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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 8,863
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,639
    just posting a fact. it is easy to check. it did surprise me, which is why i posted it. just another case of things are always not what you assume them to be.
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • All of this BS and crap about the struts...I bet you those magazine people that initiated this issue started taking air, jumping logs and rocks at high speeds just to see what could happen. All terrain driving is not about speed, that is left to million dollar Baja type trucks that are built nothing like stock trucks. These people just wish they could own a Ridgeline! This is a great truck that many people have been waiting for years and you know what? It's a Honda! Reliable, innovative, with a powerful engine that can give you close to 20 mpg overall and with a "real car ride", not a jumpy teeth-breaking ride like many others. I know that other brands will follow their steps; Toyota, Nissan, Ford, Chevy, Dodge, etc. I see bed trunks, maybe independent rear suspension and other things that this SUT brought new to the world on these brands very soon! To all of those coming here to instigate issues...just grow up! Maybe, one day you will be able to own a Honda Ridgeline too. Keep your BIG TRUCKS, that is not what we want. ;)
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    No, it appears that the strut complaint is a real one. Just like the leaking roof from the first few production runs. Honda is not immune to having problems.

    Even a busted clock can be right twice a day.
  • But I won't buy one until I see some indication that this strut problem is at least investigated by Honda. There have been a lot of reports of failures, with more reported almost every day. Some people report never even having taken their vehicle down a dirt road when they started hearing the bad noises indicating failure. I need a vehicle that can in fact handle a washboard road 4 or 5 times a year. I hope Honda steps up to the plate and deals with this. I'd love a truck that is built as good as my old accord was.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    I'd be curious as to what the build dates were on these trucks with strut failures. Were they among the first batch of vehicles built? Are they from recent build dates? Or a combination? Also what was the approximate mileage on the vehicles when these failures occurred?

    If they were from early build dates (and not recent build dates) that could mean Honda has caught and fixed the problem. Or it could mean that not enough miles have yet been put on the trucks. Either way, that kind of info would be helpful in trying to troubleshoot this issue.

    Bob
  • There have been a lot of reports of failures, with more reported almost every day.

    what are you talking about? Where are these reports almost everyday? I've only seen a couple of comments on ROC and they have well over a thousand memebers. My vin is around #5000 and I have over 8,000 miles with no problem.
  • A "couple" of reported failures? Heck, Edmunds had more than a "couple" on one vehicle. I hope Honda doesn't suffer from the Ford ostrich syndrome.
  • gd113gd113 Posts: 114
    Gearhead,

    I read all the forums and I am seeing the same things you are. Besides Edmunds there have maybe been a couple reported at the ROC. You have to admit 4 struts on one vehicle is very odd and unlikely. So lets round it to 5 vehicles with strut problems out of 30k sold so far this year. Doesn't sound like a huge problem does it? Now Ford recalling all its new Four Hundreds and Freestyles because the strap that holds the gas tank in may fail and cause a fire, thats a problem.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    I love Hondas. I have a family with one kid here and one on the way for fall 2006. I hope to buy before then.

    My heart says get a Ridgeline. My head says get an Odyssey. Pilot seems like a luke warm compromise. I don't need to haul 8 people but I really do not need a truck bed either.

    For my situation, a Ridgeline would be a life style choice. I am a typical Harry Homeonwer who would use a truck bed but do not really need it.

    Odyssey is a very flexible choice but seems to be all "head" and no heart.

    Spouse is ambivalent / hostile to truck depending on the day.

    Any thoughts for those in similar situation.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Do what I did... get an MDX. It offers similar utility to the Pilot, but has more personality.
  • You can do what I did, I bought both.
  • bobwhobobwho Posts: 24
    I know how you feel since I started looking around to replace my 16 yr old Toy truck. When I found the Ridgeline, I realized it had everything I needed in a truck and car. My spouse was ambivalent to, but said go get what you want. She really wanted me to get a Pilot or another Toy Truck. But after riding in the Ridgeline and even driving it around, she now loves all the room and storage. She has an 04 Accord, so she knew about the Honda reliablity. So sit on down and write down the pros's and con's for each vehicle and than decide, which is better, based on it's use, safety, seating, storage,etc.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,992
    FYI...the recall on the gas tank straps was caused by a Ford sub-vendor not meeting Ford's specs on the size of the strap. It was determined that it could weaken beyond 100,000 miles. So it wasn't that Ford's spec was incorrect, but that a vendor didn't meet it. Good on Ford for catching it probably before any Freestyle/500 exceeded 100,000 miles. Bad on Ford for using this sub, but it would have been a little different if the Ford engineering specs were found to have been the fault.
  • tcasboytcasboy Posts: 214
    If I were you, soon to have 2 young children, I would definitely buy the Ody. You are going to want to have all the stuff you carry around with the kids with you in the vehicle where you can get to them during a trip. You will also have a lot more room, a less expensive vehicle, and get better gas mileage. I am on my second Ody (2000 LX and 04 EX-L) and they are great vehicles. Our kids are getting older (9 and 11) but it has been very nice to have the van around to take on trips and drive around to activities. Driving a minivan has never bothered me in the least.

    I would wait a year or two and then buy the Ridgeline for the second vehicle. Hoisting those kid's seats up and into the RL will get old also. Not that it can't be done, but the Ody will be much more practical and convenient for you and your family (IMHO).

    I like the buy both advice too, if you can swing the cash!

    I'm looking at the RL to replace my small sedan so the kids can have some more room in the back when we take the second vehicle somewhere, to try to save some miles on the Ody.

    Good luck.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    Thanks.

    The current fleet is Accord Hybrid sedan and Outback LL Bean wagon. The LL Bean wagon is the one that will be sold for the hauler vehicle. It is great but smaller inside than Accord.

    I do like the Ody. But the last car I felt passionate about was a 1992 Prelude. To me some level of impracticality is required for passion. I do not drive fast except through corners.

    The Hybrid is a dream but could use a little better handling.

    Sometimes I think - forgo the hauling for handling in an Acura TSX. Then I come back to my senses.

    I know the RL is no handler but I never had a truck and that might be novel enough to grab me.

    I hear the MDX is a handler but pushing $40k that seems too much to spend on a car.

    I am looking for that magic combo of room, utility, handling, fun and affordability -- and a Honda. And I keep re-thinking my choices.

    It's easy to get hung up on "vaporware" cars like 2007 Acura RDX or Honda CR-V. Since they are not out yet you can imagine them fitting every need. . . . until they hit the real world.
  • I know the RL is no handler but I never had a truck and that might be novel enough to grab me.

    The RL is precisely known for its excellent handling. The guys at TOV put it through its paces on the auto cross course and were very impressed by its handling through the slalom.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    I did see and enjoy that RL autocross video.
  • geo9geo9 Posts: 739
    I wonder if they blew out the struts after that test?
  • littlezlittlez Posts: 167
    If you're going to spout off facts, get them straight. The Explorer actually had less rollover frequency than all other SUVs. And the tires were Firestones, not Fords. The F150 cruise control switch was made by a supplier who provided bad parts to Ford. It was not made by Ford. So, quit your Ford bashing, dork. By the way, Honda has already recalled the new Civic. There have been several recalls on the Odyssey and Pilot to the tune of over a million vehicles. Go ahead and blame Edmunds for breaking your rice-burning seudo-truck. The Ridgeline will never sell as many units as an F-Series, the King of trucks. I know the topic of conversation is the Ridgeline, so don't throw bad information into the discussion.
  • littlezlittlez Posts: 167
    First of all, it's a Five Hundred, not a Four Hundred and secondly, the strap is from a supplier that failed to provide a quality part. Ford did not make the strap. By the way, there have been no fires and no injuries. The Ridgeline struts are failing. Bad thing to happen on a truck. It is a huge problem.
  • littlezlittlez Posts: 167
    Wow! You [non-permissible content removed] lovers are all alike, if something goes wrong with your [non-permissible content removed] vehicle, blame it on someone other than the [non-permissible content removed] manufacturer. So, it was the magazine people who broke your truck, BS! These people don't wish they could own a Ridgeline, they don't want one because it will never be a real truck, just a truck wanna-be. For your information, an F-150 with a V8 engine, that blows the doors off of a Ridgeline gets 19 mpg overall. That's only 1 mpg below a Ridgeline. I'd rather have a real truck. Also, other brands will not follow in Honda's steps because this is not a great truck. It is a way for Honda to keep their own customers from jumping ship. Oh, one more thing, it's sounds like you are the one instigating issues. The rest of us are just sharing our opinions.
  • littlezlittlez Posts: 167
    Proud to be an American, baby!!!!
  • littlez,

    Your comments aren't encouraging respectful dialogue. Please, for the forum's sake, help keep things friendly and objective.

    John
  • gd113gd113 Posts: 114
    He just became a member today, shoots off 4 posts on a vehicle he doesn't own and hates the "[non-permissible content removed]". Be a good American and have a fit somewhere else.
  • I have owned a Chevy 4x4 pickup in the past (it was OK), a '95 explorer (also OK, but the tranny went bad at only 80k miles, and the trade-in value was a JOKE), and an accord (very good car, lasted well and great trade in value, boring design though). So I guess I've seen all sides. That said, I like the Ridgline and it would be great for my family. BUT, I would probably take it down to Baja about 4-5 times a year with an atv in the back. During my trips I typically go down a washbord dirt road for about 25 miles each way to get where I go. Until Honda has something official to say about the strut issue, there is no way I'd buy a Ridgeline. Edmunds experience and the identical reports on other sights are enough for me not to want to sign up for a problem after spending $25-30k on a vehicle. Its a shame, the trunk is fantastic, the interior size is much better than a Tacoma/Frontier, and its engine power and tow capacity are enough for me. Again, though, I think this suspension problem should be looked at and at least commented on by Honda.
  • not defending Honda, but you are going to see these kinds of "discoveries" in first generation vehicles. Like our new poster indicates, suppliers that mess up, or change their manufacturing process midstream, can not totally be blamed on the manufacturer. Yes, utimately, but...

    Answer this, are parents totally responsible for how their kids turn out? Do parents take the blame for issues with their kids? No point in really debating these things unless you like life as a professional debater.

    Bottom line is mistakes cost manufacturers money and I am sure all of them want to avoid them up front. But they did happen and will happen. As a buyer it is best to avoid generation 1 such as the Ridgeline, even with stellar reputation all around.

    John
  • Edmunds experience and the identical reports on other sights are enough for me not to want to sign up

    Really, Where are these other identical reports of all 4 struts failing. I'm pretty familiar with what's out there, and I'm not aware of any such reports.
  • Let me get this straight, if a supplier supplies a bad part for an american car it's the supplier's fault but if a supplier supplies bad part for an import it is the car company's fault?

    The real issue would be if the problem is due to a supplier design/manufacturing problem or a car company's bad design/specs. Therefore who to blame would depend on the particular part regardless of the location of the company's headquarters.

    As for the strut issue, I can't comment since the struts are fine on my Ridgeline and anyways if there is a problem in the struts it's not a big deal - they can be easily replaced- not like the randomly stalling on the new Land Rovers that no one can figure out (as one example).
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