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Toyota Camry 2005 Facelift
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Side airbags and curtains have been offered since 2002, with or without moonroof, so thats not really a change. I have a friend whose parents purchased a 2003 XLE off the lot w/ curtains but no moonroof, for example.
Did you purchase?
~alpha
Didn't the 1993-94 LS400 also have the "floating" gauges like the 1990-92? My grandfather had both a 1990 and a 1993 and I could swear they had the same gauges (but I may be wrong).
Impressions:
-The new instrumentation is very impressive and much better looking than the outgoing presentation.
-The 5A is very responsive and the car felt fairly strong. But, in the ranges in which I tested it (nailed the go pedal from a start, from 30 to 50, and from 45 to 65), it felt about the same as the 2004. I was hoping it would feel a bit stronger. However, it should be noted that the version I drove was very green, with but 11 miles on the odometer, and was also PZEV, while our 2002 is ULEV.
-The black trim that surrounds the center stack is unfortunate and cheap looking, and offsets the upscale and pleasant change to chrome-looking door handles.
~alpha
One thing I forgot: I like the new grille of the 2005 Camrys, but the the taillights have yet to grow on me. I still the Lunar Mist Metallic is a terrible color on this car. The new wheel covers are more attractive than the old Standard/LE ones, as well.
~alpha
I don't know. I checked out www.iihs.org's site and both cars are best picks.
Both the Accord and Camry have poor side ratings without side and side curtain airbags but both have good (highest rating) with the side and side curtain airbags.
Because of the incentives we were getting a 2004 SE at invoice (minus the $1250) but backed out after reading the side crash ratings. The dealer only had XLE's with the side and side curtain bags.
We ended up ordering a 2005 SE with the GY package at Invoice.
The dealer is Autofair in Manchester NH.
They had the best deals when I was getting a 2002 Highlander.
~alpha
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I was not sure about the 4 vs 6 since the car I rented did not have the 5 speed auto in it...
~alpha
XLEs and SEs are hardly "rare," but at least you won't see a dozen exactly the same in the same row of the parking lot.
~alpha
I don't understand why Toyota continues to build the old 3.0L when they put the newer and much torquier 3.3 in so many other vehicles: Sienna, Highlander, Camry SE, ES330, RX330. Wouldn't it be more cost effective to kill the 3.0, especially if it's built on a different assembly line?
Not sure that I like the new gauges, too generic.
The old design was quite different from anyone else: temperature gauge inside tach, gas gauge inside speedometer.
There is an A+ for new grill, it removes round feeling of the hood
As Alpha stated above, I don't believe climate control is a deal-breaker, but its nice to have if you can get it.
~alpha
IMO, the Camry SE 4 and V6 (equipped with a few options) compare favorably to the Accord EXs.
~alpha
- ABS standard, about time
- 5 speed auto trans.,thank you Accord
- 1 mpg better
The misses are:
- Side curtains still an option, not good, always seem to be one year behind Accord.
- think they could have increased the mileage a bit more with a little extra tuning,and gone one up on the Accord.
The unknowns:
- will SE models be more available
- will side curtains be more available
- will incentives be needed
Otherwise, nice assessment. There are a few other detail pluses that Im a big fan of, such as the center rear head restraint, the power lumbar support on LE grades (and up), and the new instrumentation and covered bin in center stack.
~alpha
I think the availability of VSC and TRAC on the 4-cyl. is a good change also.
That and the new tailights are the only big complaints I have about the 05. Nice-looking car overall and much improved interior with the covered console. I agree that the side curtain airbags should be standard, but standard ABS is a nice step forward along with the 5spd auto transmission on the 4s.
I've noticed that all of the salsa red Camrys in my region (Southeast) come with a fawn interior for 05, so I guess they dropped the charcoal interior option for that color.
~alpha
Those rims are HOT...
In the Southeast Region, 16" wheels are options but they are an additional $600 to $900 depending upon the wheel you select. The website shows stone cloth as an interior option, but every 05 Camry in Salsa Red I've seen either in Central Florida or on the way has a fawn interior. Perhaps the stone interiors will come later...It may be different in your region.
rebate. The dealership only had 3 04's left, 2 silver, one white. They didn't seem to push the 04's. When I saw the new Ice Blue color, I knew that was the one for me. The salesperson and sales manager said they had just got it in that afternoon and several people had already looked at it but not driven it. I told them that I didn't need to drive it, I needed to purchase it! We negotiated a great deal. Now for a little while, I'll be the only one in town with an 05 ice blue LE. The interior is stone, a shade darker than my previous 03 lt. gray, a welcome change because it won't show dirt as bad, nor will it show lint as bad as the charcoal. So far no problems and the gas mileage is more than expected and I love those steering wheel audio controls. When my co-workers left from work the other day and saw the new Camry from afar, they thought I had purchased a Lexus ES 330.
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