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I for one never claimed to be an expert on trucks, and stated that in my previous post. I am also not an "import" lover. I have owned 7 trucks to date, all Chevy's and GMC's. This is my first Toyota, and I wouldn't call it an import. Chevy lost me, Toyota won me when I bought my wife an 05 Camry. Pure and simple.
Like the prior poster the 'import lovers' have been driving Big 3 trucks forever... just waiting for a competitive Toyota to arrive.
What if...
After years and years of dissatisfaction these former detroiter-makde truck owners know far too much about trucks and recognize something special in this Tundra.
Do you think that these are Corolla buyers suddenly jumping into the Tundras. It's former GM/F/D owners that know what Toyota has done.
This Tundra is one special truck, period.
And, guys that like trucks know that.
Hey, I'm 6' 1" and when I stand next to this Tundra, it is HUGE! I can barely reach over the side and get something small out of the bed!
I like that though, suits me just fine. Little guys will have a difficult time stealing something out of the bed of my truck, lol.
And, HOW ABOUT THAT TAILGATE, WOW!
When homers start calling out Toyota trucks on quality! How will a Toyota hold up? I wish there was some hereditary pattern that could shed some light on this freightening proposition?
Toyota trucks are never used for work. Never heard of such a thing!
DrFill
I guess all those guys complaining about their camry 6 speed transmission problems are homers? Its really not hard to find that toyota has more than their share of quality problems lately it just involves taking ones head out the sand and looking around.
Toyota trucks are never used for work. Never heard of such a thing!
Im sorry I wasnt aware that there were previous generations of tundras haulin around 10000# how foolish of me
It is not like Toyota woke up Monday morning and decided to build this truck and then put it together on Tuesday morning. They have been working on this truck for a very long time, and now it is ready.
will it have any problems? sure it will, all do. But some are acting like the motor and tranny will fall apart. You don't really think a company like Toyota put together a 5.7 motor and a 6 speed tranny haphazardly, do you?
well do you really think a company like toyota would put together a v6 and a 6 speed tranny haphazardly? and for the record there is still no fix for these problems. And to be clear im not bashing the tundra it just dosent deserve to be placed on a pedestal, remember all the hoopla when the titan came out from all the import fans, where are they now?
Even Toyota will have teething problems with new product.
But they'd have to have vehicles explode on ignition before they'd compare to Gm's shoddy record. :surprise:
Those who throw stones....
Gee, I thought pedestals were for the best in class?
DrFill
oh really? do we need to go over the list of recalls lately? not including toyotas hidden ones obviously, cause, well nobody knows how many of them there are since toyotas so sneaky about it. But they werent sneaky enough to fool them nascar offials now where they hahaha caught cheatin on their very first race that speaks volumes alone on the "toyota way"
Using this design increases torgue and side loading capacity. The bolts are larger and the spacing farther apart to cary the load better, has nothing to do with penny pinching.
And wildbill, take off the caps lock off, when you type in caps it means you are shouting and just makes youre posts more ridiculus
that means it can't be all that good, right??
you are here on the "new tundra owners" thread chating back and forth. you are at heart very impressed with the new tundra (or you wouldn't be here), but you can't afford to get one so your only recourse is to start bashing the vehicle.
now you are actually hoping that something real bad goes wrong with the trucks so that you can say, "whew, glad I didn't get one".
your too easy to figure, and all the rest of you bashing the new tundra. you cant get one, so bash it. those of us that can get one have studied them and looked em over, test drove them, and determined they are what they are, great trucks.
There was no cutting corners here..
.. the engine
.. the tranny
.. the rearend
.. the safety features
.. the braking system
.. the towing capacity
.. the carrying capacity
All are either segment-leading, segment-only or right at the head of the class.
But you are right the market will speak its mind and the Tundra will find it's place.
For those feeling threatened somehow by the Tundra, by all means complain away (as is your natural right), but don't do it here, there are other forum boards to do it on. This area is for owners reporting on how their vehicle is doing, not for desparate, pathetic attempts to convince people to not get this truck. These people already have, so your voice adds nothing to the purchase result.
And for the record, most of the people I know that are looking at this truck are current truck owners from Ford, Dodge, and GM. Like it was mentioned before, its not like people are moving from Corollas to Tundras. Truck buyers rarely change to something else, so if they do make a different move, it is usually laterally to another brand or to a newer version of whatever they currently have (assuming they're happy with their purchase).
I am here at this "2007 Toyota Tundra New Owner Reports" because I just purchased a new Tundra and want to offer my report on this vehicle.
WHY ARE YOU HERE?
good luck,
x chevy man
My problem is that the price of these trucks are equivalent to the average yearly salary of most working Americans. For instance my father was making 16K in 1979 and paid 4K (25% of his salary) for his f-150, now he would be making 35K for the same job and his truck would easily cost 25K (71% of his salary). Coming from a fairly frugal family who can get 250K+ from an F-150 (x 4), this hugh increase in price is ridiculous. I paid 16K for my 99 accord and have 140K, this thing would cost 20K now and my salary has not gone up 25% in the past 7 yrs.
Now coming off my soapbox and more relevant to this discussion, I've recently driven the T-150 5.7 L and was impressed with the drive and stopping capabilities of this vehicle. I think the new ford drives too much like a car (not the toyota though). I want to know from ya'll if I'm just being cheap or do you think the price of these pickup trucks are just too much for the average american.
BTW, I've waited 4 yrs for a pickup and am thinking of waiting another 6 mths to a year to get either the f-150 or toyota. I'm still now convinced which will last longer just because I've owned many fords that have stood the test of time.
even F's 5.4.
I'm wondering why the Tundra CrewMax is only available with a shortbed on the 145.7" wheelbase chassis (shared with the DC/std.bed) rather than also with a regular bed on the 164.6" wheelbase chassis (shared with the DC/longbed).
Instead of buying a Tundra that gets 15 mpg at $35K, you have decided to wait till 08 and spend $45K on the diesel Tundra that will get 17 mpg, even though the cost per gallon of diesel is .50cent more than gas. Not to mention 12 quarts of oil at oil changes and 50-dollar filters (oil change difference of about $40 a pop), or the heavy increase of maintenance on diesel vs. gas trucks.
YOU'RE BRILLIANT!
http://autos.yahoo.com/toyota_truck_tundra_4x4-reviews_user/;_ylt=Ahm7aeHAwuYhVr- TBK1bsMKtqoYV4
Looks to me like not only does wildbill not know what he is talking about, he also doesn't know how to post an acurate web address.
Anyway, MOST think their new Tundra is awesome, some aren't impressed with the fuel economy (not a suprise), and one dude is upset because he has a hard time "getting in the truck" (must be a small fellow).
7 out of 10 owners think the new tundra is the sweetest, most fantastic, awesome, bad boy, 3/4 ton in a 1/2 body, truck of the decade that they would suggest to anyone.
If you want great gas mileage your looking in the wrong place. :mad:
exactly!
So, with that in mind, i expect to get 16 mpg in my tundra on the highway driving that way. i imagine if i slow it down a bit and dont get on it, i'll get better, say 17 or 18.
for me, that is fine. One can change out the air system to get another mile or two per gallon also. But, I knew going into this that i could expect about 16 mpg overall with this truck. It is what i expect.
If you can't handle that, look at other trucks; unfortunately, they won't get much better mileage either.
my Z-71 4x4 got 15 on the highway. my 4x2 colorado I5 got 18 on the highway, but could only pull 4,000 pounds and was like getting in and out of a maytag washing machine (pretty cramped for a big boy).
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kcram - Pickups Host
I am wondering about the size of the thing. Just for a couple of tools, or is the capacity enough to store jumper cables, first aid kit, tow strap, and 50-yards of rope?
Would it be any longer than a DoubleCab with the 8' bed?
Would it be any longer than a DoubleCab with the 8' bed?
The DC standard (short) bed is the same length as the CrewMax 228.7" or 19' 1/4".
The DC long bed is 247.6" or 20' 7.5".
Shouldn't have any problems getting the CrewMax or DC standard bed in the standard modern American garage.
have fun.