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I've had 1 replacement set of rotors done; 2 turnings and am waiting (til September I'm told!) to get my 3rd set of rotors - and I've only got 10k kms on the clock! This is almost unforgivable design incompetence from a company like Nissan, in my view. The truck is, outside of this brake fiasco, a beautiful machine that lives up to or exceeds all my other expectations for 1500 series vehicle.
I just wish they could have designed the brakes better!
good luck!
-thene
this was a special deal, he had 3. The 4X2LE and 2 4X4LEs, I believe all 3 are gone.
In this situation, I was just in the right place at the right time. With gas hitting all time highs...
I love this truck...
spray in liner
tailgate extender
tinted windows
sliding rear window
6-cd player/changer
color:canteen
FFV
manual locks, windows
overhead storage console
60/40 Split bench
I paid 19,400+tax
Was this a good price or not?
"Thene" Any suggestions or insight?
are you looking for 4x4 or 4x2? being as though i am in the northeast, the majority of our trucks are 4x4. i did a locate and found the following truck:
2005 Nissan Titan LE CC 4x4
Red Brawn Exterior
Graphite Titanium Interior
DVD
Navigation
Off Road Package
Side Airbags
Sunroof
Tow Package
MSRP: $42,350
Invoice: $38,123
Is that what you were looking for? Like I said, there is one out here on the east coast (a second one has way more options)
-thene :-)
This was Almost there..I want a 4X2 with all those options you mentioned Except the 4x4, Off Road Package. Thanks so much for looking. I even called CHarleston, S.C. this morning and they had one with Sunroof and side airbags but steel interior. I have an appointment tomorrow to look at one with everything I want except its steel interior, so I may end up settling with that. COuld have been a worse settle. Still, a very beautiful vehicle..I'll let everyone know what happens..
But if that graphite/[non-permissible content removed] appears from somewhere before tomorrow evening..Who knows...
Brads
MSRP:$35540
Total invoice $32084
Doc Fee $599
Plus Taxes (6%) = $34643
Plus + title/lemon law =$34689
Less $2000 Rebate= $32689 (DOP)
Do any of you think this is an ok deal? This is the only smoke color truck around with the options I want and they know it. If this deal looks ok than I am going to go for it. Thanks for any input
-Utility Bed Package
-Utili-Track Sliding Bed Extender
-Floor Mats
$24,435 before TTL
$21,935 after $2500 rebate
I think i did about as good as I could do, and in my opinion it wasn't even that hard to get them down that low. Just used the info I found on this board.
*the 599 doc fee is tantamount to first degree assault using a purchase order. They'll tell you it's non-negotiable, but I wouldn't pay more that 100-150 for the minimal amount of work that they do for it. They will say they can't reduce the fee; I say fine, then reduce the price of the truck by $499 (or whatever you're comfortable with). You have to ask yourself whether it's worth it to you to maybe lose this deal (and truck) over the money (then there's that pesky notion of being taken to the financial shed).
**Holdback is about 3% of invoice. That's about $960. My tactic (sometimes I'm successful, sometimes not) is to split that. So there's anohter $480.
If this were me, I'd go back and ask for $975 off this truck, but at a minimum, I'd ask for a reduction in that ludicrous doc fee. I've fallen in love with many trucks over the years, but would have fallen out of love for $500+++!!!
Bottom line, what do YOU want to do?
Good luck.
I had ran the numbers the way you talked about and this is how it seems to work out.
BASE INVOICE $29,242.00
OPTIONS $2,172.00
HOLDBACK 3.00%
DEALER PROFIT 3.00%
DESTINATION CHARGE $670.00
GWINNETT TAX 6.00%
DEALER FEES including title/lemon ect. ....$644.00
REBATE $2,000.00
1) Base + Options = A $31,414.00
2) A – Dealer Holdback (3% OF TOTAL INVOICE) = B $30,471
3) B x [Percent of profit going to dealer] = C $914.57
4) B + C = D = $31,385
5) D + Destination Cost = Negotiated Selling Cost of Car (NSCC) $32,055
Drive out price (NSCC+Fees*Tax-Rebate) $32,878.55
$32,700 is what I have been offered. I hope I am not making a mistake. Thanks
Red Brawn 4x2 Sunroof/Navigation/DVD/Side airbags(If I had a choice would not have taken for the extra money)/Tow Package/ XM radio and the seats are Steel interior. Only about 4 left in California/vegas/Nevada regions. NO Graphite/[non-permissible content removed] interior with these options left.
Total: $35, 859 (Includes $100 over invoice) plus tax, license and $8.75 California tire fee. Grand Total $38,991.31 minus $2000 rebate OTD $36,991.31. I may have been able to haggle a few more hundred dollars because it was the end of the month. However, I knew this was the only one like this left in this region and I was tired of the research, plus I think it was pretty consistent of what others had paid and some have paid more. So I think it worked out. I am estactic(sp) Thanks for all your input.
One last question: Again what do you all think about getting the extended warranty? They tried like crazy to sell me that for 7yr/75,000 bumper to bumper for $1999 and if I had added it it would have worked out to maybe $20 more dollars a month but I was already about tapped as far as I wanted to go for this truck..I would like an extended warranty..Would be nice but what is the going rate? Was that a fair price for a warranty?
They were trying for an hour to sell me a lower warranty, and I kept balking, and then I surprised him when he offered this one not thinking that I would take it....
after 10 minutes of delay over the 5 year, I grabbed this one to his surprise...
$24, 750(after $2500 rebate) for a:
Titan SE Kingcab
4x4
Off road Pkg
Popular Pkg
Big Tow Pkg
Bedliner
That's best deal I could get out of 4 dealers. My buddy thinks I should have jumped on it because the guy might have been up against a monthly quota or a bonus goal. But I am hoping to get a better deal with this Bottom Line thingie and hope the truck I want is still there. Crossing fingers.
you were probably best off taking the offer you got yesterday...but i guess we'll see what the rebates do today!
-thene
I just hope I didn't piss off the salesman I wanted to do busniess with. I have a bad habit of convincing the salesman I will pull out my checkbook if they come down just a little bit more and then pulling the rug out from under their legs. I think the last salesman I dealt with actually wanted to sock me, after I pulled out of the last deal. Can't say I blame him, but I have my own interest to look out for as does he. I was hoping he would call me back, but he never did.
King Cab: $2,500 Customer Cash or $500 and 2.0%/36 - 3.0%/48 & 60 APR
Crew Cab: $2,000 Customer Cash or $500 and 2.0%/36 - 3.0%/48 & 60 APR
seems to have stayed the same as last month...
-thene
I appreciate the info anyway Thene. The dealer said I could get a 4.9 interest rate with 10k down for 60 months. I hadn't told him at that point that I only needed a 36 month loan program max. Any chance of a rate lower than 4.9 with the highest possible credit?
edit. that is with the rebate.
I will lose a bunch of cash going the 2.0/$500 route.
a lot of times, these "sales events" are nothing more than a advertising blitz - things have always been that way, but you may just not have known...
-thene
The greeter guy at the dealership(I always forget what these guy's titles are) told me that, "I am not going to lie to you, this month has been very tough for us" when I asked him about what the big domestic rebates where doing to their business. So I thought there was a good chance at some nicer incentives to move stale stock.
as far as rebates in general, you will find the manufacturers are going to try to ween the public off of them, by pricing vehicles closer to the real "transaction prices" that they are seeing...looks like rebates will be built into the MSRP...
either way, its still a great price, and a great truck, and you shouldnt worry about not having $8000 in rebates
-thene
You have been a great help thanks.
if you have a deal on $1300 below invoice, and then MINUS any rebates, i'd RUN not walk, back to the dealer and sign today...that's a fantastic deal!
-thene
p.s. - i am at work on my second to last day at the dealership, and have nothing to do, so i will be on here all day...
what region do you live in? i would just ignore that and negotiate like you normally would. if they dont budge, or try to push you onto the regional markup - walk. simple as that. there are plenty of nissan dealers around you i am sure!
-thene
-thene
-thene
I put around 300 miles in on Sunday. I ain't doing that again unless I have a good reason.
Titan KC SE
4x4 (no offroad)
Popular Pkg
Big Tow
The salesman told me $24,500 and its mine 7 weeks ago-- I drove to the dealership and was not at all satisfied with the service esp. concerning hidden charges and markups- So, we stopped contact for the almost the past two months...He called yesterday and asked if I was still interested in this deal, that his "boss" was very interested in wrapping this up...Is that a good price or could I go lower since its been 2 months since he gave me that original quote? Thanks in advance
-thene
I called one of my friends on the phone, he says I am being stupid horsing around like this, and "just go and get the truck already".
-thene
Where were you given this offer? I want that truck with those exact options and that is the best price I have seen so far - I am in SoCal but am willing to travel a long way for the right price,
Cheers
Current Configuration
11615
2005 TITAN 4X4 SE KING AUTO
K11-K
SMOKE, STEEL
Invoice MSRP
BASE $25,581 $28,300
FLO $90 $120
FLOOR MATS
POP $954 $1,100
SE POP W/BENCH ST
TOW $347 $400
TOW PACKAGE
USS $111 $150
UNDER SEAT STORAG
50S $0 $0
50 STATE EMISSION
Freight Charge $670 $670
Total $27,753 $30,740
if you take the invoice price and subtract $2500, you are looking at $25,253 plus tax, reg, and doc. if the truck above looks like what you are looking at, see if you cant get them to $25,000 plus tax, reg, and doc. who knows (in all honesty) how legit that other deal was, and with really cheap prices like that, you'll get scalped on financing, or they'll make you buy warranties, etc...the numbers are always made up somewhere else...
it doesnt hurt to give it a shot!
good luck!
-thene
I have a really bad feeling some massive rebates are going to be handed down and I am going to regret this but oh well. Everyone is telling me to do it, so here goes!!! At least I know my gut instinct was right if the prices come down.
But if I even smell of an added hidden fee or bloated finance charge, I'm walkin.
Thanks for everyone's help!! Wish me luck.
you are getting a great deal, and don't worry about what the rebates do - if it makes you feel better, when i bought my sentra se-r spec v, there were no rebates at all, now they have $2500! no big deal, i can afford what i pay, and i love my car - so who cares!
good luck! im sure you'll love the truck
-thene