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1) When the E46 M3 was introduced with 340hp, there was a one year lag time before the Z3 M coupe and roadsters changed from the original 240hp to the new engine in 318hp.
2) The iDrive on the current 7 is still very different and much more complicated than the modified ones introduced in the 5 and 6 series.
3) The 3 liter in the 5 series in 2005 got the revamped 26hp, while the 3 liter X5 (E50) stayed at the 225hp for the entire model run
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2008 X5 4.8i, the details are as follows:
-BLK SAPPHIRE
-SAND BEIGE
-PREM PKG
-TECHNOLOGY PKG
-COLD WEATHER PKG
-REAR CLIMATE PKG
-SPORT PKG W/ 20” WHEEL OPTION
-COMFORT SEATS
-PWR TAILGATE
-COMFORT ACCESS
-RUNNING BOARDS
-IPOD/USB ADAPTER
-SAT AND HD RADIO
MSRP: $69,375.00
Dealer quote is $66,375.00
36 months / 10,000 mile Lease quote
$1,079.97 plus $2719.11 fees plus tax
What am i doing wrong? What dealer are you using making such a good lease and sales price? At that type of deal, I might just purchase.
In shopping for am X5 4.8, I have been presented with two options. Of course, I am trying to make a decision this month.
1) The dealer has a new 2007 X5 4.8 very well equipped. MSRP $73,370. Dealer of course wants to move it and the few remaining '07s. Offered it to me for $9,600 off, so $63,770. Yes, I know its an '07, but it loaded very well. I don't really care about the power lift gate or rear camera thats only available on the '08s. I get a new car ever 2-3 years, so this seems to be a decent amount off. *** I assume the $2500 rebate does not apply to this '07 (priority 3 car???)
on the flip side...
2) a 2008, again, nicely equipped. MSRP $72,620. Lease offer of: 36 mo 10k/yr $999/mo with $5,000 cash (includes taxes etc). I dont know what price is being used to determine this. I am told by my dealer this car has been a demo (priority 2 - center own use) and is also not able to reap the $2,500 incentive.
Both cars are fine and acceptable. I just am not sure which makes better since. This is not my best area. Can someone help? Insight? Does the incentive apply to the 07?
Thank you. Trying to decide quickly.
1) I punched in the numbers of your car, and you can get that same 2008 X5 for $888 per month, based on a selling price of $65500. So he is ripping you off of more than $100 per month. This is with NO down payment...just taxes and acquisition fee.
2) He is selling you the car at $69100 for you to be getting a $999 per month payment.
3) He is either misinformed or full of crap. Priority 2,3,4,5 ALL fall into the rebate/incentive of $2500. Only priority 1 (customer sold) cars cannot qualify. The other stipulation is the car has to have been in a dealer's inventory as of close of business on Feb 14th. It CAN be at another dealership and dealer swaps DO qualify, as long as its Priority 2,3,4,5 and in inventory as of Feb 14th
Just sent you an email.
FYI for others wanting to lease. Here is another tidbit factoid of the day. the Acquisition fee is another area where most BMW dealer make a profit. The posted Acquisition fee from BMW Financial Services is $575. I have seen some dealers charge as high as $875 for this Acq fee.
Dealers can mark it up to $825 for extra profit... and most do..
regards,
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Did you gave them as a payment the sale tax? Are you talking about almost 5000 dollars? depending on your state.
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Luis
I am returning my leased 2005 x3 at the end of this month. I am looking at a 2008 x5, 3.0 : dk green, tobacco interior, cold weather package, ipod adapter, rear entertainment system, mats, msrp 51125, invoice price 47500, quoted sale price 48994, acq fee 625, mf .00210, zero down- I was told for all fees and 1st mo I would have to pay 1745.25, monthly payments $710 for 12k, 36 months.The residual is 60%
Also, as an aside, I think I might buy this car at the end of the lease. Does this make sense to do?
Is that a good deal?
We live in Mass.
My X5 3.0si
3.0-liter, inline 6-cylinder engine
xDrive, intelligent all-wheel-drive
See all standard features
Base MSRP $45,900
Space Gray Metallic $0
Sand Beige Nevada Leather $0
Dark Burl Walnut wood trim $0
Premium Package $2,750
Rear Climate Package $900
3rd row seat $1,700
Comfort seats with lumbar support $1,200
Heated front seats $500
Navigation system $1,900
Running boards $300
Real Time Traffic Information $0
Voice activation $0
Destination & Handling: $775
Total MSRP as Built $55,925
X5 3.0si
MSRP $57,700
Invoice 53,105
Edmunds TMV 56,792
Purchase price $51,350
Is this a good deal - any problems with buying a demo? Thanks!
1) Every GM must be a polygamist, because every demo/loaner ever mentioned on the forums was driven by his wife.
2) The extra 3 months/5K miles is from the original in-service date.. So, if the car was put into service in October, the warranty runs 4yrs/3mo., or 55K miles from that point in time.. So, you'd actually have less than 4 years remaining.
3) The warranty extension means it has been put into the demo/loaner program.. That's not a bad thing.. but, it's on the vehicle history report.
4) $595 for the extended maintenance is dirt cheap.. You sure they didn't say $1595? This extends the maintenance plan to 6yr/100K from the original in-service date.
Good luck!
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I like the Bluetooth wireless option with the BMW Assist. Any opinion on the Bluetooth option?
How about comments on the various leather options or should I go with the least expensive napa?
Napa is most expensive leather. I chose Nevada simply because of the cooling seats and massaging seats which are great for long journies
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X5 3.0- msrp 62,070
X5 4.8- msrp 68,670
--Any thoughts??? thanx! I hear rumors of $500 over invoice, is that true?
Alpine white w/ Beige leatherette, light poplar wood
Options i want are:
technology package
Heated front seats
Automatic tailgate open/closing
ipod/usb adapter
running boards
3rd row seat???(maybe)
BMW assist???(maybe)
Has anyone think these two options are useful?
Any incentives in april or may?
Should i wait for deals near memorial day?
whats the price i should be looking for?
Any recommendation for dealership and salesperson?
I was thinking of going back to them and telling them if we are using the .022 money factor then I am willing to offer 62,250, basicially 1K over invoice.
Any opinions on this deal ?
* Dealer sells you a $62K car and tells you they don't make anything
* You shell out $62K for a car and you ask for a $250 discount
But we all know we don't buy a BMW thinking it is worth 62K, but we buy just because it is a BMW. If common sense was used, you should buy a $42K Highlander and put $20k in your pocket. But common sense is uncommon and most people (including me) don't have it at all.
Anyway, I was more interested if people feel this is a good deal. I am trying to get them down to a 62,250 price. They seem to be holding at 62,500 (1,250 over invoice). I was able to get them to throw in the BMW all season mats.
MSRP 66,625 (Plus the all season floor mats,not sure what they cost, say 150-200
Selling Price 62,375
No money down, 15,000 mi lease, 3 yrs, 981/mo.
What do you think???
please help!!!
3.0- msrp 62,870, offer of 58,900
4.8- msrp 69,970, offer 66,100
-any opinions if this is a good deal?
prem, sport, tech, cold, rear climate, comfort seats, comfort access, power tailgate, prem sound, ipod, sat radio.
msrp- 62,970
final offer of- 58,750
Any thoughts???
If it's May 9th or prior, then the deal isn't so hot. But if it's after, then it's good. (Price increase on most BMW's except X6, 1 series and M3 as of June 1st 2008 OR May 10th for ordered cars).
I'd try to buy one off the lot right now with the same set-up and shoot for $56,330 to $56,830. Very fair offer.
I have been told from my sources that Ffor cars purchased or leased from 5/9/08-6/30/08 BMW is offering a cash back, which your dealer may not be willing to share with you. The program is called "Option Credit" and basically BMWNA will reimburse the equivalent price of the Premium Package on the X5 at the time of purchase. This translates to $2505 off on the X5 3.0 and $1595 off for the X5 4.8. You can still be eligible for this offer even of the prospective car your are considering to purchase is not equipped with premium package. Once you negotiate your lowest price, then deduct the above amounts from your car and that should be your bottom price. Shrewd negotiators can take advantage of this and get themselves an x5 for below invoice. Now, go to your dealerships and give them hell
base MSRP $45,900
Premium Pack 2,750
Rear Climate Control 900
Rear Seat 1700
iPod connect 400
Total=$51,000
money down= 5,300 (tax and license )
and will include Sat radio and mats
2.9% at $973/month
I mentioned the BMW NA incentive for cash back on premium package and it was clear I wouldn't get an answer until it was clear I was further committed to the X5.
ANY HELP OUT THERE?? THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
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Thanks for the "Option Credit" tip. I'm hoping to get a X5 3.0 (with nevada, rear climate and iPOD) for around $42,000 plus 825 destination. Do you think this is possible?
Any other negotiation tips/tactics?
Greg
General rule is find the invoice pricing then add $500-$1000 to that price and that should be your purchase price. Now, with the option credit deduct the amount from the last value. To sum
Invoice + $500 to $1000 - Option Credit = the purchase price
May I ask for a little more advice?
I currently live in Baltimore, MD but am moving to Honolulu, HI in 30 days. There is only one BMW dealership in Hawaii, and therefore, I'm worried about not getting a reasonable deal if I wait to buy an X5 in Hawaii.
In Maryland, I've started talking with several of the dozen local dealerships. Is it possible for me to place an order with a local dealership but plan to have the X5 delivered in Honolulu, HI? How would this have to work, and would I have to pay any extra fees?
Greg
My advice to you is shop locally...you always get the best deal.
If you like, leave me your email and I will forward my sales manager's email and contact info for you to get in touch with. Their prices are always hands down better than the other Maryland dealers
I'm not sure you can pull it off, but if you were to do it, you'd be better off shopping for the car in California and having them ship it to the island..the shipping charges would be much less from there. If you can save $3000 or so, then it might pay off..
But, who knows what kind of service you'd get from the Hawaii dealer after that? I think trying to get the best deal you can from them would be the way to go.. Let them know you are considering other makes.. They might not have any BMW competition, but they've got competition from other makes..
Also.. the most important question... How do I get to move to Hawaii?
regards,
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Thanks.
36 months lease
2008 3.0 X5
Alpine White
Tobacco leather
Premium Package
Technology Package
I-Pod Adaptor
MSRP: $52,875.00
Negotiated price $49,995.00
$5,000.00 Total down
12,000 miles per year
MF= 00275
RV=55%
$717.91 + tax
I live in CA.
I have run the numbers on the Edmunds lease calculator and came out with a lower payment. Any advice on why?
Thanks!