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4.10:1 is "lower" than 3.73:1. Conversely, 3.73:1 is "higher", or "taller", than 4.10:1.
Don't ask me why this is, it just is.
1offroader
Good Luck
--jjf
Got a call from GMC dealer yesterday. They said we submitted my order for the 2500HD too late and missed the deadline for the '07s (order placed back in the first week of May). When I placed the order at that time, I specifically asked if we would make the deadline for ordering an '07 and they said no problem. Well, after weeks of the build status not updating, someone finally called and found out the order would not be honored. So now I have to wait til July when Flint starts up '08 prodction. Actually it will probably be more like August once I take delivery... On a positive note, they said the price for my '08 will be no more than $500 more than what we negotiated for the '07 (below invoice, less rebates at time of delivery). So, I'll just have to *patiently* wait now... Anyhow, this is just a minor rant - I could find better info on the internet than what the dealer had. I was not surprised to get the call yesterday.
I talked to 4 dealers and every single one claimed to sell at invoice + $500. Most were offering $1000 for the Ranger. I tried a hard line with this dealer as he had 2 of the trucks invoiced in November, and neither of them had 10 miles on the odometer. How did I do?
--jjf
I bought a 1500 crew cab work truck this weekend. Only options were tinted glass and custom wheels. MSRP was 28,080 - Edmunds site shows 25,700 invoice. I got 2500 in rebates and negotiated final price of 23,100. Traded in my 94 Ranger for add'l 1500, added a bedliner and walked out at 22,000 even. My Ranger was worth 500 tops, so I feel like I did OK.
I talked to 4 dealers and every single one claimed to sell at invoice + $500. Most were offering $1000 for the Ranger. I tried a hard line with this dealer as he had 2 of the trucks invoiced in November, and neither of them had 10 miles on the odometer. How did I do?
07 Silverado Crew 4x4 LTZ w/Nav. $44145
Paid 500 under invoice plus 2500 rebate and a 1000 military rebate. Seemed to be the going rate here in Oklahoma.
Went to buy a tundra but dealer was charging MSRP for the crewmax, he called 2 days after the silverado was in my drive told me 500 over invoice. HA!
I think I got more features (and truck) for less.
I have been waiting for a better deal but it looks like GM is going to be pretty tight this year.
Anyone got a better deal than this?
--jjf
I have been pricing 2007 Silverado LTZ Crew Cabs and have been getting price quotes around $6000 off MSRP total after rebate.
I have been waiting for a better deal but it looks like GM is going to be pretty tight this year.
Anyone got a better deal than this?
I am considering purchasing a 2007 pickup, half ton. I need the larger double cab, full double cab. I will need to use the back seat often for kids and dogs. I want the truck to be able to tow 7,500 pounds, perhaps a little more. I would prefer as good gas mileage as possible. I want the truck to last for years and across the 100,000 mile mark without major repairs.
Should I wait for 2008 to see if problems with the new 2007s have been corrected?
If I purchase this year, what would someone suggest?
dwyerchevy2007
I may wait now to see if the 2008 model come out soon.
Best of luck!
So, I figured I'd check out the Sierra (GMC dealer right across the highway). I drove one that was almost identically equipped to the Tundra - stickered right at $30,800 - but here's the kicker - it only had the 5.3L. Ok, what the heck, I'll drive it anyway. Didn't compare power wise, the Tundra was a lot better in the drive train dept. So the salesman and I looked around a found a 6.0L on the lot, in 2wd form (in Houston we really don't need 4wd) - but it had leather and a lot of stuff I don't want - it was $34 and change. I drove it - loved the motor - almost as quick and powerful as the Tundra - but did they have one with a bench cloth seat, nice stereo w/some power goodies but not equipped w/tons of doo dads that I'd only want on a BMW? Nope. Not a 6.0L with the basics in sight.
Sooo.....after doing some research, and talking to the salesman, and the sales mngr., it seems that finding a GMC (or Chevy as far as I can tell from the internet) with cloth seats and the basics, for around $30k sticker, with the 6.0L engine, is almost impossible unless you order it. The thing is, the Toyota dealer had a ton of basic, std. trucks w/cloth seats and just a few doo dads w/the high power motor, just the way I'd want it, ON THE LOT. GMC and Chevy dealers need to order more trucks w/the 6.0L engine, w/out all the thrills. I really like the GMC (and Chevy) more in the styling department, but after driving the 5.3L, I would opt for the Toyota w/the 5.7L for the same money. I know I could, in theory, have a Silverado/Sierra w/the 6.0L w/the same options for the same money, but dealers don't have them equipped that way. :confuse:
2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Work Truck Regular Cab
Automatic transmission
4WD
4.8L V8 engine
Exterior Color:GRYSTONE MET
Interior Color:DK TITAN CLTH
$21255.00 STANDARD price
2585.00 OPTIONS
$23840.00 total with options
900.00 destination charge
$24740.00
_________
$1500.00 GM incentive (subtract)
500.00 Gm conquest bonus (subtract)
$1000.00 Dealer discount (subtract)
__________
$21740.00 AMOUNT I PAID (I paid cash)
PLUS TAX,TITLE,PLATE
WORK TRUCK PREFERRED EQUIPMENT GROUP includes standard
equipment
GLASS SOLAR-RAY DEEP-TINTED (all windows except light
tinted glass on windshield and driver and front passenger side glass) (With Regular Cab models includes rear window. With Extended Cab models includes rear and rear quarter windows. With Crew Cab models or (C49) rear-window defogger includes light-tinted rear window.) $50.00
GVWR 6800 LBS. (3084 KG) (Requires CC10753 CC10543 CK10903 and CK10553 models. Standard on CC10543 and CK10553 models.)
AIR CONDITIONING SINGLE-ZONE MANUAL FRONT CLIMATE CONTROL (Standard on Extended and Crew Cab models.) $870.00
DIFFERENTIAL HEAVY-DUTY AUTOMATIC LOCKING REAR (Included with (PCY) Towing Package.) $325.00
REAR AXLE 3.42 RATIO (Refer to Engine/Axle chart for availability.)
CRUISE CONTROL ELECTRONIC with set and resume speed located on steering wheel $240.0
ENGINE VORTEC 4.8L V8 SFI (295 hp [220.0 kW] @ 5600 rpm 305 lb-ft torque [411.8 N-m] @ 4800 rpm) iron block (Standard with CK10553 CK10753 and C*10543 models only. Not available on C*10953 models.)
TRANSMISSION 4-SPEED AUTOMATIC ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED with overdrive and tow/haul mode (STD)
NEW JERSEY COST SURCHARGE *Required on all vehicles ordered by New Jersey dealers*
SNOW PLOW PREP PACKAGE includes 15-amp power for backup and roof emergency light (KW1) 160-amp alternator high-flow front bumper forward lamp wiring harness (TRW) Provision for cab roof mounted lamp/beacon instrument panel jumper wiring harness for electric trailer brake controller (K47) high-capacity air cleaner (KNP) auxiliary external transmission oil cooler and (NZZ) Skid Plate Package (Requires CK15*03 models. Not available with (LU3) Vortec 4.3L V6 MFI engine or (CJ2) dual-zone au $405.00
EMISSIONS MAINE MASSACHUSETTS NEW YORK OR VERMONT STATE REQUIREMENTS
WORK TRUCK CONVENIENCE PACKAGE includes (AU3) power door locks (AU0) remote keyless entry and (U1C) AM/FM stereo with CD player $695.00
1 year free Onstar
If you have a GM MasterCard, watch for incentives from GM to match you money, work with more than one dealership, have a vehicle to trade and say this dealership with give me this, take all the GM rebates and dealership rebates and you could get up to 10k off. Best of luck. It worked for me. 9700.00 off my LT x-cab 2wd, loaded minus leather out the door 21,700.00 List was 29,700, plus I paid for xtras.
I have a question. Has anyone here ever bought a new car and had the rebates go up in the next couple days? A friend of mine just had this happen. I was wondering if anyone else has had this happen and what you did about it- if anything. Maybe the dealership would want to step up and offer something to make him happy, but I really don't know. It's something I had not thought about before.
Do check on the terms of the rebate on edmunds or gm's site and see if it applies to his purchase date. He can send in the form with his invoice and such.
If your friend paid 27000 or so and will have 37000 in it with finance charges over 5 years and missed out on 500 or so on rebates tell him to enjoy his car.
--jjf
I have a question. Has anyone here ever bought a new car and had the rebates go up in the next couple days? A friend of mine just had this happen. I was wondering if anyone else has had this happen and what you did about it- if anything. Maybe the dealership would want to step up and offer something to make him happy, but I really don't know. It's something I had not thought about before.
Chevy Model Year End Event
It's easy to pick out your new 2007 Chevy car, truck, SUV, crossover vehicle or van, and take advantage of a great selection, thanks to the Chevy Model Year End Event. Pick your model, select your color, and choose from the wide range of dealer-installed Chevy accessories.
But hurry, because the '07s are going fast.
0% APR for 60 Months1
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Any thoughts?? Opinions???
If you can find the color you want in an 07, go for it. The current incentives and rebates are good. The best way to find the truck you want is to use the GMC (or chevy) vehicle locator on the respective website. Just keep changing the zip code until you find the truk you want. Doing this will help you in the long run and you already know where the truck you want is and you can get a quote for it from that dealership.
the new color is "Deep Ruby" it is a little more burgundy than the sport red
If you still find one on the lots these are incredible buys. Got mine at Bickerstaff GMC in Atlanta and they had another 5.3LB when I got mine.
Color1: 41U Black Exterior Color
Color2: N/A
Trim: 84D Ebony/Light Titanium Custom Cloth
Package: 1LT LT1 Option Package
Engine: LY5 Engine: 5.3L, V-8
Trans: M30 Transmission: 4-Speed Automatic
Other: 1SZ Option Package Discount
AJ1 Glass: Deep Tinted
AP8 Remote Start Accomodations Package
AU3 Power Door Locks
AZ3 Uplevel Bench Seats
B30 Floor Covering: Color Keyed Carpet with Floor Mats
B32 Floor Mats, Front
B33 Floor Mats, Rear
B85 Moldings, Body Side, Black or Bright, Package Dependent
C49 Defogger, Rear Window, Electric
C5U GVW Rating 6800 Lbs
C67 Air Conditioning, Manual
DF5 Mirror I/S R/V-Lt Sens-Compass/Temp
DL8 Mirrors, O/S, Power, Heated
E63 Body, Fleetside
FE9 Federal Emissions
G80 Locking Differential, Rear
GT4 Rear Axle, 3.73 Ratio
JL4 Stabilitrak - Stability Control
K34 Cruise Control
K47 Air Cleaner, High Capacity
KNP Transmission Cooling System
P58 Wheel 20" Polished Aluminum
PDA Texas Edition
QSS Tires, P275/55R20, All Season, Blackwall
R9Z Sold Order Expedite
SAF Spare Tire Lock
TUF Emblem - Texas Edition Package
UE1 OnStar Communication System
US8 Radio, AM/FM Stereo, Auto Tone, CD
V22 Grille: Chrome Surround
V76 Recovery Hooks
VK3 License Plate Front Mounting Pkg
Z60 Suspension Package: High Performance
Z82 Trailering Package
ZY1 Solid Paint Application
for $24,962 +TT&L - this includes my GM supplier discount and 4000 cash back.
any comments would be helpful.
good luck
--jjf
2007 Chevrolet CC10543 - Silverado: 1500 2WD Crew Cab Short Box
Color1: 41U Black Exterior Color
Color2: N/A
Trim: 84D Ebony/Light Titanium Custom Cloth
Package: 1LT LT1 Option Package
Engine: LY5 Engine: 5.3L, V-8
Trans: M30 Transmission: 4-Speed Automatic
Other: 1SZ Option Package Discount
AJ1 Glass: Deep Tinted
AP8 Remote Start Accomodations Package
AU3 Power Door Locks
AZ3 Uplevel Bench Seats
B30 Floor Covering: Color Keyed Carpet with Floor Mats
B32 Floor Mats, Front
B33 Floor Mats, Rear
B85 Moldings, Body Side, Black or Bright, Package Dependent
C49 Defogger, Rear Window
what's the invoice on one of these? is Edmunds dead-on on invoice pricing?
it really hinges on my trade in.. we'll see how it goes.
Put out requests for bids via email to 20-30 dealers last week of the month (chevy website) with your requirements ,top 3-4 color choices and approximate msrp. Tell them you are buying before end of month and have emailed 30 dealers. Work the top 3-5 out of the 10 or so who respond against one another (2nd round 10 get your cell #). You want price with all doc fees and title included. Do 98% of your work from your air conditioned home and expend your energy on those who make the cut. Its useless walking in to 1 or 2 dealerships trying to "haggle" as only about 10% of dealerships toward the end of a given month really need to make a sale.
Good luck
--jjf