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Paid $14700.00 for the 2010 Mazda 3 I Touring - Auto Tran and the OTD price including TT&L was $16,311.00. Basically, paid $4400.00 under the MSRP.
Yes the MD state tax is 6% but you pay the tax rate of the state you reside in. I paid 3% since I live in VA.
The extras were the extended warranty program, maintenance stuff..I wasn't interested in this so didn't pay much attention to his sales pitch.
Did the $16,311 include the $3k for trade in? If it didn't I think it's an awesome deal for an i touring
Here's my deal. I actually have 2 questions.
1. I've been shopping for a 2010 Mazda 3 i Touring Auto, base trim, wheel locks and no other options. I've visited 4 showrooms and probably spent about 3-4 weeks. After all that research, today we put down $200 (advance) on the car at a showroom in MA. This is what I will be paying for it -
MSRP : $19,150
Invoice : $17,980
EdmundsTMV : $18,539
My Offer: $17,000 !! (about $1000 below invoice)
Acquisition $595.00 (sounds high?)
Registration $109.50
Dealer Fees $295.00 (lesser than some other dealers)
Tax $850.00
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OTD: $18,849!
I know the Dealer Fees sounds like a lot (and it probably has a lot of his profit built in) but he wouldn't budge on it. Since I had done some research on Edmunds, I knew this was a great price and showed interest. Infact, it was past dealer's close time and I went ahead and put $200 deposit on it since he was cribbing about not bieng able to give me this again. The deposit is refundable and quite honestly I was getting weary after 3 hours of negotiating. After I got back home, I spent another 3 hours on the net and quite honestly, I'm still not sure if this is a great deal. The apparent dishonesty of the dealers has left me constantly concerned about bieng duped.. Please Help if you've recently purchased, or are looking to purchase a similar vehicle.
2. i AM looking to lease this vehicle but for obvious reasons did not bring it up till late in my negotiations with the dealer. I'll be a first time leaser and since there's so much to know, even after lots of research hours, I'm still a little confused.
This is what the dealer had to offer on the lease:
15,000 Miles
36 Months
Money Factor: unfortunately, I don't remember
Residual Value: I think it was 55%
Trade-in: $1000
Down Payment: $1500
Monthly Payment : $179/mo . This includes Sales Tax, Plate and registration.
Does this sound reasonable? Is the Money Factor and Residual value consistent among dealers in a state for a particular vehicle or can they wary? I know that for the month of July 36 month / 15000 mi per year lease is .00185. The residual value is 53% of MSRP. Should I fight for this or does the low offer ($17,000) that I got seem like a good deal regardless?
I plan to go in again to sign the papers.. but you think I'm making abig mistake, pelase let me know asap!
THANKS MUCH!
As for the purchase price itself, you can do better. I helped my friend pick up a 2010 Mazda 3i Touring last weekend and she paid $1300 under invoice. MSRP was $20,975, she paid $18,227.
Good luck.
I'm practically in the same boat as you are. I've been in the market for a 2010 Mazda3i Touring with automatic transmission and no extras (no wheel locks either). The lowest price that I have been able to get is $18,600 OTD. This was after being initially offered $18,900 OTD, and then $18,600. The salesman said that they could wobble an extra $50 to $100 off the price if we were ready to deal, but I get the feeling that he was probably going to try to recoup it with some imaginary fee somewhere later in the paperwork. We gave a final offer of $17,600 OTD, and after they told us that we were "wasting their time," we ended up walking away.
My price point is actually the same as yours. We were aiming for $17,000 OTD, but we haven't had much luck. Honestly, I am skeptical of whether or not it's possible to hit the $17,000 OTD price point unless you're an astute negotiator (of which, I am not). On our side, I think we might be content with under $18,000 OTD, but even then, we might just decide to wait until the end of the year or another time to buy a Mazda3.
Concerning your case, I'm sure that the dealership would have given you the same price later on if you walked out. The whole "not sure if we can offer this price again" deal was probably just to get you to commit to a sale before the day ended. Of course, they might not offer you the price again just to spite you on walking out, but it sounds like a salesman acting like a salesman.
I've always felt that if you don't need the car, then try to get closer to your price point. In terms of the value of your deal, it sounds like an average to decent deal, but I would consider whether or not you're comfortable with moving this far away from your original budget.
--Garfield3d
Thanks for your input. Although I'd like to get close to the $17,000 OTD mark, I'm almost convinced it won't happen. Based on your input, I've sent a query to another dealer that I've worked with to see if he can beat my ~18,800 OTD. I think there's scope in the fees that they are charging; perhaps he can throw in something extra as an incentive. Either ways, I'm now more confident that I can push for a 18,500 or 18,600 OTD price. I'll update the group once I get the new quote.
Thanks again!!
I called Ohio's dealers and could not get any deal under $18,000. Checked on this board and saw someone purchase it at Fitzgerald Mall and hence I went to the website and saw my car. This dealership has many locations in MD but the that had my car was in Annapolis. Was skeptical at first because I had to drive to Annapolis, MD. A lot of what if's came up because it was a 7.5 hrs drive. For a price difference of $1,200, I thought it was worth the drive. So, my sister and I drove my clunker there. Waited a bit for the cash for clunkers paperwork but other than that, everything else was smooth. Salesperson's name is Joe. Email me if you have any questions.
-Sygg13
I told the dealer that i was looking for a 2010 i touring auto with wheel locks fogs and remote start... i told him that another dealer offered me 18,500 for the car and 20,000 OTD... based on edmunds i thought THAT would be a good price... it seems that you guys are going much lower than i... do you think i should say another dealer offered me a better price??
I live in NJ and am getting it from a NJ dealer
MSRP - $20,330.00
Invoice - $18,924.00
What others are paying - 19640.00
I think you can get a better deal. I recently purchased a 2010 Mazda3, 4 door "S" Sport automatic sedan with Moonroof, 6-CD & Bose Audio Package and all weather floormats for $500.00 below dealer invoice ( $19,855.00+Tax Title & Lic) in Washington State. I would try to get it at dealer invoice or closer to it. Make sure you get multiple quotes before making your purchase. Good luck and happy shopping.
My deal includes the $3K for the trade-in. I am in NJ, and I got it at Wayne Mazda. They were running an ad for $3K on a trade-in for anything under 100K miles. There was no way my 1998 Nissan was worth $3K, so it was basically a rebate they were giving me. Plus, I got a couple more thousand off the price in negotiations. Basically, I paid $4700.00 under MSRP and walked out the door after everything for $16,311.00. I have the basic I-Touring package including cruise control, alloy wheels, blue tooth connectivity, and remote lock access. It is an auto transmission.
I helped my friend purchase a 2010 Mazda 3i Touring Automatic last month. MSRP was $20,975-- the car had the Moonroof, Wheel Locks and Sirius. We pid $18,227 for the car, which is about $1300 under invoice.
We decided to bite the bullet on an automatic 2010 Mazda3i Touring (Extras: window tint and wheel locks) for $18,500 OTD. This amounts to a pre-TTL price of $17,206. During the negotiating process, the lowest price that we could get was an untinted 2010 Mazda3i Touring (Extras: wheel locks) for $18,400 OTD. These prices were without any trade-ins.
This all happened in the DFW area. Specifically, we ended up purchasing at Town North Mazda in Richardson, TX. Hopefully this information will be useful to others in their car buying process.
--Garfield3d
I also went to wayne mazda. I signed my purchase order the other day... tell me what you think of my deal... i touring automatic with fogs remote start and wheel locks for $19,819 OTD
what was your sales mans initials?? they wont let you say names on here
Truth be told, I had some trouble finding dealerships willing to actually deal due to the traffic from the cash for clunkers hysteria. I e-mailed 7 or 8 dealerships in Oregon, making sure to call the individual I was e-mailing first to find out if they were interested. I actually had a couple of dealerships drop off at the time of the call, one fairly local one saying that they didn't need to enter into a competitive bidding process because they have been able to sell the cars at sticker price.
In the end, only one of those e-mails produced an interested dealership, but the price, I think, was right. At least right for me.
msrp=$19,890.00 my offer of $17,000.00 was turned down and dealer came back with a final price of $17,800.00 and i said i would think about it..i feel as if i might be able to do better elsewhere.
Just curious...how did you like the Forte? It's a real looker and if it drives as nice as the current 3, we'll put that on the short list as well. Hopefully she won't want to downsize into a Versa but that might happen as she really likes my kids '09 Versa hatch. We'd get a sedan though but I think the size is a bit small. Nice car...a bit small. But she'll buy what she wants.
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I am looking for Mazda3 i Touring no options added, I have been offered $18600 OTD, on MSRP of 19100. Is that any good?
Walk away from what you're being offered and wait a month or two if you can. The blush will be off the clunker rose, and they'll be looking to make a deal again. If you can't wait, try getting more bids.
2 of them got back to me here is what they offered and are they good offers?
Mazda3 S sport auto
Moonroof/cd/bose package
OTD $20,319- They said this is their bottom line price.
Mazda3 S sport auto
Moonroof/cd/bose package, Velocity Red, automatic, with all-weather floor mats, Compass/Homelink, lip spoiler included.
MSRP - $22,040
Your Price - $21,000
2010 Mazda3 S sport, Copper Red, automatic, with floor mats, roof package, technology package, Compass/Homelink, lip spoiler.
MSRP - $23,235
Your Price - $22,200
None of these cars are the color I wanted (I will get my color, even if I have to wait). I want either White, Silver or black. The ones they offered me are the only cars they had on their lot.
I also have a non-clunker trade in I want to get $2,000 and I want to put down $5,000 and will finance the rest.
Should I wait for clunkers to end?
What do you think I should do?
Thanks.
Personally, I would wait, especially if color is a priority for you. It might be better to wait until the end of the month or keep tabs with them. When you're ready to buy, I would also tell the other two dealers of the lowest number that you got from the other dealer, and see if they can outdo the best offer so far. Usually you can at least get them to match the lowest offer, and hopefully they will undercut the other person a little bit.
--Garfield3d
But really, most of you should wait until this C4C (cash for saps) deal runs out. (Suffering over july 30, Happily prolonged by congress by another 2 billion.) Many vehicles sell for $3000-$8000 off msrp all the time this year , and many c4c folks are paying about as much for their cars as they could have bought them for in early July. Some exceptions but many dealers are sold out of hi mpg car stock, and will hold on to as much metal as they can until the last 270000 or so vouchers are gone.
Considering most of the $4000 voucher goes into the dealers pocket, and the average "clunker" could have been sold or traded in for about $1500 or more, for many consumers its a wash.
The 90% of non c4c buyers may have to pay higher prices until this artificial price support goes. (costing them well over 3 billion) Even then, most of the traditional end of year values on the leftovers (and this year overproduced) 09's came and went for most by early July.
Good luck
--jjf
I just paid 18500 out the door for the 2010 mazda 3 i touring. Hopefully that is an ok price.
Your price sounds high, even with sales tax.
I gotta say we are pretty darn happy with the purchase so far. Our first 3 gas tanks have been 26mpg and 27mpg in mostly city driving, and 31 mpg mostly highway. I was a bit worried the 2.3L engine would not be so efficient, but I am way happy with those numbers. Our former 2000 Nissan Altima with a similar size and powered 4-cyl only got around 21mpg overall (granted with a 4-sp OD auto tranny) We have already been to the dealer once to get a broken rear suspension coil replaced under warranty, but I will keep y'all posted as we get some more miles on the car and tackle a Boston winter with it.
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I was looking for a 2010 Mazda 3i Touring (base w/ no options, manual) and they let me test drive it. During the test drive the sales guy tries to pin down the price, and I said well I only have 18-19K to spend OTD and that is it! I also said that I am in a no bs kinda mood, and was looking to buy a car (hopefully) that day. So, we get back to the dealership and he comes back with a number after consulting his manager $17,950 + ttl. OTD ($19,500) this was at least 500 more than I wanted to pay, plus I knew the TMV was less than that anyway. So, the salesperson goes back after I denied the 17,9 offer and consults with the manager. After that, the manager comes over and says to me," I am in a no bs kinda mood, goodbye!". I left immediately...and also noticed NO other customers there at all. I will never go back there ever again! Fortunately for them, they convinced me to goto my local Honda dealership and buy a car from them....where they had a no haggle, straightforward kind of approach giving me TMV on my Honda. Did I get the best deal on my Honda? I think I did considering the kind of treatment and service that I got at the Honda dealership. Price isn't everything.
The Mazda 3i touring I can say is a great car, with great potential. In fact, I think I liked it better than the civic! But for the attitude, and the price I was getting I couldn't see my self in this car. No other Mazda dealership had the car that I wanted and one Mazda dealership told me I'd have to wait until January to get the car! LOL
this is not uncommon in NJ, the dealers don't like to 'deal' (almost like everything has been price fixed). I would try putting some low offers infront of some NY, PA dealers and see how you get on. Herb Chambers in Boston is also pretty good on deals albeit, it will be a drive. I got a price from them last Dec on an Odyssey EXL-RES last Dec, $7000 under MSRP. Noted it was a 2008 which Honda were giving dealers a $3,500 year end discount on but this was still well under invoice. I ended up getting the same price from a NYC dealer which saved me about a 7hrs round trip to get the car.
I am currently negotiating with them on another vehicle currently and looking as though I'll be approx $2000 below invoice OTD.
Hope this was of help.
Rgds