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I have spent most of the past 2 weeks there. I have them all blown up on a screen saver but I wanted to see the front and the back of a black LTD. I think there is only 6 pictures of Avalon's in action under photos. Nissan and Volvo even have videos, advertisemnts etc. online. I must admit I'm kind of a "nut" but I think image is very important. Cloths make the man! I like tech stuff like the JBL website on the Avalon audio system. In the past I've been paying all this money for audio systems and didn't even know how they worked or where all the speakers were.
They don't even have a screen saver or desktop on their web. Shame! There are great screen savers for cars like the WRX.
and timing was good so I picked up another month on the float..
Any one having luck charging larger amounts on credit cards?
I am in Florida so dealer's profits and markup maybe different than other areas.
I've had my LTD in Indigo Ink pearl since 02/10 and am stilling loving it. It does show dirt and road salt easier then some other colors. I'm really glad I bought this one.
MikeS.
Tee"
Tee, I'm rarely looking at the front of my dark blue LTD so the symmetry doesn't bother me.
MikeS.
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Mackabee "
Thanks, I'll be looking here for that info. I talked to my dealer and they don't recommend 3rd party gold plating. I then talked to the audio shop installing my headrest DVD setup and they didn't know anybody in the Winchester, Va area. Guess I'll have to start calling other dealers & audio shops in the greater DC area.
MikeS.
Thank you.
Now don't wait too long, you're missing out on a great car.
MikeS.
What are parking sensors? I keep seeing the term here but have no idea what you're talking about.
I've seen small/tiny cameras installed that feed an LCD screen for backing up visibility.
MikeS.
barclay3, do a search on snow, several posts here on that subject.
MikeS.
Basically I've stopped using mine except when in very light traffic, like Sunday morning when I head home from work.
MikeS.
I've found the 05 Avalon styling attractive from the get-go, but it's shape gave me a strong deja vu when I first saw a photo of one in an auto magazine a few months ago. Reviewing some of the many back issues I keep in the throne room, I came across a review of the Volkswagen Phaeton which, when viewed in profile, looks like the Avalon's twin (if not older brother).
However Toyota arrived at the styling for the '05 Avalon, I'm glad it came out the way it did, but I'm sure there are more than a few suits at Volkswagen who are not as pleased as I am with Toyota's latest hit. Just an observation - nothing more.
Regards,
Deannie
Not sure how big the aftermarket system(s) display unit is, or where people are mounting it. I think it's a big plus in a minivan, but for a sedan like the Avalon (which doesn't offer it yet from the factory), I don't think it's really needed, unless you do a lot of parallel parking, which I hardly ever do.
A backup camera displaying on the Nav system screen would be nice, but again, more essential on a minivan.
Exterior Colors
Blizzard Pearl (Mfr Code @E070)
Titanium Metallic (Mfr Code @E1D4)
Phantom Gray Pearl (Mfr Code @E1E3)
Black (Mfr Code @E202)
Cassis Pearl (Mfr Code @E3Q7)
Desert Sand Mica (Mfr Code @E4Q2)
Silver Pine Mica (Mfr Code @E6UO)
Indigo Ink Pearl (Mfr Code @E8P4)
Blue Mirage Metallic (Mfr Code @E8R5)
Interior Trim Colors
Ivory Leather Interior (Mfr Code @I02L
Graphite Leather Interior (Mfr Code @I16L)
Lgt Grey Leather Interior (Mfr Code @I17L)
The Internet works great but be aware that most dealers I have dealt with try to get you into the dealership before they will quote you a price ....to take a test drive etc.! If the salesman can get you to negotiate or listen to their sales pitch before you are prepared you may be convinced to buy a car before you investigate all of your options. You must make it clear that you are not going to make a decision until you have completed your investigation. Most of us do not want to spend weeks negotiating to get the lowest price but if you want the lowest possible price be prepared to spend a lot of time. If you can be flexible concerning models, colors, options, brands and time to purchase you are in a much stronger negotiating position. Prices and the availability of certain cars is always changing. If you are flexible time is on your side. If you can't wait to get a new car and will only buy the most popular model don't expect the dealer give you a lower price when there are two buyers for every car the dealer is allocated ...... dissapline is what it's all about. Personally I'm lazy, so I try to find out what the going discount is for a certain car on the Internet and then buy from the first dealer who has what I want at that price. I will not pay for any care, environmental, advertising or dealer fees as part of the deal. If the dealer insists on extra fees then they must be deducted from the selling price. I definitely don't get the lowest price possible but I'm satisfied I paid a fair price.
Advice is cheap. Ask everyone you know for help.
RONN
Pat, is there any way post #3131 can be edited or annotated (in the interest of clarity)?
Of course, I have the Avalon and love it! I just thought the TL and Avalon were not as close a match. Have fun if you choose to go there. It will be interesting to see the results!
RONN
You can just repost the whole chart if you want with the caveats I emailed you about before I saw this message.
I do not understand the reason for this, other than the price tag. If you look at the list, you will find cars that just don't add up to being better than the Avalon. Would anyone like to agree, or have something to say?
Toyota will take final orders for 2005 Avalons on 04/11/05.
Looking at Savannah Toyota allocation for 2005 Avalons, they expect their last Avalon on 05/09/05.
This coincide with when Toyota will start accepting initial orders for the 2006 Avalon which is 05/10/05.
The 2006 Avalon initial production will start sometime in July.
The initial delivery on the 2006 Avalon will start sometime in August.
Hopes this help those of us waiting to purchase the 2006 Avalon.
Tee
Or click on this link: Avalon vs. Maxima
I guarantee you that will work.
Does it play mp3 files?
I have posted to the new discussion a somewhat "lengthy" list of my wife's and my opnions on the two.....any comments welcome.
Mikeroch.
Tee
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Mackabee
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Mackabee
Is the 2005 Avalon a beta and the MSRP was set artificially low to get buyers (most of us think the car is a great value)? Why such a short production run on the 2005? Is it a test run basically to get stats on buying trends, peoples likes and dislikes, and manufacturing problems and then retool and come out with a better product for 2006? I have a gut feeling that the 2006 will be more expensive (more than the normal yearly increase because it will be in demand and better), offer more interior color options and more of the options on the Limited will be available on the other models (and maybe make the sunroof optional). I have no idea how much can be changed between model years.
I'm just throwing out thoughts (not facts) for others to comment. Being a programmer I don't know too much about this stuff.
Thanks for the info on the leather interior code numbers. Finally got that straight. Now only question is how to specify dark or light wood trim. I assume Graphite leather comes with dark wood only, but according to an earlier post, the Light Gray leather may come with either dark or light wood? Or is that not true? How do you specify exactly what you want?
Max
This is not to say that the Avalon is not luxurious to their owners.
I think Toyota may be doing the same with the new Avalon. It is getting excellent reviews for an excellent car and then Toyota will jack up the price because people will be willing to pay especially after Consumer Reports review it.
I can't really address quality issues between the American Made CTS and the American made Avalon with 75% of the Avalon's components made in the USA and the car assembled in Kentucky even though Toyota's parent is in Japan.
I don't know the component breakdown on the CTS.