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MSRP is around $33,000. Why no seat heaters? no audio controls on the wheel? black plastic mirrors? no satellite radio?
Sorry, no comparison between a Mustang and a BMW. The Mustang is a great car and a great value, but a 3-series is in a league of its own.
For me right now it is a dead heat between another 325i and a GT convertible. Each has their merits. Driving experience the 325i wins hands down, fun to drive the GT Convertible gets the edge. Cost wise they are the same.
The trick will be getting the GT convertible in yellow 5MT and NO shaker 1000 (I need the space for golf clubs).
Yet, you are. :confuse:
I've driven an '06 330i Sport and, IMO, the driving experience is certainly not a "hands down" win for the BMW. And, to be honest, the 330i was more harsh than my Mustang GT w/ Eibach springs. So it's way more harsh than the stock Mustang GT, especially the convertible.
Take off the BMW blinders and be a little more objective.
HUH?? Is this a used 325 vs new GT?? Or is this lease prices? (maybe i missed the original post which pointed this out)
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
You're going to pay $35.5 for the BMW with sports and lux pacakge. Plus, you can't drop the top in the BMW.
The sound of the Mustang GT, once you crank it up, should by itself, sway you.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The Mustang has the grunt and the best shifting stick I've ever driven. It handles very well even with its considerable weight.
One is ultra-smooth and incredibly composed and the other is a muscle car.
The motor, transmission and drop top are big plusses. Enough probably to outweigh my preference for the 325i handling feel and brakes.
The Mustang isn't about any of that, even though the ride is refined compared to previous Mustangs. Either you "get it" or you don't. If you do buy the Mustang, congratulations and welcome to the club, but I, for one, don't want to see you complaining about it later. You need to know what you're getting into BEFORE you make the purchase. Ask questions. Don't make misguided assumptions.
One of the great things about Mustang people is that they're MORE than ecstatic to help out another Mustang owner with any car problem they have.
Car & Driver (GT): 70-0 183 ft
The Car & Driver review, by John Phillips (Dec. '04), was fincky and dour. Phillips complained about the instruments being hard to read in daylight -- I've had no such trouble -- and the interior being as "black as an eel's esophogus, ridiculously funereal." First, I can assure you that not only is an eel's esophogus as pink as yours or mine, but that the interior, with an interior upgrade, is tasteful and uncluttered. Second opinions, btw, by other Car & Driver reviewers (Swan, Csere, and Robinson) tacked on to the end of Phillips' review were much more positive. Just about every reviewer everywhere has allluded to the "fun factor" of driving the Pony GT w/ a manual trans, something, some say, missing even from the Vette.
If you don't like the Tang GT, your alternative is not the BMW 300, but the Nissan Z or Masda RX 8, both of which aren't anywhere near as fast or nimble as the Pony GT (see Edmunds/Inside Line comparison tests on this site).
Personally, I'm rethinking whether to upgrade to a Shelby Cobra SVT GT 500. My stock GT Premium is proving to have power to spare.
Shelby Cobra SVT GT500 will be fast. Looking forward to it. Then the question you have to ask yourself is... do you want to spend $40k+ for a Mustang? You know with dealer markups (gotta have it 1st) it will be nearly $45k to $50k. There are a lot more refined and luxury marques out there that I would consider first. Yes they won't be as fast, but there is more to life then just fast, refinement & buld quality too.
Nobody likes your GTO. Nobody wants to buy them and that is why they languish on lots.
Affordability has nothing to do with anything. People buy what they want. Jay Leno has a Mustang GT. Go tell him that if he can't afford a GTO to stick with his Mustang. The lack of maturity and juvenile attitude that I haven't heard since the first grade, only comes from GTO owners.
I could have had a G35 or 330i. I went with what I wanted, which happened to be a Mustang. I enjoy the car, gremlins and all. I enjoy the thumbs up I get, the "Nice car" comments from strangers everywhere. The only finger GTO owners get is when they cut someone off in trying to race a Mustang owner, who is probably wondering why this guy in a Cavalier wnats to race him. Sure is a fast cavalier...wait...oh I see a Pontiac GTO. From Australia.
Enjoy your GTO, I am sure it is a very nice interpretation of the Cavalier. I am sure it is very fast. Please, if you want to come in here and pull off a high and mighty because you think your car costs more than my car because you have more jack, please feel free to check out other popular websites that you may be interested in, such as Sesame street, Blue's Clues and one of my kids favourites, the always appealing Dora the Explorer.
I can't find a photo anywhere.
Mark
I recently went for another test drive on my commuter route and found the car to be quite acceptable for day-to-day style driving and more nimble than its size belies. The interior materials could be better, but that can be said about most cars including the new IS250. The ride is fine and not too harsh for me. Generally the stiffer the suspension the better. The seats fit me quite well.
I'm a little concerned about some of the problems people are having. Especially the AT issues, but I would get a 5MT. Ford service apparently hasn't improved any since my experience. BMW customer service isn't much to write home about either.
Seat heaters in a convertible would be nice.
Look at today's headlines and read about a 220,000 vehicle recall -- no Mustangs, thankfully, on the list.
The Ford service department is a third-world banana republic compared to that at Honda. The Ford waiting room is like a police station lockup with an old TV.
The storage spaces, glove compartment and trunk, are tiny. The spaces in the doors are useless and there are no pouches on the backs of the front seats.
Personally, I don't care. I love the car. I've never loved any car before, actually been completely indifferent to 'em, just means to an end, a way to get from point A to point B. Used to even prefer if someone else drove. No longer. Just you try putting your hands on my GT!
As for the GT500, you put a deposit (fully refundable) and will be called when the spec sheet comes out, which, I assume will include an MSRP. Dealers can't mark up the car; it's special order only, VERY limited production.
I'm still on the fence about ordering a SVT GT 500: My stock GT Premium has tons of power, which I am still learning how to tap into -- there's plenty of reserve muscle in the 3000-5000 rpm range. Do I really want a red car with racing stripes (no!).
The 17's are over $1K. The tires are almost twice as expensive.
Also told him I won't drive a red car with racing stripes and red leather. It ain't in my blood.
An inherently aggressive looking car like the GT500 doesn't need to advertise itself. In fact, imo, it makes a much more dramatic statement if understated (like my silver GT Premium coupe). But I'm, no doubt, in the minority. Just look at some of the modifications that are coming out:
the Shelby CS6
http://www.shelbyautos.com/
the Saleen's
http://www.saleen.com/
or, shudder, the Roush
http://www.roushperf.com/mustang.shtml
The Mustang seems to invite overstatement. Too bad, such a beautiful car, if left alone.
Blizzaks have a sticky compound that, once it wears off, you are left with a mediocre winter tire at best. I have had three pairs of these Michelins and IMO nothing comes close.
I am an owner of a 05 GTO....(I'm not here to stir the pot)
What I am considering is buying a new 06 Mustang GT Prem.
with auto trans for my wife and having the best of both worlds so to speak. I've located one that fits the bill,
a Black on Black with a sticker price of $30,330
The dealer said they will knock off $1500 from sticker.
$28,830 plus tax. I know these cars have been selling for
sticker+ so do you think I should jump on this price?
Also, the ones that have an 06, have you experienced any problems that I should be aware of?
The Mustang, after a good scrape (God I hate that) was ready to go and my first gear acceleration, with a good dose of respect to the conditions, was too easy. A little more gas and the TC was there to help me get going. On my deserted road it was excellent. Then again, I expected nothing less as my 99 GT was easy. This felt even more so.
No worries here. No beaters here. With proper tires and a good dose of common sense, the Mustang is an easy car to drive in terrible conditions.
Blackflag: Price seems right to me, but you can check going MSRP and wholesale prices at any number of sites. I've used "cars.com."
cmnot....good news on the winter driving part.
blackflag....I sold my Mustang GT about 8 weeks ago....just because I could sell it for more than I paid for it. I had bought it on X plan and sold it for $50 under the original MSRP (but about $500 under MSRP of an '06).
So, being that was only 8 weeks ago (weather was still nice) and you're looking at a $1,500 discount, I'd be all over that. I do think that the factory is finally catching up with the demand. Still, I rarely see a GT sitting on a dealer's lot. And, when I do, it's usually gone within 24-48 hours.
Ford still won't include the Mustang on any of the special pricing plans they announce for the rest of their line-up.
While I never had any problems with mine, there are still some sporadic reports regarding a slow fuel fill issue. I'd say that it's a filler neck problem and not a fuel tank problem, as Ford originally thought. I'd ask the dealer if they'll fill-up the one your interested in at whatever pump they have to make certain it doesn't have an issue. I'd ask them to have you present when they do it, just to ease your concerns.
I've also seen a couple of reports about the fuel guage acting weird. That could mean the ECU needs to be reflashed (since it also controls the electronic fuel guage), or maybe bad sending units. Those are easy fixes, though and would be covered under warranty.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the input. I guess any discount on the GT is a plus so the $1,500 off MSRP is a real deal.
Since my wife will be the primary driver of the car the
fuel fill issue will be of primary importance.
If I make the deal, but before I sign, I'll do as you suggest and ask them to put gas in the car in my presence.
That way if it fails the test I'm not obligated to take that particular one. Don't want work to have to be done on it before I even take it home.
Does any weight need to be added to the rear end of these vehicles (trunk) while driving in winter conditions?
TX
PP, it is a stick on Roush scoop. I was tired of the hood looking like one big flat panel but it is not as bad as the new Accords hood. It needed that extra "pop" and I didn't want a functional fiberglass hood.
Must say that the problem seems to have corrected itself by switching "pumps". Is there a problem with the intake of the fuel tank perhaps?.............
Still wondering about the extra weight for the back end of the GT for the winter driving deal!
Thanks
First and most obvious choice is hot red, the standard for sports machines (picture a Vette or Ferrari). Part of this color choice has to do with personality. Red is for the person who wants to get noticed. Some do, some don't (I don't). Different strokes. Personally, I think red makes the Tang look a little chubby, short, unless we're talking convertible, in which case red is definitely a consideration, hot and sexy.
Then there's black, perfect for an agressive car with attitude like the Pony. But there are a couple of drawbacks, things to consider: 1) Black doesn't go particularly well with the front end, the black grill. It needs to be offset, like by the red lights in the back, or by chrome. 2) Black is an excellent choice in certain areas, like cities, like the north, but in California, where I live, it's impractical because of all the sun -- even in winter, the interior will toast (I know, I used to have a black car.) 3) Lastly, black doesn't wear well. It gets dirty easily, it scratches over time, losing its sheen, getting duller with every trip to the car wash or long distance highway jaunt.
Lastly there's silver, the most popular color. Yes, it might look a little bland on the page, or in the dealer showroom, but out under an open sky is gathers light, glows. Out on the road, it fits perfectly with the other machines, a machine color, perfect for Calif. where the sun shines alot. It's no accident that Ford in it's first TV ad introduced the new Mustang in silver, a classy classic look.
I chose silver, but I have to admit, everytime a new Tang rolls by I check out how a different color looks.
As for the side stripes, don't like 'em.
As for the fog lights in the grill, would prefer them under the headlights, where they don't interrupt the clean lines of the hood and grill (most customizations and the Cobra move them just so).
The new "Pony package," which clutters that cool black grill is all wrong, meant, I figure, to appeal more to women, to soften the aggressive look of the car.
Some initial impressions: amazing handling. Sounds awesome, gets lots of looks. It is actually faster than it seems, my brothers Ford Probe GT (FELT) faster because the Mustang is larger and smoother. Oh, you can get up to 40mph in 1st gear! Awesome. You have to be careful when you are at speed on the highway because the steering is very responsive. I've overcorrected when passing, a little scary, not that I was out of control but I had to react fast to heading into the median.
I can confirm the fueling problem. I've experienced it a few times (gas nozzle shuts off prematurely)
No other problems, I have about 4000miles on mine now. Adding more oil than expected. Almost a quart every 1,000miles.
If you are considering this car, I would have to recommend getting all the options. You won't regret it.
The active anti theft system will only work after they have gotten inside the cab. Someone pulled my passenger side window down and it activated (I assume after they put their arm inside. Okay, enough random thoughts.
First posting on this message board, but I hope someone can help us.
We just test drove the 2006 Mustang GT - terrific car, except .....
The damned head rests were really uncomfortable. Seems like we just could not adjust them to our liking.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Jim, Katie and Sarah
Thanks for your input.
It was just that the damned head rest was raked so far forward that hit us in the back of the head and left the neck at a strange angle.
There has got to be a way to adjust the head rests!
Thanks again.
And hope that you will very soon be known as 'gotgtnow'!!
We drove a 2006 GT last night and the dealer had it priced at $3,500 over sticker - plus $500 for paint and appearance bs!! With holdback and all the other stuff, I think they were looking at about $7,000 in profit on one car!
Where can you get one for $1,500 under MSRP? I'll drive a long way to save that kind of money.
You bet something is wrong! Where do you live?
What dealer did you visit? I know that some dealers have
sold the GT over MSRP but $3,500 over is crazy.
Plus sticking you for another $500.
I wouldn't buy a lugnut from a dealer like that!
Clarke Ford of Hudson Ohio (Akron Area)will deal from
$900 to $1,500 off MSRP for the GT.
Right now they have 5 06 GT prem.coupes in stock.
3 auto's and 2 manuals.
You can visit their website at clarkeford.com to get
the info,colors etc.
We live in St. Louis, so I have absolutely no problem driving a few hundred miles to save $5,000!
Great job - thanks for the help!
guys and Girls just came from local delar, getting ready to order my 06/GT, spoiler delete, 18 inch polished alum rims, auto, interior up grade, leather, side air bags Dk/Grey interior just cant make up my mind on exterior color red fire or black. And oh yea did I mention the price $800.00 over invoice!!!!!!!! Cant wait for spring.
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Welcome back.
I can confirm the fueling problem. I've experienced it a few times (gas nozzle shuts off prematurely)
I've rented '05 Mustangs twice in the last few months. Seriously thinking about getting one. I noticed this as well. It tended to be more of a problem at the lower rent stations without the fancy new equipment the more well known brand stations have.
You have to be careful when you are at speed on the highway because the steering is very responsive. I've overcorrected when passing, a little scary, not that I was out of control but I had to react fast to heading into the median.
Agreed. A surpisingly agile car.