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Shootout! Tundra vs Silverado
quadrunner500
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Will keep my day job, just in case.
By the way Tp, speaking of BRP, Ichabods in Blowing Rock has the World's Greatest Hamburger east of the Mississippi. Just ask Cindy, my sister in law to set you up!
Are you gonna respond to my race challenge posted on Tundra vs. Big 3? My Honda 50 kicks [non-permissible content removed]!
Sorry for the confusion. Was not saying you were Rube, just addressing you both separately in same post. Honda 50? Now there's something that finally can fit in Tindra back seat!
Mviglianco1,
From Texas originally, but Colorado since '82. Cindy and Joe own IckyBobs. They had a fire there recently, in back where the pool tables were. Now they tell me, it's going to be a patio. NC is nice. Tweetsie, Ashville. Joe took us boating. I drove my street bike from Blowing Rock, up to Ashville on BRP couple summers ago. Pretty up there. My wifes mother lives in BR in the summer.
Arkie6,
I have the 4.10 gear with Eaton locker.
National Geographic hasn't called yet, so I'm off to work!
Love Flagstaff though......
The Dodge has that 18 wheeler look, I liked the look when it first came out, but that look know is rather tiresome. The Ford has the space look (I call it the bubble boy truck), it just looks too round for me! The Tundra just looks like a Ford ripoff!!!, but then what do you expect from Toyota! Just my two cents worth!
rcoos
Tundra does not look that bad, unless it has the wheel flares or a topper. IMO this makes the truck look funny.
The Tundra I drove was about perfect, if you don't count the soft rear end when loaded.
Still love my Silverado.
I would be wary of putting that much in my Super Duty F-250.
Rich
In this April 2000 edition of Truck Trend, they state that as little as 1 thousand pounds in the bed of a 3/4 ton Ford Super Duty or 2500 Silverado will be enough to cause the headlamps to shine above the curb, enough to occasionally irritate oncoming traffic. High beams are useless. That's how much we take for granted.
Rich
If facts mean anything to you (they obviously do not) here they are:
The full-size facts tell the story.
Earlier this year, AMCI, an internationally recognized automotive testing and evaluation firm, conducted a series of independent performance evaluations on all the top full-size pickups, including the new Toyota Tundra. And while some full-size truck fans might do a double take, we weren't surprised by the findings at all. In many of the most significant categories, Tundra models handily outperformed the competition. Click on each of the categories above and judge for yourself.
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 8.3 sec.
Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 137 ft. (I can pretty much stop on a dime)
Roadholding Index: 0.72
Base Number of Cylinders: 8
Base Engine Size: 5.3 liters
Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 285 hp @ 5200 rpm
Torque: 325 ft-lbs. @ 4000 rpm
Maximum Cargo Capacity: 57 cu.ft.
Maximum Payload: 1965 lbs.
Maximum Towing Capacity: 8700 lbs.
These and other stats can be found at
http://www.edmunds.com/newtrucks/2000/chevrolet/silverado1500/ls2wdextendedcabsb.html
Tundra
Acceleration (0-60 mph): NA
Braking Distance (60-0 mph): NA
Roadholding Index: NA
Base Number of Cylinders: 8
Base Engine Size: 4.7 liters
Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 245 hp @ 4800 rpm
Torque: 315 ft-lbs. @ 3400 rpm
Maximum Cargo Capacity: NA
Maximum Payload: 1924 lbs.
Maximum Towing Capacity: 7200 lbs.
These and other stats can be found at
http://www.edmunds.com/newtrucks/2000/toyota/tundra/sr5v82wdaccesscab.html
I think the stats alone speak for themselves.
I love my 2000 Silverado. Comparing these two trucks is like comparing apples and oranges, although the cost for these two is virtually the same.
That's my 2 cents.
Here's where I got the numbers from.
http://www.edmunds.com/newtrucks/2000/chevrolet/silverado1500/lt2wdextendedcabsb.html
Ive got some good pics that Ill get a link to soon.
606
BTW - there is no charge for ordering the lower rear differential - it is a no cost option. Is the tow package (SR5 not limited) and heavy duty shocks a free option on the Tundra or do you have to pay extra for them? Your post makes it sound like you pay for these on the Silverado but they are free on the Tundra. The Silverado is rated higher in MPG than the Tundra (Even with the larger V8). I think both are good trucks, the Tundra was just too small, I need a back seat that can be used for people.
your Toyota, to save a Chevy. The Z71 driver owes
you big!
What helped me most was airing down the tires. I tried pulling him out at first but got all my tires spinning with no motion. (then he took his foot off the brake....just kidding). I stopped this early and aired down. With a little brake modulation and easy throttle I got him out. Pulling out the stuck car wasnt a big challenge with right technique.
I agree...good tires and a locking rear and the chevy probably wouldnt have had a problem.
606
Comparing road test performance of the Tundra to the domestic full-size trucks says a lot about how successful Toyota was in its mission. In certified testing done by an independent testing agency for Toyota, with similarly equipped trucks, the Tundra went 0-60 mph in 7.87 seconds, which, compared to the bigger domestics, put the Tundra quicker than the 5.9L Dodge Ram, tied the 5.3L Chevy, and behind the 5.4 L Ford by only 0.300 second."
It seems the Tundra does compete well with the largest 1/2 ton V8s available.
"Comparing road test performance of the Tundra to the domestic full-size trucks says a lot about how successful Toyota was in its mission. In certified testing done by an independent testing agency for Toyota, with similarly equipped trucks, the Tundra went 0-60 mph in 7.87 seconds, which, compared to the bigger domestics, put the Tundra quicker than the 5.9L Dodge Ram, tied the 5.3L Chevy, and behind the 5.4 L Ford by only 0.300 second."
1. You will need a Receiver hitch - or is your bumper rated at 7,000 pounds?
2. You will need the wiring harness to plug your trailer lights in.
The Tundra does come with an oil & transmission cooler standard (I assume the weak T-100 tranny in the Tundra needs the cooler even when it is not loaded). The tranny cooler is part of the tow package on the Chevy.
I still think your analysis is flawed- but you do the math.
Tundra wire harness Code 9Z $159, Tow receiver hitch code DH $379 = total cost of $538
Silverado "tow package" includes Hitch platform, trailer wire harness and tranny cooler code Z85 total cost of $285.
The chevy also includes the wire harness needed to hook up an electric brake controller at no charge.
Based on your understanding of what it takes to tow I hope I never meet you on the hiway at night when you are towing 7,000 pounds on your bumper and have no trailer lights.
tundra=less truck, more bucks
Good luck on this one now!
The Chevy may have ABS, but the Tundra still outbrakes it.
With the Chevy, you will need the 24hour roadside assistance. Better keep their number handy.
The Tundra comes with a 60 month, 60,000 mile powertrain warranty. The Chevy is only 36 month, 36000 miles.
The Tundra is ranked number one by J.D. Power and Associates for initial quality for 2000 full size pickups.
The Chevy is so unreliable that it is off the chart for consumer reports predicted reliability. ( -90%)
To top it all off - a comparably equipped Chevy costs $2000 more. I posted the source of the pricing and the configuration of both trucks. If you have any questions you can go to www.priceline.com and check for yourself. I checked these same two trucks on www.carpoint.com and got the same results. Face facts - the chevy costs a lot more.
You can call a Tundra micro-size. It doesn't really matter - it still out tows, outbrakes, and out accelerates Chevy's so-called full size pickup.
The Chevy may have ABS, but the Tundra still outbrakes it.
With the Chevy, you will need the 24hour roadside assistance. Better keep their number handy.
The Tundra comes with a 60 month, 60,000 mile powertrain warranty. The Chevy is only 36 month, 36000 miles.
The Tundra is ranked number one by J.D. Power and Associates for initial quality for 2000 full size pickups.
The Chevy is so unreliable that it is off the chart for consumer reports predicted reliability. ( -90%)
To top it all off - a comparably equipped Chevy costs $2000 more. I posted the source of the pricing and the configuration of both trucks. If you have any questions you can go to www.priceline.com and check for yourself. I checked these same two trucks on www.carpoint.com and got the same results. Face facts - the chevy costs a lot more.
You can call a Tundra micro-size. It doesn't really matter - it still out tows, outbrakes, and out accelerates Chevy's so-called full size pickup.
on a comparable Toyota to that Chevy only tows 5,000, while the Silverado can tow 5400, why don't you read the post you dumb anti american.
Says:
Max Towing Limited Access Cab 4x4 (only one that comes standard with the V8, but is the highest rating)=max=7100
Max Towing Silverado LS Extra Cab 4x4= 9,400
How again can your tundra out tow the Silverado?
And as far as braking goes you are comparing a lighter truck so can't really make a fair comparison
It looks like you fell for the B.S. that trucksrus has been spouting about Toyota rigging the test. Toyota did not run the test - an independent test facility did and ALL of the trucks had a 1200 lb. load. See for yourself:
http://www.toyota.com/cgi-bin/top_frame.cgi?low_frame=tundra%2ftundra.tmpl&data_frame=%2ftundra%2facceleration.html
hmm seems you were wrong