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Nissan Titan vs. Ford F150



  • machaanmachaan Posts: 30
    If history is any indicator, Ford automobiles have been more unrealiable than Nissan in general.

    "Truck interrior of the year" is one of the better jokes I have heared in a while. I guess
    DVD player in a truck is more important than it's ground clearence or tow rating.
  • noobie1noobie1 Posts: 326
    Please! We of the Charger persuasion still whence; :-) A name that WILL live in infamy. :-) Comparing anything to Leaf is the ultimate insult! (Actually, he did have a history; Bethard was just so bedazzled by his "gun" that he chose not to look too carefully.)

    When you get right down to it, all this team and brand identification gets a little peculiar and, often and easily swerves into the extreme. I bought my truck because it had what I wanted. I looked at the other alternatives in it's class and decided it met my personal criteria better than the others (including but not exclusively the interior). A different criteria could have put me into a different brand. Perfect in every way? Hardly. I'm aware of its short-comings. But, why do I tend to whence when someone points them out? Is it true or false? Or criticize the brand in general? It's not honor or integrity at steak. It's just a truck, or a team, or a sneaker. Very peculiar. Hmm, do ya think marketing gurus have learned to exploit this tendency?

  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    So, how's all this looking at the real world working out for you?

    Buying a truck to meet your personal criteria? How would it be if everybody just bought what met thier preferences? We would'nt need salespeople. There would be a lot less advertising and we wouldn't know how badly we need something we don't have. Without comercials there would be no network TV. Everybody would have to pay for the channels we actually watch and we'd never know how bad our health is. And worst of all the econamy would be ruined.

    I'm going to go now and take my Nexium and Prozac and "chug" my fiber before it gets gritty.

  • noobie1noobie1 Posts: 326
    :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-). Stop trying to confuse me with the facts.

  • crosley4crosley4 Posts: 295
    I like the Titan, I may replace my 2000 Siverado with a 2005 Titan next year. Hopefully Nissan wil have many of the engineering issues corrected

    Leg room issues with Ford & chevy. I also own a 2001 Super crew F-150 that my wife drives. It has more room in the back seat area than my Silverado x-tra cab
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    i wasnt the one comparing f150 to leaf.

    i simply stated that, since the f150 is the best selling vehicle, its natural that it got more hits than the rest.
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    >>>When you get right down to it, all this team and brand identification gets a little peculiar and, often and easily swerves into the extreme.<<<

    In sociology it's referred to as "tribalism," and in general product allegiance appears to be most acute in the Canadian-American culture.

    Although representing the "extreme," people have died or been injured because of automobile brand loyalty.

  • I am comparing Ryan Leaf with the Titan. IMO Ford has been no.1 for years with the exception of some reviews I.E. Edmunds review rating Titan No. 1. this year like the no.1 draft pick Ryan Leaf.....

    San Diego is still paying that guys pay check...

    Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, during the "Things you wouldn't say to.... segment, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    I thought the Nissan salesman was comparing F150 to my teams biggest disaster.

    BTW "interrior of the year" is part of what makes MY F150 a yuppie truck. The GMC 3/4 ton hualed over 3000lb and was still comfortable enough.(Except empty)
  • ercrew/
    This truck may cause me to trade-in...

    "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"
  • It looks like you are confused on the term "Yuppie".
    Yuppies buy import/foriegn cars NISSAN, LEXUS, BMW, TOYOTA, VW cause they think it is cool/status. For example, the Nissan Titans is not expected to do any type work or go off-road. Look at some of the exterior color options, Sedona, Deep Water, Copper....

    Good interior for the high end version of the F150 is for us old guys that need A.C. and good seats but still need to get some work done. Big differance between the XL/XLT and Lariet/FX4.

    I do not see any Nissan Titans with tool boxes or cargo carriers. The only use of their 4x4 is a possible rain shower going to the grocery store.

    "I had rather be right than be President."
  • boomer1bboomer1b Posts: 348
    Which truck offers a factory snowplow prep. option? The Ford or Titan?

    "Good luck on this one now!"
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    It's British but owned by Ford.

    My F150 is not expected to do any type of work either. If it was I'd have kept the 3/4 ton.

    I used to deer hunt and hual firewood with my '95 Taco. Hy hunting partner still uses his Nissan Fronteer. I wouldn't think of taking a full sized truck off road unless you're talking about those dirt roads my wife's Mustang can drive.

    Boomer; Neither, stick with them big trucks for workin now. That F250 does but you don't get that yuppie interrior like them Chevy ones do.
    good luck
  • 1. Jaguar is import and British/European car. May be owned by Ford but it does not have a Ford Oval Emblem on the hood. Big time Yuppie car.

    2. You are good candidate for a Nissan Titan.

    3. Also, it is you that can't take full sized truck off road. This is an ability/skill set issue.

    4. "There are two categories of [full-size] pickup customers, traditional and modern buyers,&#148; said Larry Dominique, chief product specialist for Titan. &#147;The traditional buyers are the classic, rural buyers that were highly brand-loyal and bought millions of trucks. The modern buyers are those suburban families who wanted pickups for driving to work, towing boats, and for modern suburban lifestyles. We&#146;re primarily aiming at the modern yuppie buyers, because we know, going in, that a large segment of traditional buyers won&#146;t consider us, initially.&#148;

    Larry Dominique is dreaming on the "initially" statement.

    "Be true to yourself"
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    ! If it wasn't for Ford then Jags still wouldn't run.

    2. Drove one. Didn't like it.


    4 I guess I swing both ways. At work I have a 2 ton Isuzu a 2 ton Ford a one ton Chevy and a half ton Dodge. Off road it's been Toyotas whenever the Jeep (my first "car") is torn down.
    The F150 gets my boat to the lake, my raft to the river and my Jeep to the trail.

    For working I'll bring one of the shop trucks home. I trashed the GMC in 3 years and 50k mi
  • boomer1bboomer1b Posts: 348
    I checked the Ford site. The F-150 INDEED is offered with factory snow plow prep. on the NBS 04 ! The "classic" style did not !

    Titan..NO !
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    i like how you add silly little words in his quote like "yuppie". that word was never in there, and if you need to misquote someone to make a point, then you need to find somewhere else to bash.
  • mcscjtmcscjt Posts: 17
    Yes, the Titan is brand new and does not have the track record of the F150. But Ford has had over 20 years to get it right. The F150 should beat all the other trucks in every aspect and it still does not.

    For Nissan to build a new vehicle and do this well in its first year is a statement...and should motivate Ford to improve the F150.

    Edmunds new article on the "long term" test of the Titan is another great review.

    As for being a "yuppie" truck versus a "serious" truck. Yes, the Titan can go offroad but "serious" offroaders probably want something with higher clearence. But how many owners of pick-up trucks actually go offroading? Not many. Just like most SUVs, most trucks spend 90% of their time on asphalt.

    And if you are offended by the Titan, just get ready for the Frontier that debuts this fall with the same chrome face.
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    Is the King Ranch SUPERCREW a yuppie truck? Is it less of a yuppie truck than a standard cab Tundra with it's bigger box and higher payload? Less that the full sized Titan with the six and a half foot bed and higher payload?

    "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"
    Every year for the last 50. What have you got to loose?
  • glad to see you did your homework. Sorry for the typo....:)
  • keaneckeanec Posts: 349
    There are some here that have certain opinions that are so uninformed, it is really funny. Let's get back to discussing how trucks compare in reality...not fantasy.
  • foureyes3foureyes3 Posts: 165
    I think Nissan built a pretty good truck for the first year. Ford seemed to have built a prettier truck. I'm looking forward to the 2005 Titan. I'm wondering how much of an improvement will Missan have made with the 2005. Will everybody be complaining about the same problems with the 2005 model? Imports seem to always have a habit of making the domestics improve the products. I wonder if Ford will have a more competitive engine in its 2005 model. Nissan has a reputation for building long lasting durable vehicles. I'm confident that the Titan will last on up into the 200,000 miles and above range. The 2005 Titan will probably be even more competitive than the 2004 Titan.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    truck to truck, the titan is completely competitive.

    sales-wise, the nissan has increased every month since the launch in december. the goal was ~8k units per month, and they are right there.
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    More competitive engine? Not for '05 which will be here in a few weeks, but for '06 there'll be a 6.2L 340-350 hp 400 lb torque option.

    Nissan did make a very good first effort and '05 should improve the quality concerns.

    Both are first year models as the F150 was completely redesigned for '04. First year models are notorious for having problems that are worked out by consumers like GM's Allison transmission and Duramax diesel engine. For a first year model Ford seems to have very fow complaints.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    plans for another engine, but the rumor is for an inline 6-cylinder torbo-diesel for the f150...but the plans for that arent set for another 5-6 years.
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    Why would a Nissan salesman claim that Ford has no plans for the immediate future?
  • boomer1bboomer1b Posts: 348
    The first year tundra didn't have as many niggling problems their 1st year out as the titan.

    The only complaints were options not offered such as a trailer hitch, limited slip rear.

    A few others were not enough power, small cabin,
    tiny towing capicity.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    because i sell fords too.
  • I finally reach 16MPG in the F150. Engine is still breaking in. If you are a Ford owner and get the 6 inch lift, Ford offers the larger dual mirrors. The backup sensors do not detect low objects.

    The statement on trucks that do not go offroad is dependant on the region in which you live.

    Finally, one thing I like about Fords is the modifications that can be done with the truck.
  • kg11kg11 Posts: 530
    That IS funny.

    New Ford is slightly lacking in power but not much else.
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