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and not the
Xtronic CVT™ Convenience Plus Package
Intelligent Key keyless entry and ignition system (Requires Xtronic CVT™)
Bluetooth® Hands-Free Phone System
Leather-wrapped steering wheel
Integrated overhead CD holder
Divide-N-Hide™ trunk system
Cargo net and hooks
Remote trunk release
can you please clarify... thanks
We bought it at $16299 + $134 in dmv fees. Not bad in our opinion as it was tough to find a black one with the conv pkg AND wheels in our area at a decent price.
How much without sales tax?
Best to give prices without tax as it varies from state to state.
Same price range as you.
that is very good price....$15,400 OTD..... Is it Sentra 2.0 S CVT? I think .. With that package it is good deal, What are the numbers? (Sale price + Fees + Tax - $1500.0) etc
I Got quote for Sentra 2.0S CVT - No option for $15,750.00 OTD (FL - 7% tax + 450.50 fees + 121 Tag fee - Rebate 1500.0). Do you think it is good?
Yeah, it is the 2008 Sentra 2.0 S CVT. Seeing what others have paid, I think I got a great deal. I was skeptical at first that when I arrived to the dealership, something would be wrong with the car, but it was brand new, no problems, with 19 miles on it.
With the options I detailed in my original post, the car sale price was 16255 +985 tax +150 doc fees (unavoidable) + 10 plate transfer - 2000 rebates (1000 w/ 2.9% financing +500 recent college graduate + 500 Memorial Day rebate).
What I did was to send emails via edmunds, cars.com, and yahoo autos to all dealerships in my expanded region for price quotes. I did all the haggling via the internet and phone and found a couple dealerships that had the best price. I was in no rush to buy and took a few weeks to make sure I got the best deal, it paid off. Be sure to let dealers know that you negotiate from invoice, not from msrp. Check out carbuyingtips.com, great site that really helped me out in this, my first new car purchase. That is what I would recommend. Drive a little if it means saving 500 to 1000, that is certainly worth a little travel.
Honestly, knowing what I was able to do, I think they can do a little better for you, try to get that down to 15000 or 15200 if not lower. But check out other dealerships first. The lowest that the dealership in my town could do was 16100 before tax, title, fees, so needless to say, I walked from them since they were way off. Some dealerships just don't understand that we talk about prices and understand what we should be paying and know what their costs really are and those are the dealerships which probably need to charge more to cover the fact that they probably are not selling many automobiles when charging that much, at least in comparison to the dealerships that cater to internet quotes and what not.
Happy shopping, let me know if I can I help out any more.
alloy wheels (+304),
splash guards (+105), and
floor mats (+129),
that comes out to $17,202 at invoice. And if you add the $660 delivery, the invoice price is $17,862.
Did you negotiate $1,607 off of the invoice price, before even applying the rebates? Was there a trade involved in the deal? Otherwise, that sounds like a monster deal, considering you negotiated $1,607 off of the INVOICE price, and then got another $2,000 in rebates for a new car with only 19 miles.
The price of 16,150.00 does NOT include TTL and there is no trade in.
Edmunds lists MSRP as 18,870 and 'invoice' as 18,110;
Is $16,150.00 a good price for the 08 Sentra S CVT w/ convenience pkg?
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Bummer, huh?
Will you pls let me know the dealer name and location?
Is it CA?
Thanks,
DR
Yeah, I did all of my negotiating online before I even stepped foot in that dealership. I didn't have a trade in or anything. Even more, it was my first new car purchase! I was really excited about the price I got as well. Really, I would just recommend carbuyingtips.com and everyone's advice on this site to help buy a car. That's what I did. Before I purchased, I just let the salesman know that I was going to begin my negotiations at dealerships from invoice before rebates and work downwards, whoever giving me the best price would win. All in all, it paid off. Let me know if I can ever help out.
Invoice - 1500 Nissan Rebate = 17,128 + taxes and TTL ,
Final OTD price = 18,400.
Do you guys think its a good price or I can negotiate more and come down couple of hundered dollars. You think I can come down to 17,500 or is that too much to ask for?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Also how is the stero system. Is it worth spending 700 dollars for the upgraded stero system or the stock 160W 6 speakers is good enough?
Definitely go with the CVT!!!
The Sandman
did the 15,112 include the sale tax as well?
I got the exact color combination I wanted, and the car had only 10 miles on it!
$18,885.00 MSRP for Sentra 2.0S with convenience package, splash guards, floor mats (including delivery charge)
$17,558.00 Invoice price according to Edmunds and KBB as of 06/2008
$16,900.00 Negotiated Price including delivery
$55.00 Document fee
$16,955.00 Price before tax, license and applicable fees
$1,398.79 Sales tax (Santa Clara county 8.25%)
$174.00 DMV
$8.75 Tire
$18,536.54 Price before incentives
-$1,500.00 Factory cash incentive rebate
-$500.00 College grad program rebate
$16,536.54 Out the Door price
A few additional things to note. Reading this forum, the above price in this situation would often be quoted by posters as $14,900 before TT&L. I think that is a little deceptive because it takes into account the negotiated price after rebates but before taxes. However, I had to pay taxes before rebates were applied, which seems to be how it is in most states because I asked this question in post #187, it's actually more like 16,900 before TT&L and then a 2,000 rebate.
Second, I've noticed that there was an increase in prices in the Sentra (and most other models in the Nissan lineup) vehicles at each trim line but not in the option or packages occurring in April of 2008, and I asked this question in post #183 but have not yet gotten any responses. I think that because of this price change, Edmunds.com shows invoice price of "N/A" when pricing Sentras (at least when using their website in June of 2008) since they haven't confirmed invoice prices. KBB.com seems to have this information though.
Anyways, a lot of the great deals you read a few pages earlier in this forum seem to be from May and they were probably the Sentras on the lot before the April price increase. I found out that the car I bought was ordered and delivered in March of 2008. The price for the Sentra 2.0S CVT base vehicle was $16,860 MSRP/$15,730 invoice at that time (vs $17,070 MSRP/$15,926 invoice post April prices) and delivery charge was $625 (vs $660 post April prices). So technically, I should have listed $18,640 and $17,327 as the MSRP and invoice prices for the particular vehicle.
Furthermore, I have noticed the more recently made Sentras have a short stubby (more like a fin) type of antenna as opposed to the longer whip like antenna (about a foot long). I have not read anything else on this. Does anyone know any further information on this? Is this a way to determine which are the pre-April Sentras and those that are post-April Sentras? Nissan actually currently mixes pictures of both types on the website (probably mistakenly).
Sorry for the long post, but one more comment since I've talked about pricing here. I found out that Nissan has a dealer cash program in June of this year that is called a "Retro Program" that gives dealers cash back from Nissan for selling model year 2008 Sentras. Dealers receive a sales objective for June and they earn $200 if they meet unit volume goals for both the middle of the month and the end of the month. Additionally, they can earn $300 per vehicle if they meet 100-114.9% of the month's unit sales goal or $400 per vehicle if they meet 115% or more of the month's unit sales goal, retroactive to the first Sentra they sold for the month. So that means they can earn up to an additional $600 per vehicle if they hit all the objectives for June. I have not found this information published anywhere else.
Real quickly my impressions of the other cars I drove that day. The Mazda 3 Touring VE was a very nice car and the one in my mind I liked most when I started out. I liked the looks and features at the price point, particulalry the 17" alloy wheels (everyone else was 16" steel wheels) and the projector style head lights (all cars should come with these now, especially if you're paying more than 15k for a car, I mean, how much better would the Corolla, Civic and Sentra look - a lot!). Handling was very nice, quite BMW like for the price and considering its FWD. Only car to offer a "manu-matic" transmission, though with only 4 gears, the transmission is not really that impressive. Also, all four wheels had disc brakes which is really nice, and I think all the other competitors had drums in the rear.
Next was the 2009 Corolla, which we really didn't get to test drive as thoroughly as the other cars (only once around the block, no highway time) because of the dealership's asinine policy so I won't comment on ride and handling. On paper, the Corolla is very lackluster, especially given that this is a completely new redsign, this new generation Corolla has come into the competition limping. I mean they carry over the same 1.8 liter engine and 4 speed automatic from the last generation, seriously? And this after the current generation Honda Civic has a 5 speed automatic and a slightly more powerful engine of the same displacement that was introduced almost 3 years ago. I will say this about the experience, Toyota is truly relying on their hard earned reputation to sell their cars, which I guess they can, but their sales and service are horrible, and if continued, will seriously undermine the value of their reputation. I have felt this way for a couple of years now. If they don't improve this aspect of the dealership experience - being the interface between Toyota and the customers - they will eventually lose customers and hurt their reputation in a similar way as the Detroit automakers did in the later part of the last century when they failed to pay attention to quality, details, and innovation. With current production technology and management, Toyota no longer has nearly as large an advantage, if any, on quality and reliability over their competitors, both foreign and domestic. And certainly the value of their cars don't justify the arrogance I have seen from many of the sales people who represent their brand.
Next was the Mitsubishi Lancer, and I really liked the aggressive looks of this car. Now, this is one good looking redesign. I'm sure they could increase sales volumes by 20% if all they did was use projector style headlights. The only thing I felt lacking in this car was the transmission and the fuel economy. Both the Lancer and the Sentra have 2.0 liter engines with CVT. Nissan does it very well. Mitsubishi does not. The Lancer CVT was a bad performing CVT. Nissan got their CVT right. Main take away, not all CVT's are made equally.
And finally, we went to the Honda dealership to test drive a Civic, only to find out that there were no Civics to test drive because they were all sold out and the sales people were losing business because they didn't have the cars to sell to their customers. Apparently, a lot of people in June were trading in their SUV's and other vehicles and particularly liked the Civic. Visit the Civic prices paid forum and you will see some first hand experience about this. It was ok, because I actually test drove a Civic back in February when I was looking to buy a Pilot. At the time, I thought it was nice, handling, engine and transmission felt good, but wasn't particularly impressed with anything. The look of the current model was just ok, but clearly would be helped by using projector style headlights (the ones with the frog-eye lens as Paul Wall has described them). But for being considered the best-in-class car and priced that way, I found the lack of alloy wheels and drum rear brakes and folding rear seats with no split in the LX package to be pathetic. Interior and passenger space was average and what you would expect for the compact car size. But nothing about this car really stood out, and being that there were no cash incentives of any type and current market conditions severely reduced consumer leverage on pricing negotiations, it was an easy decision to not consider the Civic any further. Otherwise, I would be mainly buying it for the Honda Civic reputation for quality, reliability and resale value, which I don't doubt, but I didn't value as worth the $2,000 to $3,000 more than a Nissan Sentra 2.0S.
Same here man
whats ur OTD
keep trying that rebate for 1500 is cool until july 31
Also my friend mistakenly did not completely shut off the gas tank round cap, 2 days later the "service engine soon" light came on. I read the manual and it that's how i figured out the problem. It has been day since I tighten the round cap as it should be, the warning light is still on. Any one familiar with this, how long will it take for the light to turn off after I have closed the cap properly. My car has only 350 miles so i don't think there is any other mechical problem.
Improvements and other features are updated. Certainly prices are going up. Any dealer have any advance info yet on this? Again, this pertains to the U.S. market.
Sentra in Canada makes it standard on the 2 upper trim levels, but not on the base
model, and has been since introduction.