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  • winfredwinfred Member Posts: 11
    Thanks for your info and recommendation.

    I am not an aggressive driver, but I do live in the city SF, with the traffic and hills. I drove around 15k miles per year. Now I have 22K in my car after a year and a half owing my car.

    I have a questions regarding the inspection I & II, which says that Mini dealership will replace the brake pad (not the dics though) if needed, and they did not replace it during my inspection I, so now I am in between the next interval, and my friend think my pad is getting thin now. I am wondering do I need to pay for replacing the pad now? Since it is a safety issue, I will do it no matter what, just want to make sure my dealer did not rid me off.

    Thanks
    :)
  • 69p1800s69p1800s Member Posts: 1
    Dealer sez their brand is Castrol full synthetic, either 5W-30, or 5W-40. If you get the S, you will void the warranty, and just be stoopid if you use anything BUT a full synthetic, as the main heat source will be either the supercharger or turbo, not ambient temp. I'm in Houston (also HOT), and will be using either Castrol, or Mobil 1 as there is no fundamental difference between them. reverse engineering being what it is. 5W-40 is my summertime fave, as its running viscosity is a little higher than the 30. Starting viscosities (the 5) are the same, so the engine will have to crank the same with either when starting.
  • joeminijoemini Member Posts: 4
    I have a 2004 Cooper that also had the Goodyear run flats.
    The dealer was going to replace them with a different brand(can't remember which), but I declined as I did not want the run flats any longer. The base Cooper has a mini spare mounted underneath the trunk.
    I went to Fuzion tires for my replacements. I put on 205-55-16
    tires as it is hard to find the 195-55-16 size.
    These tires were recommended by an independent mechanic that I TRUST. They are excellent tires and are very inexpensive. I ordered mine thru Tire Rack. Go to Tirerack.com and you can find all the info you will need.
  • socalfemsocalfem Member Posts: 14
    Can my 2003 Mini be taken to a regular brake place, or does it have to go to Mini ? I'm hearing my driver side front brake making noise
  • socalfemsocalfem Member Posts: 14
    Can anyone answer my question posted on July 22nd ??? :confuse: :confuse:
  • minime5minime5 Member Posts: 41
    Hey socal -

    I just had my first brake work done on my '03 Mini by a local mechanic - no issues. I know that is was a LOT cheaper than the dealer wanted for it.
  • socalfemsocalfem Member Posts: 14
    thanks minime5, can you tell me what it cost you ?
    I don't know where u live but I bet so calif is more, but who knows ;)
  • minime5minime5 Member Posts: 41
    Well, it cost me around $250 for the fronts.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    Then I wonder if it wouldn't be better just to go to a MINI dealer. It cost me between $500 - 600 to do all 4 brakes.
  • minime5minime5 Member Posts: 41
    You need to be careful - there's a lot of potential differences in the work that is done on a brake job. Pads, rotors, both?
  • socalfemsocalfem Member Posts: 14
    what do you mean potential differences ? :surprise:
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    Mine included front pads and rotors, rear pads, brake pad sensors, brake disks. The total cost was $575 including misc shop supplies, and taxes.
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    How do you get your Mini serviced if the dealer is 2 hours away? I'm just wondering because it seems like it might be a good second car for us but the dealer is very far and that would mean maintainance is also far away yes?
    Also does the Cooper S have a place for a spare tire if I decide to use GFT tires? I don't mean does it come with it, but is their a place to put one like in the base cooper. I can't just run down to the dealer until I get back to the US in a few months.
    Also how bad is the rear seat to sit in, very bad, tolerable or torture for a small sized adult?
    Thanks
  • gretsch6120gretsch6120 Member Posts: 48
    I don't recall there is a spot for the spare tire in the trunk? I recall they used that space to give the trunk more room.

    The back seat would be just fine for 2 hour trips and I'm 6'2" 225lbs. (if there is a smaller person sitting in front of me. This is key) For a small adult I think it wouldn't be an issue but naturally don't take my word on it go and test drive. The only trouble you would run into is if you had 2 large adults in the front seat. Then the back seat would be a tight cramped space almost unable to accomodate anyone but a child.

    I recall during my test drive that once I had adjusted the drivers seat to my comfort there was only some 4-5" space between the back of the drivers seat and the rear seat. Not much room for adult legs. It's a small car.

    -groove
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    The back seat would be just fine for 2 hour trips and I'm 6'2" 225lbs. (if there is a smaller person sitting in front of me. This is key) For a small adult I think it wouldn't be an issue but naturally don't take my word on it go and test drive. The only trouble you would run into is if you had 2 large adults in the front seat. Then the back seat would be a tight cramped space almost unable to accomodate anyone but a child.

    Thanks, I'm a fair bit shorter than you are and my wife is only 4'11" tall and I think it would be ok but we would have to test one first. The only thing is the 2 hour ride to the dealership for service and if they had to keep it overnight that would mean renting a car since I doubt they'd provide a rental.
    So I'm still wondering what people do who live far from the dealership? :confuse:
    Thanks
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    The back seat is fine unless, as others have pointed out, the front seat passengers are very large or tall. The troublesome part is getting in and out of the back seat. In that regard, if you are of smaller stature, or nimble (ie. kids) then it would help.
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    The back seat is fine unless, as others have pointed out, the front seat passengers are very large or tall. The troublesome part is getting in and out of the back seat. In that regard, if you are of smaller stature, or nimble (ie. kids) then it would help.

    Thanks, we will have to give one a try and see how it is. But our major concern is servicing the car, can a BMW dealer service it instead of a Mini dealership? The ride is so long to buy AND service it.
  • wongkidwongkid Member Posts: 23
    My 2003 "S" has no space for a spare. Due to high cost of run flats and performance, I ditched run-flats for high performance/reasonably priced Yoko AVS ES100 (from Tire Rack) and upgraded my AAA Auto Club membership to "Plus" status which gives me free 100 mile tow and roadside service. So, if I get a flat, they can fix it or tow me to a tire shop. Not exactly risk-free, but it works for me.
  • wongkidwongkid Member Posts: 23
    Sound from my factory Bose radio "cuts out" when I'm driving in high outside temperatures (95-100 degrees). Doesn't matter if radio or CD - it will be playing and then stop. Turning it off then on sometimes fixes it, sometimes not. Seems to work OK in lower temperatures. Also, does this stereo have a separate amplifier (if yes, where is it mounted), or is it a single head-unit/amp combined in one in the dash? Thx!
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    My 2003 "S" has no space for a spare. Due to high cost of run flats and performance, I ditched run-flats for high performance/reasonably priced Yoko AVS ES100 (from Tire Rack) and upgraded my AAA Auto Club membership to "Plus" status which gives me free 100 mile tow and roadside service. So, if I get a flat, they can fix it or tow me to a tire shop. Not exactly risk-free, but it works for me.

    I've read a similar thread on buying GFT tires and putting the RFT's in the garage and when you sell the car put them back on.
    Only problem is I travel in areas where a cell is pretty unlikely to work and in some remote areas and really want a spare tire.
    I still have no idea what to do about the lack of a nearby dealer and that could be a deal breaker for us on the Mini.
    I think GFT's are the way to go tho.
    Thanks...
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    This may be a dumb question, but what is GFT tires? :confuse:
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Go (or Get) Flat Tires as opposed to Run Flat Tires. ;)

    The first person I saw use it was shipo so perhaps he invented it. :shades:
  • gretsch6120gretsch6120 Member Posts: 48
    wongkid, why do you want a mini? Two hours away for service (if it can't be performed at BMW) is a huge deal breaker in my eyes. You'll have a 250mi round trip which will eat into your oil changes, milestone services, tires, etc. etc.

    Sounds like more of an urge-I-gotta-have-this-car to me.
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    wongkid, why do you want a mini? Two hours away for service (if it can't be performed at BMW) is a huge deal breaker in my eyes. You'll have a 250mi round trip which will eat into your oil changes, milestone services, tires, etc. etc.
    Sounds like more of an urge-I-gotta-have-this-car to me.


    I think wongkid was the guy who replied to me about the tires. As far as distance i am trying to find a work around if possible. and it's about 200 miles not 250 and my wife and I both like th Mini but I do not know if BMW will service the car which is why I asked in here.
    Mini has a very limited amount of dealerships as it is and that makes buying one difficult.
    There is no gotta have it urge and I don't see why you would make a comment like that? :confuse:
    We simply like care with a dealership that is not nearby and are asking what people do who buy Mini's, what they do if they do not have a dealer nearby them.
    I can always buy a BMW but i'd prefer a smaller car.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    "I can always buy a BMW but i'd prefer a smaller car."

    Wait for the 1 series.
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    "I can always buy a BMW but i'd prefer a smaller car."
    Wait for the 1 series.


    Yeah, most likely what we will do. My wife likes the look and fuel economy of the Mini but driving 2 hours each way not including service time is a deal killer. The Mini is $10K less but you get a lot of BMW for $35K roughly in the 1 series.
    I guess the Mini is only buyable if you live close to a dealer.
    Thanks for your help.
  • gretsch6120gretsch6120 Member Posts: 48
    steve I meant no disrespect. :)

    -Groove
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    steve I meant no disrespect.

    none taken, I should have used smiley faces and I was just a wee bit tired at the time. :)
    I'm a bit unhappy about Mini not having a dealership in New Hampshire but them's the breaks and you're right. Although I doubt it's 200 miles it's 2 hours because of traffic probably 70 or so miles each way anyway tho.
    A big repair would men a rental for a long time and distance to tow it to the dealership probably wouldn't be worth it.
    I appreciate your thoughts on the matter :D
  • cfilkinscfilkins Member Posts: 39
    Steve,
    My local Mini dealer has a program where they will come and pick up your car for service and warranty work, and they would travel up to 200 miles (or something like that). I think that they said it was $400 for the 3 years corresponding to the 3 years covered maintenance. Might be worth asking about...
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    Steve,
    My local Mini dealer has a program where they will come and pick up your car for service and warranty work, and they would travel up to 200 miles (or something like that). I think that they said it was $400 for the 3 years corresponding to the 3 years covered maintenance. Might be worth asking about...


    Thanks, I will check that out for certain when I get back to the US. The only thing is it will make the Mini a second car and not a primary one. but it's a very good suggestion. I will mention it to my wife and see what she thinks as we had pulled the Mini off our list.
    We will need two cars so it will depend on what i buy. But a great suggestion.
    Thanks! :D
  • wongkidwongkid Member Posts: 23
    Perhaps a simpler question to ask than answer: did you check with Mini if a new Mini dealership might be opening in New Hampshire "soon"? With their success and BMW's $$$ (OK, they did lose a bundle on Rover), surprising they still have voids in their dealer network. I like the 1 series idea too, BUT, typical issues with first year of a "new" car model plus likely "more than list" pricing when they first come out due to high demand. So, it will be +++$ vs a Mini. Good luck.
  • wongkidwongkid Member Posts: 23
    Perhaps a simpler question to ask than answer: did you check with Mini if a new Mini dealership might be opening in New Hampshire "soon"? With their success and BMW's $$$ (OK, they did lose a bundle on Rover), surprising they still have voids in their dealer network. I like the 1 series idea too, BUT, typical issues with first year of a "new" car model plus likely "more than list" pricing when they first come out due to high demand. So, it will be +++$ vs a Mini. Good luck.
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    Perhaps a simpler question to ask than answer: did you check with Mini if a new Mini dealership might be opening in New Hampshire "soon"? With their success and BMW's $$$ (OK, they did lose a bundle on Rover), surprising they still have voids in their dealer network. I like the 1 series idea too, BUT, typical issues with first year of a "new" car model plus likely "more than list" pricing when they first come out due to high demand. So, it will be +++$ vs a Mini. Good luck.

    Hi, I'm 12,000 miles away from where used to live so it's not all that easy to call up a dealer. In fact it's tough to reach the US from here period. We don't have a landline where I live because they don't have enough service at the pole so after 18 months still no phone. We mainly use cell phones like everyone else. To make International calls we can drive downtown and call from a place that is open 24/7. But it's expensive and not very practical.
    You can't dial 800#'s either.
    The dealership does handle the various surrounding States at least according to their website.
    The 1 series is a viable option because it's got enough size (i think) it looks bigger than the Mini but it's so heavy almost the weight or a 3 series!
    200 lbs. less.
    But the engine has been out now for almost a year and the 1 series is mostly a hatch over here and elsewhere but no hope of getting a hatch. Top Gear did a segment on the 1 series and they picked a VW Golf R32 over it, or some type of VW Golf. They weren't big on the lack of rear seat legroom but Clarkson is a big guy and like 6'4" tall. So for him most cars are small. The extra $10K is a LOT of ca$h to pay out tho.
    We will check with Mini and email them and see if any dealers are being added. i think they have an email.
    Any model we get will end up being a 1st year model unless we buy a Honda Fit.
    So we know we will have that to contend with.
    thanks. :)
  • actualsizeactualsize Member Posts: 451
    We recently added a 2007 Mini Cooper S to the Edmunds Long-Term Road Test fleet. As usual, it'll be with us for a year.

    Even before the introductory article went "live", we suffered a nail puncture and slow leak in one of our Dunlop RFTs. The TPMS system did its job, so we never had the thing go fully flat, but problems with supply and high cost are described in this blog post.

    Twitter: @Edmunds_Test

  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    Even before the introductory article went "live", we suffered a nail puncture and slow leak in one of our Dunlop RFTs. The TPMS system did its job, so we never had the thing go fully flat, but problems with supply and high cost are described in this blog post.

    I read the article when it first came out and was really impressed that the issue was addressed and not glossed over. I think that I would swap out the RFT's with GFT's (Go Flat Tires) and use a kit to pump up teh tire if it goes flat, although a donut spare would be ideal.
    The problem with RFT's is that if you get a flat at 2am on a Saturday night in the boonies, you are screwed. Also even worse if you have to wait 2-3 days to get a replacement. I'd probably just buy an additional rim and keep a tire on it at my house for an emergency. Of course it depends where you are at the time when it goes flat.
    I really want BMW to give the option of a spare and GFT's or RFT's instead of forcing a new car buyer to jump through hoops to buy tires that won't be problematic and the people who say well how many flats do you get anyway? Well it depends if there are new houses being built in your area as well as road construction and what is open past 10pm at night?

    I think it will be a great blog to see how teh new Mini does,since my wife likes the car but how do people who live far from a dealer get servicing and maintainance?
    Must be great if you have a dealer within 20 minutes but for me it would be 120 minutes if there is any traffic.
    Would that cause many people to not buy a Mini?
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    "The problem with RFT's is that if you get a flat at 2am on a Saturday night in the boonies, you are screwed.'

    But can you not drive for a period of time on a flat RFT, as long as you don't exceed a certain speed limit?
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    But can you not drive for a period of time on a flat RFT, as long as you don't exceed a certain speed limit?

    Yes I think it's something like 50 miles which depending on where you live might or might not get you home. Most of the places I would go at night do not have 24/7 service stations and AAA is a very long wait, providing you have a cell phone or can get to a pay phone. If you live in the City or have a lot of places open all night you are ok, but I've been to many places where you WILL get screwed if you get a flat in any kind of tire. The Mini is such a nice car and we'd really like to consider one more than we are and the price is right, but that one time you are stranded for all night on the side of the road will put you off to RFT's. Also after the tire goes so far it basically gives up the ghost from what I understand. So after so many miles you could end up on the rim.
    I'm thinking that mini should have left the room for the spare in there and offered it as an option but BMW isn't doing that anymore and the new BMW engines don't even have an oil dipstick so you have to rely on the computer!
    I need to figure out what my options really are if I am to buy a Mini but chances are with all I am hearing and the dealer being 2 hours away, it's probably not the right car for me. :sick:
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    "...the new BMW engines don't even have an oil dipstick..."

    Really?? Which models/engines are those?
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    "...the new BMW engines don't even have an oil dipstick..."

    Really?? Which models/engines are those?

    The new 335i for certain and I think even the 328i as well. It's been discussed quite a lot on the BMW forums. many people are not happy that the only way to check the oil is for the dealer to drain the oil and measure it! :surprise:
    For me that's a bit much. But it's a common topic. I think the Mini still has a dipstick and all that, but BMW is moving away from any type of maintainance you can do yourself. I mean no dipstick in a $30K+ car? :mad:
    That combined with RFT's is making me shy away from BMW and if they keep having problems it will eat into their sales. The new JD Powers 2007 survey results came out and BMW has really dropped.
    I'm just hoping I can find a way to make a Mini work for me in my situation but it's not looking good at the moment.
    :cry:
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Many of the newest BMWs and Mercs don't have dip sticks anymore. I think anything redesigned within the last two years has lost its dipstick.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    But when you think about it, in this age of electronic this, and electronic that, when we have cars that can park themselves for crying out loud, poking a stick in a hole to measure the oil level seems ironically primitive. And you have to meet certain conditions in order to get an accurate measurement. ie. the car has to be idle for a certain period, the car has to be sitting on level ground, etc. Just seems primitive. I don't see why all cars cannot have some sort of electronic readout gauge on the dash, similar to the gas gauge, that gives you a real-time readout of your oil level (does the LR3 have this already?). I think the move away from user-serviceable parts may have merits because I think only a small % of the driving public actually knows, or cares, enough to do proper maintenance themselves. So it could be argued that, overall, it may actually be more cost-effective to put the job in the hands of professionals.
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    But when you think about it, in this age of electronic this, and electronic that, when we have cars that can park themselves for crying out loud, poking a stick in a hole to measure the oil level seems ironically primitive. And you have to meet certain conditions in order to get an accurate measurement. ie. the car has to be idle for a certain period, the car has to be sitting on level ground, etc. Just seems primitive. I don't see why all

    It's hardly rocket science tho. You park on level ground and shut the car off and wait a few moments and then you pull the dipstick out, wipe it off, reinsert it and then pull it out and look at it. There is a line it will either be at, above or below it.
    Quite simple really.
    Far too many people rely on gadgets which can malfunction and when they do and it's a big repair the factory is going to try and weasel out of fixing it.
    I'm in favor of making all drivers being required to actually learn how to drive before they can get a license including them changing a tire, putting in their own fuel and checking their own oil and water level with no gadgets. Oh and checking tire pressure as well.
    Plus they would have to pass real driving tests in order to pass, not just a 3 point turn and parallel park. I'd also make learning a manual transmission a requirement.
    I know this could never happen but I would do it if it were possible. Too many young drivers have no clue how to drive a car they just use it as though they lived inside a giant speaker box. When they push it they stuff it into a tree.
    But to stay on topic The Mini doesn't do anything but have RFT's at this time so it's good. ;)
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    "It's hardly rocket science tho. You park on level ground and shut the car off and wait a few moments and then you pull the dipstick out, wipe it off, reinsert it and then pull it out and look at it. There is a line it will either be at, above or below it.
    Quite simple really.
    "

    True enough. But, let's say, hypothetically, you also have to go thru a similar procedure to see how much gas you have left in the tank, would you feel the same way? ;)
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    True enough. But, let's say, hypothetically, you also have to go thru a similar procedure to see how much gas you have left in the tank, would you feel the same way?

    Well for starters you use Gas up, Oil in general should not be used up. Yes a little bit burns up sometimes on some cars, but it's not a constantly refillable aspect of your car and If you fill up you car with too much ga$, then you will just pay more. If you put too much oil in your car you will damage the seals and gaskets and have real problems. So hypothetically it's not comparable.
    Oh and in case you want to hypothetically make it the differential fluid or the tranny fluid then. The rear diff has a plug, take it out and insert your finger. No oil, problem! overfill it and it will pour on the ground. The tranny fluid has a dipstick and probably always will, but is less likely to have problems than engine oil.
    So arguing for a completely computerized car it should be one that requires zero lubrication. Maybe sealed electric motors or something. although those would take a beating in the snowbelt.
    BMW has already had problems with oil issues and they are well documented in that forum.
    Mini has other issues but at least it still has all the bits that matter.
    Funny thing tho that no one rallys the new Mini and yet the original Mini was a real champ at Rally's. I wonder why that is?
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    "Funny thing tho that no one rallys the new Mini and yet the original Mini was a real champ at Rally's. I wonder why that is?"

    Because everyone is still rallying the old MINI? The new MINI doesn't offer a significant power advantage but is less visceral than the old MINI.
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    Because everyone is still rallying the old MINI? The new MINI doesn't offer a significant power advantage but is less visceral than the old MINI.

    Could be except parts are a nightmare to get and the old mini's are plagued by electrical gremlins. I even hear the original mini owners making mini jokes about their cars. They sure love them tho.
    I still wonder if the New Mini would be good to Rally tho?
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    "I still wonder if the New Mini would be good to Rally tho?"

    I would think so, since the New MINI hasn't really strayed too far from the old blueprint.
  • sellaturcicasellaturcica Member Posts: 145
    Maybe in a FWD rally class. Eaten alive in an open class.
  • stevecebustevecebu Member Posts: 493
    Maybe in a FWD rally class. Eaten alive in an open class.

    I spoke with the RallyX people and read up on the results, no one is using a Mini except for AutoX.
    Tons of Subaru's tho.
    They divide it into classes like FWD, RWD etc...
    So you aren't going to put up your FWD anything versus a tricked out EVO Rally car.
    The Mini just isn't rallied any more.
    That's ok tho. I was just curious.
    Thanks
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Well open class monsters have so much power that they have to be AWD to handle it.

    The limiting factor in rally is traction but I think a MINI would do well in the old group 3 SCCA rally class. With the collapse of the SCCA rally though I don't know all the rules and regulations anymore.

    Keep in mind that Dodge dominated the old group 3 class with the FWD only SRT-4 Neons.

    I have thought about campaigning a stripped Cooper S with the quafie in the FWD rally class. Its gotta be a stripped model though to reduce weight a minimum and sealing up that enormous panoramic sunroof would be a PITA.
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