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Mackabee
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Why do people not want all the "goodies" on a top of the line car?
Well let's face it, they put way more into a car than some people want or need. Why should we pay for it? My purpose is to buy a car that suits my needs and makes me feel good, not pad the saleman's retirement account and the manufacturer's profit margin.
Example:
I don't want a sunroof, I don't like the glare or the heat, and usually I'm on the phone or listening to the radio, an open sunroof is just wind noise to me. Yet, most of the top of the line models have one, and it's usually an extra $900 I could spend someplace else.
Now, just because it may be more difficult for you to sell a car without a sunroof isn't really my problem is it? By the time I trade that car in it will be beat into the ground and the lack of a sunroof or other option will be the least of your concerns, you'll just want to be rid of the car at that point.
I also don't want an XM/Sirius radio, thus, I'm not going to pay the extra $325 for one installed, I'd rather buy an I-pod instead.
The whole point of this is about purpose, it's about what we the consumer wants, not what you the salesman wants.........What's your purpose in that endeavor?
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Bluesman3, you missed the whole point entirely. I don't care what you want to buy. It's my job to sell what is on the lot or available from the factory. It has nothing to do with "padding my retirement account" (boy, that's a good one!)or what I want. The whole point of my illustration was that if the options are available on the trim level of the car you want from Toyota, then it can be built. You can't pick and choose options from an XLS to be put into an XL, or Camry, pick the model. If Toyota doesn't offer what you want then go elsewhere. That's the great thing about living in this country. We have plenty of choices.
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Mackabee
It passes for an "executive saloon", and not a "Japanese Buick".
DrFill
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Mackabee
I anticipate paying a courtesy call to my Sienna dealer when Avalons are officially for sale, but if (as I expect) they squat at MSRP, I will come and see you. I would think some "give" is in there for a deal on a maxed-out Avalon Limited (including nav and adaptive cruise control) and remote start (factory installed?), plus dealer profit on 72/100K Toyota platinum extended warranty and dealer cut on Toyota financing. Must also leave off pinstripes and other "packs" and any dealer logo. Who wants the deal the most? Have appreciated your straight talk. :-)
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Mackabee
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http://www.tundrasolutions.com/dealers/vehicles/2005-Avalon/index- .htm
Incidentally, the new Avalon will be known as 2005, not 2006. The oficial specs will probably be posted shortly after Mon, Jan 10, after the Avalon introduction at the Detroit show.
Reported to be:
280 hp
260 ft./lbs.
MPG:
22 city
30 hwy.
Very good numbers indeed! Now if they can only report having the throttle and shift response issues resolved.......
Let me tell you. My Sienna when it was brand new had the hesitation. Very minor but it was there. Fortunately now, 1260 miles on it, it is smooth as butter with no hesitation what so ever.
I guess it was the computer taking it's time to figure the driving pattern.
Nonetheless, pretty excited to see, touch, drive a real one - Tomorrow should be a big day...
live introduction of the 2005 Toyota Avalon will happen tomorrow at 10:30 a.m. PST / 01:30 p.m. EST
http://www.toyota.com/
http://autoshow.msn.com/as/default.aspx?shw=autoshow2005
If there is any que just ask he told me alot about it
are you looking for a hybrid?
i know a great car if you are
This problem seems to cross over several models (some heated discussion at the Highlander Problems and Solutions was the reason for the new forum) so it may be helpful to share experiences/solutions in a single forum.
It will debut at 10:30 am PST or 1:30 pm EST.
http://autoshow.msn.com/as/default.aspx?shw=autoshow2005
http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_library/display_release.html?id- =2005avalon_r2
Nice car but why no seat heater, traction or stability control on the Touring!?!?!? At least make it an available option....I thought this was supposed to be the sport model! I can go buy a Buick Lacrosse CXS for the same money and get these goodies.....
I guess I gotta wait for the 2006 ES 350.
Deeply disappointed,
It appears the XL is truly a bargain, and the XLS and even the Limited are priced less than I expected. But .... I just don't understand what they did with the Touring at all.
We don't need seat heaters but we do want VSC ! That should be a option on the touring.
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=100820
Should be this time next year we see the unveiling.
I wouldn't let this fact alone mar a great advance in their line-up. This car looks like a great success! But nobody's perfect.
It could be a Maxima.
DrFill