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Lexus ES 300/ES 330 Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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One question. With regular unleaded, I seem to get about 20 MPG on mostly highway driving. Is that the norm? Will I benefit by switching to 89 or 91 octane? Thanks for any advise.
Slightly OT and not sure if this is the right forum but appreciate your replies. Been looking at the LS430 and ES330(2004) and made up my mind that couldn't justify the huge difference in price between the two, even though the LS430 is quite substantial.
Anyway..keeping in mind what you have been saying about the 2005 about to hit the showrooms(and whether I should wait) and the Salesman has virtually told me that he wants to make this sale by the end of this month..here is what he is offering. He has a Gold coloured 2004 ES330.(which comes with the following)
MSRP----- 31725.00
Heated front seats.........440.00
HID 640.00
Power Rear Shade 210.00
Nav system package with
in-dash CD player and
6 Disc CD player 2220.00
Wood/leather Steering
wheel and shift nob 330.00
Cargo net 59.00
Trunk Mat 69.00
Wheel Locks 66.00
$35759.00
Delivery fee 625.00
Total $36384.00
The salesman then tells me that this particular car comes with Exotic Wood trim which adds another $895.00 for a total $37279.00.(can't seem to find this package announced anywhere, even on Lexus's website, thought it came with this wood??) Provided that I take the car by the end of this month he will deduct $2000.00 and give me $1000.00 for my 92 Lincoln(which is all it's worth, unless I sell privately for perhaps $500,00 to 1K more)
So we now come to $34279.00
Fees and Service
Inspection, cleaning etc
(BS or normal?) 499.50
Waste tire and lead acid 8.50
Sales Tax(6% in Florida) 2087.22
Tag and Title 150.00
Grand Total $37024.22
So..is this a good deal?(keeping in mind that Naples FL. appears to get much higher prices than elsewhere)...I thought around $35,000 might be nearer, or am I wrong........or should I just wait for the 2005 version?
Sorry for the long post......Bran.
Year: 2004
MSRP: $33924
Options: PM, HN, Sportdesign edition, WL, LM, GN
Invoice: $29975 (NADA new car guide)
Paid: $29857
OTD: $31984 (Tax, 6.25%, TTL, doc fee, Inv Tax)
Financing: 2.9% , 60 months, Lexus Finance
Date bought: 7/31/2004 (might have had something to do with the price)
Did I get a good deal? I got one that I am very happy with. The dealer was Sterling McCall. I had the most wonderful buying experience with them. All negotiations thru' internet. Went to the dealer to complete formalities. The car is great. I went into this after reading extensively about the transmission and test driing it myself.
Thanks. The doc fee was $50. I believe it is capped at $50 by law in TX (it says that "A documentary fee may not exceed $50 for a motor vehicle contract ...") in the sale contract.
AV
I am planning to negotiate to get close/less than invoice since 2005 models have started to arrive.
Basically what has changed:
-17" wheels optional for $80
-passenger seat memory functions
-lighter plastic color in interior(around climate control, etc.)
-different wood color shade(I believer lighter again).
-heated/cooled seats
-projector beam low-beam headlights
-redesigned front bumper with new round foglamps
-redesigned rear tailamps
-new front grille
Anyone: Is there a price increase on the 2005 ES330?
i very badly need some advice on the following matter. I have no experience in purchasing cars. Is it advisable to buy a car that has been met with an accident. I saw this this lexus car at a dealer.
Details :
Lexus ES 300 1996
mileage = 99000
black color , leather seats
This car was involved in an accident and the dealer basically repaired it. Now it looks brand new with no problems at all.
The following things were damaged :
1) Hood
2) Fendor
3) Radiator
4) Condensor
The dealer basically replaced it with new parts and repaired the body damage. I test drove the car and it looks in perfect condition.
He is asking for : $4000.00
Is it worth buying a car that was involved in an accident. Any advice would really be appreciated.
Thanks
Need Advice
It's a bad idea to buy a used car that has been in a major accident. It will never be like a new car, and it is a expensive car to repair. Therefore, imagine if you start having problems with it due to the accident repair...you'll be shelling out money left & right.
I would say it's better to spend a few more grand and buy a higher mileage 95 or 96 that hasn't been in a accident.
Have you ever experienced tranny symptoms on any ES from 02-04, and if so do you feel it on 05?
Is the base audio still the 87-watt lexus premium?
BTW, what's the invoice price on that? Is 05's msrp and invoice higher than 04?
Regarding:
"Have you ever experienced tranny symptoms on any ES from 02-04, and if so do you feel it on 05?"
That's a tough one. Before I actually test drove a 2004 (but waited for the 2005), I did alot of research. I read many of the complaints on the various forums, spoke with a couple of folks that have the 02 - 04 ES300/330, and spoke with a number of sales reps. By the time I actually drove the car, I was almost paranoid about it.... and to be honest I did find a hesitation, but I couldn't help wondering if it was because I was so worked up by it or what.... Kind of like reading to much about a medical sickness, and all of a sudden thinking you have it... In the end, it didn't bother me. With the 2005, I haven't felt it. Same thing happened for my wife. Again, I described what other people felt to her, and she thought she felt something like that. But again, it didn't feel any different then her 1995 Avalon. The 2005 ES330 is her car.
"Is the base audio still the 87-watt lexus premium?"
Yes
"BTW, what's the invoice price on that? Is 05's msrp and invoice higher than 04?"
It's higher by about $250 on the base and another $200 on the seats, since they are now ventilated. MSRP and features are now on the Lexus site (www.lexus.com), and invoice prices are now on Kelly Blue Book (www.kbb.com).
All things considered, it is a great car. They changed the wood to a kind of golden bird's-eye maple from the previous darker walnut. I kind of liked the darker wood better. They also added the 17" wheel option for $80. Seems like all the cars had it. It feels good. I can feel a little bit of the difference in the turns.... a little tighter. The ventilated seats is a nice feature. There are other changes, but for me the biggest thing I think is audio controls on the steering wheel. I was always surprised they never had this. Real nice to be able to control most of the settings with your right thumb.
Like I said, very nice car.
I am looking to buy my wife a car to replace her totalled 1998 Infiniti I30. While she loved the infiniti, she would like a different car and we were impressed after we test drove an ES300. We are looking to buy a CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) ES300 and need your advice. Whatever car we buy will be in our family for 5-6 years so leasing is not a consideration.
Based on the 2004 ES330 price at the local dealer at $30.9K + taxes, I am looking to buy a pre-owned car from anywhere between $25K-$30K out the door. Since we keep our cars for a long time, I will likely get the additional 2 year warranty for a total of 5 years. I was quoted $1,450 from the dealer. Does this price sound right?
Is there a model difference between the 2002 and 2003? Which do you recommend?
What should I expect to pay for a 2003 w/ approx 10K miles or a 2002 w/ approx 20K miles?
I was guessing that $23-24K for a 2002 and $26-27K for a 2003? Are these good guesses?
How will I be treated if I don't buy it from my local dealer?
Is there a downside if I buy it pre-owned?
Since I don't want to pay for the first year or two of deprecation hit, I was leaning towards the 2002 but don't know much about the models.
Any input would be appreciated.
Sincerely,
Anthony
ES330 - 2005 with Navi/Mark Levison - 34,600 + 2,076 tax + 120 Reg. fee + 45 processing fee.
Altogether: 36,841.
Please let me know whether this is reasonable.
ES330 - 2005 with Navi/Mark Levison - 34,600 + 2,076 tax + 120 Reg. fee + 45 processing fee.
Altogether: 36,841.
Please let me know whether this is reasonable.
Seems like a good price!
In addition to Navigation with ML, it has
Heated & VENTILATED Front Seats
HID
Power Rear Sunshade
VSC
Wood & Leather Steering wheel
Trunk mat
Wheel Locks
Cargo Net
From Lexus of Manhattan, Ray Catena Lexus
In addition to Navigation with ML, it has
Heated & VENTILATED Front Seats
HID
Power Rear Sunshade
VSC
Wood & Leather Steering wheel
Trunk mat
Wheel Locks
Cargo Net
From Lexus of Manhattan, Ray Catena Lexus
It seems like your MSRP is about 38,300. Which means the invoice price on that car is right around $34,000 even. At $600 over invoice, it seems like you are getting a great deal for a '05.
In addition to Navigation with ML, it has
Heated & VENTILATED Front Seats
HID
Power Rear Sunshade
VSC
Wood & Leather Steering wheel
Trunk mat
Wheel Locks
Cargo Net
From Lexus of Manhattan, Ray Catena Lexus
If so, I would not even wait a second.
I got a quote for 34.6K with Navi/ML package ?
It seems like you're in the PHilly area? IF so, have you tried Ray Catena in Oakhurst, NJ?
The next day the sales manager calls and says the sales guy did not know what was he doing. Said he sold me the car for less, hence cancelling the deal. He says, they would refund my money though.
Can this be done legally. I want to know whether can I talk to someone @ Lexus to get this resolved.
If your deal is much higher than 90% MSRP, I'd try to negotiate for a lower price.