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3k is pretty much out of the range with financing,
but 2k should be possible with cash payments for a 09.
won't hurt to go start off really low. Negotaited for about 2 hours, and was close to a deal with 0% financing. will see if they call me back.
I also received an offer of $14449 plus tax, tags, etc for a Mazda 3 s Sport with no additional options from Capital Mazda in cary, NC, but I went with the i Touring Value Edition because of the better gas mileage, sunroof, and car color. Speak with Rick Pederson, he was absolutely fantastic and very helpful in getting me a very good price from the sales manager.
The other solid option that I received was from City Mazda in Greensboro, NC for $14500 (since reduced to $14300 which still wasn't enough for me since the car already had 350 miles on the odometer but by then it was too late and I was already in the process of accepting the offer for the car that I ended up buying. I offered $14k on it, but was told no dice and 2 days later I had found the car that I wanted.)
Hope this helps everyone out know what exactly is available if you're in the market for an 08 Mazda 3.
Best of luck to everyone and Merry Christmas!!!
As far as "out the door" pricing goes, I find that it's rather hard to compare between users because we very well may live in different states that charge different tax and tag and registration fees (I live in NC where my tax rate is 3%, the dealership doc fee was $289 which was a good bit lower than some others out there but wasn't the absolute lowest I had ever heard of, and tags were some other amount that I don't remember). All of that being said, I was offered $14700 via an internet quote (including destination/delivery) plus tax, tags, and doc fees for an "out the door" price of ~$15609 (not sure of that last digit but it's in that ballpark) for a 2008.5 i Touring Value edition with manual transmission and the moonroof/6cd package. The MSRP was $18355 as listed on the sticker, so I figure I got the car for $3655 under MSRP which seems very good to me (I did other research into dealer cost which also said this was a good deal, but this metric was the easiest to list in the forums).
Like I also said, I was offered a base 08 s Sport for $14449 plus tax, tags, and doc ($397 at this particular dealership) which I felt was a good deal, but I wanted the 2.0L engine for better fuel economy (not that it was that much better in terms of mileage, but it was cheaper and I couldn't really tell a whole lot of a difference in terms of responsiveness and acceleration!). I considered a hatchback, but really didn't like that you had to get the 2.3L engine in the hatch and I didn't really "need" the added versatility that it affords because my wife has a Ford Escape that we can use to carry around bigger items. So all of that pushed me into the i Touring value edition package since they made a lot of options standard and didn't raise the price all that much over the earlier 08 i Touring vehicles.
Assuming you don't know this already, Mazda has a great feature on their website where you can search all of the cars on their dealer's lots and show you those that are available in your selected model/trim level (link title). When you find a car that you are interested in that has the options that you are interested in, you can then click the "request a quote" button and input your information and the dealer will email you a quote on the car that you want (most of the time!)
I'm not too familiar with s Touring HB pricing, so I'm afraid I can't say whether the price you were quoted was good or not, but there are enough resources out there that you should be able to calculate the actual dealer cost of the vehicles that you are interested in and even account for dealer holdback in the equation (2% of base MSRP for Mazda from what I have seen on the net). At this rate, you really should not be paying anything more than what the dealer payed for the vehicle (+/- $100-$200 depending on how long you are willing to wait and play a game of chicken).
Remember to always be willing to walk out if they don't meet your definition of a fair price for the vehicle and always try to get a quote in writing via email so that they will have a lot harder time changing the terms of the quote when you finally do get a deal that will get you to come into the dealership. You earned that money, make sure that you don't give it away any more than you have to!
I hope this helps you out and good luck with the purchase!
Makes a little more sense if that price doesn't include the moonroof/6-cd package or the cargo net and wheel locks, but still not a bad price if you're set on an 09. The 08's seem to be about 500-1k below the price of the 09's. Personally, I don't care what year the car is since there's little to no difference between the late 08's and the 09's as long as the car is new and doesn't have many miles (one that I looked at had 350+ miles on it already and it was "new"!!!). There do seem to be some 08's still available and they have a $2k incentive on them, but no 0% financing is available (I crunched the numbers and determined that the difference between the $500 with the promo 0% rate and the $2000 with the 4.9% interest rate I could get with BofA worked out such that the latter ($2k) scenario was about $750 cheaper over the life of the loan (36mo)).
Good luck on the deal, I know it gets confusing and hard to keep straight, but when I found the right car, it was pretty easy for me to pull the trigger even if there might have been a way for me to lower the price a little bit more, but I was ready to call it quits... If you don't mind, post what you get and the price so everyone else can see what's available.
2009 Mazda 3s Grand Touring Sedan
Stormy Blue Mica
Automatic
Bose/Sunroof Package
Sirius Satellite
MSRP: $24,200
She did some more negotiating on her own (I told her to push it just to see how much further they'd go) and this is what they agreed on-
Sale Price: $19800
Final OTD Price: $22,600
The car is not in stock and they are doing a dealer locate on it...but seems to be a great deal for a great car.
Thanks for all the help!
I haven't purchased a new car since 2001, so I'm a bit rusty.
We're looking at a 5 spd Galaxy Gray '09 Grand Touring w/ Bose/Moonroof.
With 6.75% in taxes, we're looking at $21,929 OTD w/ the 0% financing.
$21,429 for outside financing.
Sound reasonable?
Haven't bought a '09 5dr S sport Auto, though I've tried. I've gotten TERRIBLE results from using the internet/email approach to buying. It seems like the dealerships in central Illinois put the dumbest person in their company on email detail. I'd write to a dealer and request three or four pieces of info on a car and would receive a one-sentence reply that addressed none of my questions. I get the general gist that the dealers didn't even bother to read email inquiries and were only trying to fulfill the basest requirements so that they could remain a certified Mazda "Internet Dealer".
I suppose the breaking point was when I wrote back to the guy who had just made me an offer I was willing to accept with the message: "Sounds good, put me in touch with your finance guy so we can hash out the financing." and never got a response. All he had to do was give me his finance guy's phone number and he would have made the sale. After two days of waiting, I decided that I'd rather not hand over half a year's pay to someone this negligent. (This was from Sierra Mazda in Ottowa, Illinois.)
I may try to buy again in a month or two, but part of me wants to just screw the Mazda 3 altogether and buy a Nissan 370z when they come out.
-Ken
2010 model here we come.
I'm in LA.
Considering a 6.75% tax rate, we're out the door for $20,300 and the 0% financing.
Not an awesome deal, but good enough, I think. I thought I'd post my experience for the forum!
We were torn between this and a GT, but didn't want to spring for the extra $1700 or so.
In our hunting, we found the 2.3 manual hatchbacks to be a bit harder to find.
Is it a good deal?
2009 Mazda3 Hatchback S-Touring
Automatic, Wheel lock , All weather mats and bumper guard
9.03 % tax rate(WA), I got out the door for $19,038 and the 0% financing.
this is at Roger Beasley Mazda. I may be interested in the deal you are getting, what dealership are you at and does that model have power anything or is it one of the fairly basic ones?
- 17" Alloy wheels (as opposed to 15" steelies and hubcaps)
- Low profile performance all-season tires
- Power windows, locks and mirrors
- Power sunroof (optional)
- Fog lights
- 6-Speaker Audio System (as opposed to a 4-Speaker system)
- Cruise control with steering wheel mounted controls.
I hope this helps.
Best regards,
Shipo
I'm in the market for a crystal white pearl grand touring hatch in socal, LA area. Would love to know where you felt you had a good experience.
Regards
The price was offered by Mazda South. And I think you can get 100 or 200 bucks lower if you have enough time and patience. Since I got this offer without much effort. The only problem was that they couldn't get me 3.9 apr for 60 months.
That is fairly consistent the Mazda USA web site which says $2,405 between the two. From my perspective, the price bump is cheap given all the extra goodies the "i Touring" has over the "i Sport".
Best regards,
Shipo
The price was $18,848 OTD, which included 6.75% tax and $250 doc fee.
This was without Mazda financing.
Clearwater, FL
I am have been looking for either a 2008 or 2009 hatchback in Indiana.
The only other reason to trade it in is that, depending on the state, the price of the trade-in can drastically lower the sales tax on the new vehicle. You'll have to run the numbers yourself to see if it is worth your time selling it on your own.
Also, if you are taking their 0% financing, the car will cost more than if you pay for it through other means (cash, another loan, etc). There is at least another $500 off if you use other options.
When we considered the 0% financing, we did so by assuming 0% down. It's the only way to get the maximum benefit of the offer. The big question here is whether or not you can stomach the larger monthly payments.
I ran all the spreadsheets, comparing the choices, and, in the end, decided to pay for the car outright.
If you are comparing against any outside financing over 3-4% for 3 years, the additional original $500 or so savings on the car is quickly gone.
But, those seem like minor issues.. enough to turn off a potential buyer, but not that expensive to fix.. Get a new battery, reprogram the radio (lost power, that's why it says code), and fix the headlamp..
How old is your CR-V, and how many miles? It may be worth more than you think...
$5000 down on a new car and a loan for 36 months seems like a pretty good idea..
regards,
kyfdx
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If you have the serial # to stereo you can contact Honda through dealer and get
the "push button" code to reset stereo. Just going through same with my CRV
which just had new battery put in - wish Sears would have told me this before,
now I have to pull stereo out to see the serial#. Love my CRV and my
Mazdaspeed3 both!
1. Check glove compartment for a sticker, if there is one with 6 digits on it, that's it! Just enter that in.
2. Check your paperwork from when you got the car, it might be in there, look for a white sticker with numbers on it.
3. Call up the dealership you got the car from and provide them with the VIN to your car, although they might make you come down to verify that you're the owner.
4. Get the serial from behind the radio, this requires taking stuff apart.
Your headlight is an easy fix, should be able to just change the bulb, probably 8-12 bucks at walmart.
Get a new battery and sell the car on your own.
And like the person above said, if you're going for 0%, don't put any money down, stick the 5k into an interest yielding savings account and take money out of there each month to make up the difference.
Let's assume an OTD price of $19,500 and the 0% financing for 36 months:
0% down - $541.67/mo
5K down - $402.78/mo
A difference of approx $139/mo.
If you took that $5000 and put it in an account making 1.5% and withdrew the extra $139/mo for the higher payment, you would have roughly $120 left over at the end of the loan. Certainly not much over 3 years, but it shows that there really is no sense putting anything down if you can hold to a budget and NOT touch that account except for the car payment.
You'll have to pay taxes on the 1.5% you are earning... That will knock the return down to around 1%..
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Optional Equipment: Rear Bumper Guard, Wheel Locks and Carpet Floor Mats
MSRP: 19,095
Offer: 17.5k + TTL
This is in southern california, is this a fair price?
I was hoping for 18k OTD with 0 down 0% 36 months = 500 a month payment. Or is my demand unreasonable?
You don't give a tax rate, so I'll assume mine (6.75). I just bought a 5-spd Touring HB and, if we compare what we each "saved" off our respective MSRPs, I saved about $997 more than you - again, I had to estimate a few things (title work, etc), but it shouldn't be that far off. That's right in line with expected additional $1000 in rebates when you refuse their financing.
So, if I got a good deal ( I am pleased with it), then your sport at 18K OTD with Mazda financing is good deal and your demand is not out of line.
In order to really figure it out, you'd have to give your tax rate .. and the invoice wouldn't hurt.
This goes double if you have poor/mediocre credit and they are still offering 0%.
good luck
--jjf
Regarding putting 0% down. I am by no means a financial expert, but look at this:
Let's assume an OTD price of $19,500 and the 0% financing for 36 months:
0% down - $541.67/mo
5K down - $402.78/mo
A difference of approx $139/mo.
If you took that $5000 and put it in an account making 1.5% and withdrew the extra $139/mo for the higher payment, you would have roughly $120 left over at the end of the loan. Certainly not much over 3 years, but it shows that there really is no sense putting anything down if you can hold to a budget and NOT touch that account except for the car payment.