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I have some MORE issues right now...the intermittent rough idle (mazda says's it's normal) it's worse now, the creaking brakes (mazda says's it's normal), the noisy window (supposedly fixed according to TSB but it's not), and now they creaking over speed bumps (mazda says's it's normal).
Mazda is LOW in the reliability department. For those that are lucky and dont have much problems, count your blessings as your experiences are NOT typical.
And Mazda has had over a year to iron out the kinks in their new models. The 05's are only negligibly better than the 04's. I suspect the 06's may be much better, but only time will tell.
With a black interior you would think they would make a kick [non-permissible content removed] A/C system.
2005, GT, 2.3, Sedan, Tinted windows
Not according to Consumer Reports. Above average reliability for the 3, including the first year
I don't really cares what CR - JP Power or any of the car rags say - WHEN I KNOW FIRST HAND - because I have been fighting defects for almost 2 years now - that the Mazda3 has many many many issues -
Please don't try and use the excuse that my problems are a very small % of the cars sold because that means nothing to me or anyone that has a defective car. The way I look at it 100% of the people who bought a Mazada3 with a weak AC system have NOT had the defect fixed.
Would Mazda come out with a TSB if a very small number of cars have a problem? Hard to believe Mazda would say - two cars have a grinding brake problem - we need to issue a TSB ASAP! I don't know what the number of cars must be effected before Mazda issues a TSB - but it seems reasonable it would be in the thousands.
The Mazda3 is a nice little car - of all the econo boxes I tested it was the most fun to drive - by a wide margin - but please don't confuse fun to drive with reliability and good customer service after the sale.
Want a fun to drive car that doesn't cost a fortune - the Mazda3 should be on your short list - NEED a reliable car from a company that stands behind what they sell - then you should be looking some place else.
In addition I do not appreciate complainers from Canada who suggest that I am.
It is certainly much warmer and more humid in Florida where I purchased my Mazda, and in Georgia where we live.
Our Mazda 3 5 door - Lava Orange - Automatic - with Black interior- cools very well and the AC does NOT suck.
Mazda has provided superb service and clearly produced an outstanding car, and Consumer Reports and Edmunds tests and evaluations support this.
I wonder if he could be right about this - most of the AC complaints on this board seem to be on the sedan - a few people who own the hatch are always piping up with how great their AC is. Always helpful to hear about cars that don't have any problems - so they don't need any solutions. Because if it wasn't for theses posts all we would ever see on this problems and solutions board would be problems and solutions.
Because, if not, he has this backwards... Wagons, hatches, SUVs, etc... ... get much hotter inside than sedans, if windows are tinted the same... You have a much larger glass area, and more inside space to cool...
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Since we have several sedan owners who seem to have AC problems - and no HB owners complaining (actually the HB owners seem VERY happy) it would seem like there may be something to this theory.
Well, Bill, you're entitled to your personal opinion as are the rest of us. The value of Consumer Reports is that it collects individual opinions to propose a wider public evaluation. In the estimation of many (including myself), the Mazda3 is a reliable car. This is to be expected considering the Mazda3 is part of a long lineage going back several decades of reliable compact cars (GLC, 323, Protege) built by Mazda.
A recent issue of Consumer Reports showed that reliability in the first and second year of many brands (including Honda and Toyota) is lower compared to succeeding years. That does not surprise me. Which leads me to the assertion that the latest Mazda3 is likely the best so far. That's not because the earlier ones were unreliable but because it takes a while to work out the initial bugs of any new model.
Finally, going on a rant is a poor way of arguing one's case. In other words, keep cool.
I did have the misfortune of having the car not start on an incline when I was below the empty; it still only took 12.x gallons though
The only reason I know this is because my old Protege'96 had the same statement in the manual. In the 1996 manual, it stated that I would have 1.5 gallons of gas left once that warning light turns on. I assumed it was the same with the Mazda3. The Protege would hold 11.5 gallons of gas, and I would typically need to refill 10 if I ever hit that light.
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Shifty the Host
As for the too many A/C postings, many from the same guy, I have an '04 hatch built in May that year, Winning Blue with blue cloth, and the A/C is just fine.
The bicycle topic. Fitting a bike in back was a huge consideration and with the front wheel off my bikes fit in easily.
Daryl
Problems without remedy suffered by profoundly dissastisfied owners should probably be taken up with an attorney/lemon lawyer, not here.
Avoid spinning your wheels in other words.
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Host
I might be totaly out of line here, and I apologize in advance...but.... teenage son? Are you sure that the dealer isn't correct that there was nothing wrong with the steering? Perhaps it was something wrong behind the wheel? I have raised 3 kids thru the teenage driving years, and believe me, more fault can be usually placed with the kids lack of experience and not wanting to loose their driving privileges, rather than the car being at fault.
First off, I don't know where some of you are saying that CR has the M3 as a reliable vehicle. Doing a quick search on Google, I found the following link and nowhere does it mention the Mazda3 being reliable car: http://www.carlist.com/autonews/2005/autonews_204.html
http://www.cnn.com/2005/AUTOS/10/26/cr_most_reliable/
To be recommended by CR, the vehicle must have performed well in Consumer Reports' tests, have at least average reliability based on CR's surveys of its subscribers, and have performed adequately if crash tested or included in government rollover tests.
I recall reading somewhere that in 2004 the Mazda3 was recommended or reliable by CR. The info was in July or the summer. I say, "holy toledo batman", the Mazda3 has hardly been out and you recommend it without any reliabilty data? Hmmm.
The JD Powers company is big, probably bigger than CR in terms of conducting surveys and as far as I am concerned is probably the most accurate in terms of sampling.
All too often some people read into something that is not there. Just like one poster commented that he thought JD Powers had listed the Mazda3 as 4 stars or something like that in reliability when in fact he was looking at Mazda's appeal. That's understandable and can happen. When I provided the specific link he saw what I was refering to.
Everyone is free to believe what they want. That's fine, but if someone tells me that the Mazda3 is reliable, I insist on knowing the source and for the person backing up that information with tangible objective and verifiable information that is relative. So, show me where. Maybe I got a lemom. However, information supplied on Mazda3's reliabity indicates that it's not the best. Driving a fun car or a car that gives you good bang for your buck does not make it a reliable car.
Might want to get that spell checker working before your mom or one of your relatives complains. :surprise:
p.s. Consumer Reports posts information about automobiles on their website for everyone to see; the Mazda3 is listed as "recommended".
And, secondly I noticed Mazda said not to use gasoline containing more than 10% ethanol or ANY methanol. How are we to know? What would happen to the engine?
Thanks for any illumination you can provide.
It seems to be coming from the passenger side dash, though one person I recruited to help locate the exact location thought it was from somewhere under the seat. Everyone else thought it was from somewhere inside the dash, higher up rather lower in the footwell.
Its a uneven metallic clicking sound, and will even click on relatively smooth roads giving me the impression that its something like a suspended piece of metal shaking and hiting another anchored metallic piece.
I have tried removing absolutely everything from the all the storage areas, and have even removed the stereo and the central part of the dashboard. Didn't find anything there.
I am wary about taking the section with the airbags apart; besides I can't figure out how to do that. I would also like to take out the glove box and check behind that.
Anybody have any ideas? Or help on how to remove the passenger side dash panels? I would really appreciate any help on this. Its driving me nuts and I really only want to take it to the dealer as a last resort. :mad: :confuse:
Thanks in advance.
Anyhows, cheerio and good day.
BTW - Is your vehicle a stick or automatic???
http://www.finishlineperformance.com/mazda3/docs/0035.pdf
http://www.finishlineperformance.com/mazda3/bulletins_index.html
Automatic; I would have loved to get a stick but a incomplete knee injury recovery has permanently put a damper on that.
Regarding TSB0035, I am pretty sure this isn't what I am experiencing since a) my VIN is higher than JM1 BK**** 51 271699 and b) its not one-time, it will occur with even mild rocking or uneven road surface; even at constant speed (no gear changes).
On more thing I should mention is that I have an XM receiver installed, but as part of my efforts to locate the source of the noise, I removed it entirely. No dice.
Any other ideas? Can anyboady tell me how to remove the glovebox? And how about removing the dash panel above the glovebox where the passenger airbags are? Like I was saying in the earlier post, I completely removed the stereo and the dash panel above that (where the hazard lights button is) and determined that the clicking is not from there. Sounds defintitely like from the glovebox area (glovebox 100% emptied).
Should I start to expect better gas mileage soon?
I would.
My first tank of gas, 2.3 MT, was in the low 30’s.
The lowest I’ve attained was 26mpg and that was driving like a maniac (WOT, 5000+rpm).
If I driving conservatively I can achieve low 30’s, normal driving I usually get 28-30mpg; 70% highway 30% rural/suburbs.
Has anyone else had this clicking/rattle noise? Help us out!
I have finally given up and decided to pay the dealer his ound of flesh! I am scheduled to drop the car off tomorrow. I'll post as to the outcome.
My current question is about how poorly my car turns on and off, since the pump was replaced, it seems to shake and studder for a few seconds before it turns off. I was told the starter would end this...but post-starter replacement, and the dealer is just trying to ignore it. I don't want to pick it up, if there is still an issue. Too many bad breakdowns this year!!
Any feedback would be great.
thanks
BTW- Those of you who posted links to the Service Bulletins rock... I can finalyy make them fix my brakes.
Can you post any details about the shift shock - I can't seem to find a TSB on it - I plan to go in for an oil change on Monday - and like you have experienced - have much better luck if I have a copy of the TSB to back up my complaint.
Are you saying that CR doesn't have good reliability data for automobiles?
When I HAVE DIRECT personal experience about how (good or bad) a company treats its customers I go by what I know is a fact not by what CR says.
What good is CR if they don't highlight the common problems that a car has - all they would need to do is go look at all the TSB's that the 2004 Mazda3 has - how could anyone rate a car with this many defects as having good reliability?
When I HAVE DIRECT personal experience about how (good or bad) a company treats its customers I go by what I know is a fact not by what CR says. "
It's a fact for YOU, as unfotunate as that is. But it's one sample.
"What good is CR if they don't highlight the common problems that a car has - all they would need to do is go look at all the TSB's that the 2004 Mazda3 has - how could anyone rate a car with this many defects as having good reliability? "
They are just reporting what the owners in their survey have said - and that is a much larger sample.
There are problems with SOME cars in every model on the planet. Look at some of the Honda problems, and they consistently are rated very high. Because most people don't have problems
Might want to get that spell checker working before your mom or one of your relatives complains.
p.s. Consumer Reports posts information about automobiles on their website for everyone to see; the Mazda3 is listed as "recommended".
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I didn't see that Consumer Reports currently "recommended" the 2005 Mazda3. I also looked at MSN's car site and they have CR info. For the 2005, they indicate that "no reliability data" is available.
Nobody has provided a link to say that it is reliable(2004 doesnt cut it). OTOH, I provided links where it is not. I also believe that the JD Powers info is the most accurate. 'Nuff said on the subject.
As far as the "shift shock" issue, my dealer actually told me about it...then i saw it mentioned many times on other forums. I did see it on a TSB for the mazda6???? But your dealer should be familiar with it...every mazda 3 seems to have this problem. Hope this helps...
So do/did you have problems turning on off your car? It is really the shaking and not-cutting off of the engine that i am worried about. My car feels 15 years old!!