no problem with me bringing the dog in for a test drive in the GX unlike other dealers.
Here's what I got on price so far. Two dealers have said that I can have the GX with third row seats, nav, and rear ent. for $53k (this number includes everything) out the door.
Don’t get me wrong, I think RX is a great SUV too that’s why there’s a RX right next to the GX in our garage.
Any ideas?
I ordered the GX with the 3rd Row Seat/AC, Wind Deflector, Cargo Mat, Wheel Locks package. I paid $46k even plus they game me a great trade on my 2000 Trooper Limited. (Lawrenceville Lexus, Lawrenceville, NJ) I sort of wish I would of ordered with the Nav system as well. I was under the impression that the GX came with the LCD screen regardless of whether or not you ordered the Nav system. (ie Acura MDX) I was mistaken. The GX interion looks much better with the LCD Screen. Although, it was hard to justify the price of the Nav/Levison System. I planned on buying the Garmin Voice Activated GPS for $999 so I am able to move it to any of my 3 vehicles. Like I said, I though it came with the LCD screen regardless. I might have changed my mind if I knew it didn't.
On occasion, not regularly, I have noticed a very slight vibration in the wheel at 1800-2000 rpm. I have also occasionally noticed that "bang" in the breaks / trans while coming to or at a stop. It hasn't gotten to point of bothering me just yet. I have 1300 miles on the truck as of today.
No problems to report just as yet. Some things I think Lexus can do to even better the GX 470 (or give you what I would expect in a $50k truck) would be:
The rear AC system should heat as well as cool and there should be a way to control both from the front console.
The rear cargo windows should be power open and close. They are basically useless in a manual format in which they currently come.
The rear door window should open for quick loading and unloading.
The control rods on the steering column for Lights, Wipers & Cruise etc, should illuminate at night.
They should eliminate the cheap plastic in the rear cargo area. Especially those cheap plastic lids that cover the 3rd row seat brackets. Man they are cheap..!
Come on Lexus, this is a $50k truck. I expect more. My sister's $20k Ford Minivan came with power rear cargo windows and front adjustable rear climate control for God's sake..!
Problem is I can seem to come up with the exact MSRP from any online source. can you ? Maybe this really does include the rear camera and new NAV.
I was told that the GX with rear view camera were on the ground. I will verify this tomorrow.
Base 45,700
Nav/Audio 2,700
Cargo Mat 92
Cargo Net 59
Ent. System 1,560
Hitch Rec'ver 50
Hitch Ball 420
3rd Row 2,030
Spoiler 551
Wheel Lock 81
TOTAL MSRP 53,243
Here are the updated prices on new features:
Navigation/Audio package inclusive of backup camera....MSRP $3050
KDSS....MSRP $1750
(FYI... I was also told that w/ the KDSS option, you will not be able to include the tow package at this time)
Wondering if anyone has received any price quotes inclusive of the new features. Thanks!
As for your quote on the hitch ball above, is it really $420 while the hitch receiver is only $50? This does not look right.
Regarding the MSRP on the tow package, the $50.00 option is for the hitch bracket which "includes the wiring harness, converter, sub-bracket and rear bumper hitch cover with cut-out".
The $420.00 is the ball mount.
As stated, I am not interested in the tow option, so I apologize if any of my tow package info is unclear. The MSRP figures that were quoted is from on-line sources which provide this info.
Maybe someone else may have some input on why no tow package is available w/ KDSS option.
The Mark Levinson audio is AWESOME, by far the best factory system I've ever heard. As the review in Audio Revolution stated, bass is very tight and full. The navigation system is easy to use (especially with the voice commands) and very accurate. With the NAV and ML pkg. costing $2700, it's a steal. BMW makes them separate pkgs. of $2000 and $1200, and they're not nearly as good. And on the Toyota website, the NAV is a $3350 option on the Land Cruiser!
This is purely subjective, but I love the size of the GX, it fits squarely in the midsize range. It has more room than our BMW X5, especially cargo room, yet it's not as big as the LX size SUVs. I think it handles well for that reason. Nothing hangs curves like the X5, but I don't feel like I'm driving a yacht like the Land Cruiser either. I know, some people really like 'em big, just not me.
Minor quibbles: I wish the rear quarter windows and rear cargo window went down, I'd like to replace the big ol' Hi/Lo transfer shifter was just a button (it looks a little goofy and takes up lots of real estate), 3rd row heat as well as A/C would be a nice touch, definitely time for all the car makers to offer satellite radio connections. All very forgivable.
http://fleetrates.com/index.asp?site=Lexus
Sorry the link doesn't bring you directly to the page I wanted. Just enter LX470
I've seen where the owner moved to California and set up that website after the Florida Attorney Generals office charged him with taking about a million of peoples money without delivering the cars, or worse...delivering the cars and cashing the checks, but not paying off the bank to clear the title.
Didn't want to draw attention to them here, but since someone else did, does anyone know if this is a scam or not?
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Way too much vinyl on board for a vehicle of this caliber. My MDX had more leather trim than the Lexus.
Shift knobs and console areas...too much vinyl.
Truck does indeed "clunk" when you are stopped with your foot on the break. Gives you a sensation of being lightly tapped by the car behind you. I thought perhaps this would have been corrected by now, as it is a recurring Toyota issue. I did not notice this on the test drive.
Storage compartment between the front seats is a little wimpy for a vehicle of this size.
Hill/ stability control thing makes a horrid noise when pulling up into my garage, which is on a slight incline. Scared me to death before I realized it was "normal" in this situation.
Nav is not user friendly. I had heard this before, but didn't want to judge. Apparently Lexus has heard this over and over. Bluetooth sys still needs work, not as compatible as one would be led to believe. Lexus techs have made this same statement. That said, I am far from being the most techno savvy person around.
I wish the audio controls were not via the nav screen. I do not like the fact that I have to take my eyes off the road to change stations. Also, it requires an extra step to turn on the audio screen to actually get to the selections. (At least with "buttons" you can feel the buttons and change the station without looking at the buttons.)
That being said, I LOVE this vehicle and wouldn't trade it for the world. I love the climate control system and the sound of the audio. I love the ride, the handling, etc. It is just a really nice vehicle to drive, and makes my daily commute a pleasure. I get lots of compliments on the color, which is the ash blue mica. (steely gray/blue) (At this point I am getting an average of 16.1 miles per gallon for the first 1300 miles, half freeway, half stop and go. )
I would say that having also owned an MDX, the MDX is a close second for me. But I am planning on keeping this vehicle for quite a while. I am really glad I decided on the GX.
Has any one tried the adhesive film paint protector available from Lexus? It looks intriguing, but not sure how it really holds up.
I have a 2003 GX470. It has the NAV Option, but no camera. The GX, being tall, has a drawback in that I usually don't see the car in the back. Having a backup camera will be a solution. I am aware that since 2004, Lexus does offer the camera, but it is a part of the NAV. Is it possible to add this feature into my existing NAV? If not, should I go with an independent camera? And which independent camera is best for me to go with? Hopefully I can receive a few good advices... Thank you.
If I wait for the 2007 (August/September) can I still expect to get a good deal or will I have to pay closer to sticker?
If it's still a dressed up Toyota 4Runner I would advise against buying one if you do a serious amount of highway driving. After a lengthy trip to Yosemite and back (to Tucson) I found our GX very unstable on the highway at any speed above 70 mph. After posting this on the Lexus and the Toyota websites it became evident that both vehicles are intrinsically unstable at highway speeds.
If you plan on merely enjoying the luxury the GX offers and tool around town as my wife does with hers it will not matter. It's a very luxurious SUV ... IMO it's second rate when it hits the higher speeds on the open highways. If it was MY daily ride it would be gone. I'm intolerant of less than perfection.
Bart hades:
I am used to Lexus & Mercedes cars. And drive an SUV now. I like the high end. Who do you think offers perfection at highway speeds?
I haven't driven the LX470 but my brother-in-law has the Toyota Land Cruiser (same truck) and says it's as steady as an anvil. He's had three or four of them ... drives back and forth from Monterey to his place in Jackson Hole several times each year. Loved my Navigator ... got hammered on resale so would only get one on an incentive laden lease (and they're blowin' 'em out here for 4th of July "sale"). Wouldn't have the MB (two of my friends here have had to have engines replaced) or BMW on a bet ... too many problems, too austere. $50K+ and they want you to drive ugly? Not me. I'd look at the big Infiniti ... but I haven't driven it and it looks clumsy to my eye so I wouldn't have it. From a quality perspective, however, Infiniti's right up there with (and in many respects better than) Lexus. My daily ride is the Infiniti M35 Sport and the quality's sensational and the technology knocks the socks off my wife's GX.
Hope this helps.
Bart
That's what my 3 neighbors say who have them.... But they do drive nicely. Just like the Navigators, IMO. Bad brakes though, way too small. Nissan wasn't quite ready to play with the Big Boys, it seems.
We own a Nissan Titan, and have not had any issues except for a few minor recall notices. I am sure it will run forever, but the fit and finish quality is sorely lacking. I wonder if the Infinitis have the same fit and finish issues.
Sami
I had a Navigator, perhaps second year it came out. Loved it. While it didn't have quite the refinements of the GX470 that my wife now has, it was a far superior vehicle on the highway ... less sway, easier to keep on the straight and narrow, less downshifting in cruise control,
all complaints registered on this thread by others. My wife had a Grand Cherokee for ten years ... much better road car than the LX470. If you don't do a lot of highway driving it's a wonderful local cruiser ... refined and filled with quality. And the RX just isn't big enough for us either.
Your feeling about the Escalades and other GM SUV's is a very valid one ... I am of the firm opinion that Ford (perish the thought) finishes its vehicles better than GM and the GM large SUV's are all the same w/ different bells and whistles.
Also does Lexus have sales that I should look for? Do they tend to sell close to MSRP when the new models come out? Any info that you can provide me would help a lot being a newbie to the lexus family.
If you go to the GX470 forum you'll see several discussions of prices paid, etc. I recently saw one that claimed to have gotten $6,500 off MSRP and I'd believe it given the effect the price of fuel has had on the large SUV market.
Hope this helps.
Bart
Brand new 2006. It's only been a few weeks and as I love the New SUV I have to say I do see quite a difference from the LX.
The LX has a much smoother ride and I liked the feeling of sitting up higher.
Sami
Point well taken re: "unfinished touches". I never felt that way at all about my Navigator, and when I'm in an airport and count the Lincoln limos v. the Caddy limos it's obvious who makes a better product. We were in London a couple of summers ago ... and the limos there were BMW 7-series. I asked one driver why ... with Jag being the homemade product ... they drive Bimmers especially since they're not great fans of the Germans. His answer was telling ... because they don't break down! Same answer from a Lincoln limo driver here (v. Caddy).
You'll enjoy the GX more than the Escalade ... although for certain I'd never want to tow a boat on the highway with it. It's steady as an anvil except at high speeds and in windy conditions but for "routine" use and overall comfort and pleasure it's first rate. Would I buy another one? NO, for the reasons initially stated. Would I dump it for those reasons? No. It's not an issue unless taking long high-speed trips and we seldom do that.
Sami
Also, without recirculate on AC seems pretty weak over 90F
Please let me know your thoughts/experiences - i have
an '04 loaded with 24k....
THANKS!!!!
On another note, happy to say the brake clunk is truly fixed. I did break down and use the premium gas in the GX, but it did not make a bit of difference (for me) and it did not increase my mileage.
Sami
(Read: Lexus HPX Concept Vehicle from 2004 Auto Show circuit)
116" Wheelbase, Length 194"
Thank You, Lexus!
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