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I'm trying to decide between base x35i and premium. Is it worth to get base then add pkcg or get premium?
Thanks
to be honest, i do not have down to the exacts of what is included in the based and premium but it all broils down to can you live without what's included in the premium and if so, go with the base b/c it would save you a bundle. i'm still negotiating with my dealer for a premium. good luck.
Yup I saw your few post regarding x35i premium. How much you are offering to dealers for premium? Are you adding some options or just going for premium base?
Thanks again!
Since most of the dealerships are out of inventory, a new truck has to be built in SC so customizing is awesome now but you won't see much wiggle room in terms of negotiations. I added the Convenience, Cold Weather Pkg and running board. I went to several dealers and most weren't willing to budge except this one which I'm still hoping to squeeze a few more dollars off (hope they don't screw me as the Nav incentive ends in a couple of days) but chances are I'll most likely jump on the verbal offer. In addition to the Nav credit, I got the loyalty and Olympic drive so iin effect, that's $3730 off the invoice. Most dealers aren't willing to deduct that from the invoice for the obvious reasons but it is understandable that they too have to make a living as long as it's not outrageously greedy. Verbally, we have agreed on $52500 plus tax, dmv related fees. No MAACO. Still keeping my fingers cross and hopefully I can sing on the dotted line soon. Hope this helps.
We built an X5 Premium with the 3rd row, running boards, BMW APPS, black sapphire and oyster interior...picked it up on October 10th at the performance center and could not have had a better experience...it was incredible and the car is AWESOME!!!
In all honestly, if you can wait, wait it out a bit but I would say it'll have to be for the 2013 X5's since it will be redesigned - so I heard. Good luck and let us know what you ended up doing.
How do you get USAA membership, can anyone apply? If I get 13K bellow MSRP, I think the 2011 GL450 is good idea, they have them here in Ca
When is the new X5 coming out in 2014 or 2013?
As per insideline, it will be probably 2014.
http://www.insideline.com/bmw/future-vehicles.html
If you're affiliated with the military or any enforcement agency, you can apply for membership. I bought my first MERC through that program and it was a breeze and quite frankly saved me a bit. Regarding to the incentives aforementioned, that was two months ago however. The $6000 is still in effect (just chk'ed) and set to expire at the end of the month. I think the conquest is about the same but you can check with the dealership. The other $3000 was for the month of September as a way to encourage buyers to buy. So potentially you can still nail the $10000 through USAA if you qualify. I live on the East Coast so there were nothing here else I would've been driving the GL by now. Good luck hunting.
I got talked into buying the maintenance upgrade for $2000 (2yr/50,000 mile), and a tire/wheel warranty (5Yrs) for $1,100. Anybody have experience with these - good or bad?
i basically priced the '12 X5 the same minus the Siruis for $53000. This is after the incentives... nav, loyaty and olympic.. As for the maintenance pkg, not too familiar but heard it is decent if you decide to keep the car for longer than 4 yrs. You never know... the 2014 X5 comes out, you'll want to trade up.. The tire pkg is a little different. Had a word with the SA or CA, he highly recommend that protection as run flats can be expensive to replace. It all depends on the roads you drive on and how often so do take that into consideration. Hope this helps and good luck.
As a general rule, I would not pay for anything upfront. The 2k is too much for just oil, breaks and checks this and that. All these new cars do not need much maintenance under 100k miles. If I want to spend I would rather pay for extended warranty if you are planning to keep the car. These cars have many issues after 4 years. I own German cars and they are headache after warranty.
The tire stuff is BS, this is the dumest idea, 1000 for what??? Are you going to drive in the mountains?? Anyway these tires last between 20-30k miles max, so why not save the 1k for a new set and get your tires from Costco which has 40k tire warranty on Michelens tires. I get 40k warranty on my Mercedes AMG tires which wear after 18k and then I get credit for new set. I can't believe people can sell this stuff, paying 1k for tires upfront, only to spend another 1k on another set 20k later, how is that logical? Great salesman.
It seems the dealer gave you a discount on the car and will make it up by these empty offers. Save your money and use it for your next tire set in 20-30k miles.
what should I do now?
So here is the facts that everyone can get online except for point 6,
for X5 3.5 premium, there is,
1- $1730 credit for navigation
2- $1000 loyalty or if you take the team America test drive
3- Dealer is including $500 on top of invoice regional Marketing add fee, (which I think is BS, because you expect us to pay for your Water and Cable bills also, what kind of business is this??? Why BMW dealers don't be start forward with your customers)
4- $1270 hold back to dealer
5- Invoice 52160 including destination and marketing fee $500
6- There is X dollar rebate incentive to dealers based on the number of BMW cars they sell every month
So 1730+1000+500+1270+3915(difference between invoice and MSRP)=$8415 is the total markup on the basic 3.5 premium, that is 15% profit not including the Volume rebate.
So if you want to do business and work with online community we are happy to give you our business.
Also if you lease you have to pay about 700-900 acquisition fee, doc fees, etc. The interest dealer and BMW make on the 3 year lease for MF .00195 is about $5000-$6000 depending on the negotiated price. If the MF is .00235 the amount is more.
Have decent offer on a 2012 x5 premium with conveience and cold weather packages. I am considering just ordering base x5 35i and adding appropriate convenience package, heated seats, navigation, etc. This will reduce cost by quite a bit. It appears to me, however, that the base model does not come with privacy glass (tinted rear windows) and no option for it. Is this correct? Is the only way to get privacy glass on the x5 35i to order tohe premium package? Kind of a deal breaker for me so just curious if anyone knows the answer to this question.
Thanks very much!
you forgot to mention that you're in the market for a premium. At any rate, without any incentives, a good and fair price would be ~$57k. Now bear in mind that the current nav credit $1730 (you can read the past threads) expires tonight as well as the loyalty credit ($1k). @ over $60 for your build, the dealer is definitely taking you for a ride and if he/she included the nav credit, you might as well run away from that dealership as they're just not honest. Good luck.
i whole heartily agree with you that all businesses must profit in some way shape or form when it comes to staying in business and paying for all the overheads. It is really how much of a profit is considered fair to a company/firm.
Courtesy of TrueCars.com
Did you know that the factory invoice price and what the dealer actually paid are not the same? Yep, it's true. The invoice price for the 2012 BMW X5 is on average 2.496% greater than the actual dealer cost, so caveat emptor. The dealer's actual price includes at least $1,093 in dealer holdback, or funds that are provided to the dealer by BMW after the sale of the vehicle. The actual car dealer cost for a 2012 BMW X5 9.266% below the original manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP).
Can't speak for everyone (though everyone on this forum seems to be want the best deal) but I'm out there for the best deal and if I can secure one with little negotiating, I'm in.
There's a forum here on Town Hall "Stories From The Sales Frontlines" that used to be populated with sales people from various marquees. I'd really like you to come over and post some of your tales of selling BMWs (one of my favroite brands).
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I agree with most people here concerning extra protection for the car. DO NOT purchase any protection plans for the wheels/tires, protection plans for the exterior/interior (aka perma plate), or extended maintenance plans, etc. It's just another way for the dealers to make money.
For those of you wondering about time of delivery, I placed my X5d order on Oct 12, and it was delivered to the dealership on Oct 28 (from Spartanburg, SC to Arizona). I was told it would take around 4-6 weeks. I was surprised by how soon it was finished.
The X5 is simply a beautiful car!!! You will not be disappointed!!!
sunny skies and sand filled beaches...i'll trade the x5 for that. the incentives that i'm aware of up until oct 31 (some might still do it depending on the situation) are the nav credit which essentially isa free navigation but that has to be optioned in order for them to apply it. you are correct about the loyalty credit which pertains to 05 and newer bmw owners which qualifies you to a 1k credit for being loyal (similar to the newly conquest pgm thru Mercedes). the olympic drive event was mainly for state side - i think but that was just to test drive their (6 series) cars in support of our olympic team that resulted in 1k towards you new purchase which also expired yesterday. all in all, that was some pretty sweet incentives which i can't recall the last time that bmw had offered something similar. not sure how many bmw dealers in your area but i would ask around if there are more than one and do give bmwna a call to find out more about different incentives that your state is eligible for just in case you have doubts of any sales ppl. Also, if you go to bmwusa.com under financial services --> under loyalty offers, it does say $1730 option credit available under the 2012 financing offer and just to prove the point, i typed in zip 96727 and the same offer shows up so you may want to have a chat with your sales person unless you didn't select nav as an option on the build. Good luck on your X5 and tell us all about your purchase.
Black Sapphire Metallic
Black Nappa Leather seats and dash
Bamboo wood trim
Premium Package
Premium Sound Package
Sport Package
Multi-Contour Seats
20" wheels
Running Boards
BMW Apps
Space Saver Spare
Total MSRP: $69,725
Price after ECO and NAV credits: $61,700
I think this is pretty good and, frankly, I didn't have to negotiate too hard. I used TrueCar.com, contacted the best quote, got a new quote (they say that those prices are only for cars "in stock" which is nonsense), and then negotiated a little off that price and was done in one phone call.
My X5 xDrive35i
3.0 liter 6-cylinder with TwinPower Turbo technology
xDrive, intelligent all-wheel-drive
Base MSRP $47,500
Black Sapphire Metallic $0
Leather Nevada Cinnamon Brown $1,450
Dark Burl Walnut wood trim $0
Convenience Package $2,100
3rd row seat $1,700
Heated front seats $500
Navigation system $1,900
Destination & Handling: $875
Total MSRP as Built$56,025
With Navigation credit, Price is $49950 + tax + title
Is it good?
Space Grey outside/ Perforated Black leather in
Active ventilated Seat Package
Premium Package
Head-up Display
$55,600 + tax, titles, plates = 60,600 (NYC taxes)
I should probably have the car by the end of the month. Hopefully sooner! :shades: Btw, Amex car buying/zag was very helpful in getting the salesman serious about pricing I found.
So add that to your deal
This leaves the dealer with $1230 hold back plus volume rebate
I was wondering are these($1000 credit plus the $1730 nav credit) new incentives for November 2011?
0.9% Annual Percentage Rate Offer. $1,730 Option Credit available. $1,000 Credit Available.
I spoke to my dealer and he said, you have to take finance from BMW inorder to get $1000.
0.9% Annual Percentage Rate Offer. $1,730 Option Credit available. $1,000 Credit Available.
1Offers apply to current and former owners of a BMW Model Year 2005 and newer in the past 12 months, who purchase or lease a new BMW Model Year 2011 and newer. Consult your BMW client advisor for full program details. 1% APR reduction can be applied only against current posted rates on all new Model Year 2011 and 2012 BMW vehicles only. Special Lease offers may not be below .00005 on Lease/PrePay and below 0.01% on Retail/Select/OwnersChoice, once applicable program discounts have been applied. $1,000 loyalty cash may not be combined with other loyalty rate reductions. Offers subject to change. Subject to credit approval. Offers may not be combined. Offers expire January 2, 2012.
i might've missed your feed of what your order and how lucrative it was but if you don't mind share it with the forum members that way it could enrich everyone. With regards to your question, the dealer should've mentioned this to you unless you had other intentions of financing. In all honestly, I would try looking into financing it through BMW Financials....with the primary driver being the cash incentive which lowers your purchase price resulting in a little in sales tax savings. The flip side to this is if you can get a lower apr at another financial institution and through the life of the loan you can save $1g, then go with that solution else BMW is a better bet in my eyes. The catch to this is the dealer may run your credit and turn you down for bad credit score and propose a ridiculous apr in order to get that incentive. So all in all, a few factors to consider and evaluate. If you know for sure that you have good credit (if available, go in with your credit rpt to settle any doubts), go with BMW Financials. Good luck and tell us all about your experience.
The footnote is under loyalty offers. I believe you will get one of the below with loyalty offer if you are going to use loyalty credit. Not all of them.
- 1% APR Reduction
- Special Lease Offers
- $1,000 in savings
Under financing offers -all of the below still stand good.
0.9% Annual Percentage Rate Offer. $1,730 Option Credit available. $1,000 Credit Available.
With these new incentives for November, would it seem likely I should get the additional $1000 credit if I finance with BMW. I think if the incentive is BMW to customer, I should. I know the NAV credit was factory to dealer (which some dealers refused to give up when I was shopping)
I got an ok deal. Sticker was $61, 250 and I paid $56, 600.
Many of the dealers in my area Balto/DC metro would not do better than the price I got. Most offered a much higher price during my search. When I give my lowest offer, I did not hear from them again. All cars in this area are order only. No X5s on any lots.
Should I push for this credit (assuming the car comes in this month) or am I not eligible since it was not in the original deal. I did not make any finance commitments when I ordered the car.
You can always cancel the order, all x5 are built to order, the factory is set for just in time inventory, dealers do not stock them, even in California. If you qualify for the credit you should get it period, tell the dealer you will give your business to another one if they deny you.
TRADE
The trade is a 2009 X5 35d with 36K miles, in very good condition. No wrecks, non-smoker. Equipment includes the brushed alum running boards, premium pkg, cold pkg, nav, comfort access.
DEAL
Trade: 40,000
Payoff for Trade: 41,989
MSRP (2012): 63,925
Incentives: 2500 ECO, 1730 Nav, 1000 Loyalty
Cash down: 1000
BMW Select for 60mo. at 6.9% (ouch!)
Monthly payment: 830
Thanks in advance. Viva la diesel!
(1) I wanted to stay closer to a 750/mo. payment, and (2) I feel like they could give me the payoff value for the trade (41,985), and still make a good profit on the deal.
If you were in my position, and wanted to negotiate it down further - what would look to focus on? Trade value, purchase price, or both?