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That X3 has been listed over 2 months and still there. I did not to to test drive it. The dealer is 200 miles away from my home. Right now the dealer decrease the list price from $39954 to $38956. I am sure I can get it on $38000 OTD. However, this X3 has black exterior and black interior. I saw a similar color in another closed dealer and I hate everything black inside. So I would not consider this one.
I am still hoping for some s/w improvements and for some engineer at BMW to finally figure out what is going on with the suspension....I know I will be waiting until he** freezes over but such is life with the X3.
It really is too bad. The X3 has many nice features including great handling, great brakes, well thought out interior, utility + luxury, tight turning radius, great pano roof and plenty of power even for its 2 tons. When it is behaving itself it is great fun to drive.
I'm just wondering... with all the recalls with toyota, have you ever tried to contact the manufacturer? I betcha that they would start taking consumer's complaints seriously these days. From what I read on the net, it seems that you're not the only one having issues with bmw.
my only question is whether we should purchase the Service Contract...the car has 50k service, and 100k b2b...but you have to fully maintain the car in order to keep the 100k warranty active. first- is that true?
2nd- the service contract costs $1850 or so. truly it's only good until 100k or 6yrs....so 02/2013. i believe the scheduled maintenance is 30k, 60k....and maybe one more. plus oil changes, and i know the brakes and rotors usually get replaced together at the 60k....that can cost $700+. (not really sure) and oil changes are probably about $100/each.
anyone think this service contract is worth it? the payments spread over the 5yr payment period at 3.9%...but the useful life of that contract is only 3 yrs.
thoughts?
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
If that is the case, then you'll have 97K on your car by the end of the warranty, and also the extended maintenance plan, if you decide to buy it. That gets you maximum use out of the maintenance plan. That said, there may be some wiggle room in the price... you may be able to negotiate a couple of hundred lower.
If you don't do the scheduled maintenance, then a warranty claim could be denied, if they tie the problem to the lack of maintenance (not hard to do). As roadburner noted, you can get the maintenance done more cheaply at a good independent BMW repair shop. However, that might be inconvenient, as you'll be going to the dealer for warranty work, anyway.
The advantage of buying the maintenance plan, is you don't have to worry if any vehicle problems are maintenance or warranty related, as you'll be covered for either. I would guess that if you are going to come close to the 100K mileage limit by the end of the plan, it will probably pay off (especially if you can negotiate a discount from that price. You might have a little less leverage, since you've already purchased your car.
One final note: You described your warranty as B2B... That may be true for the original warranty that expires at 50K miles, but the CPO warranty that kicks in at 50K, while good, is far from comprehensive, in comparison to the base warranty.
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you've provided good reasoning. i've also looked for the independent bmw mechanics around me, and i think i should probably just pay for it all now and then use the dealers for all maintenance. it would be a different story if i knew the independent mechanic, but otherwise i may feel like i'm being ripped off, and then i'll probably have to haggle with the dealers over warranty issues if anything arises.
i may as well just keep it easy on myself. and you're right, we'll def hit 20k a year with the car, and that will get us right to 100k, making everything covered and worry free.
what i don't like is the business manager saying that it's spread out over 60 months...when in fact its useful life is only 3 years. she also said it would be an asset, and if we traded the car back in at some point, there would be some equity in that service...but we're not likely to trade it in within 3 years, and it will pretty much expire worthless after 3 years, yet still be a part of our payoff possibly leaving us upside down when the time comes.
If the loan terms are good, then finance the cost.. if they aren't so good, then pay cash for the plan upfront, if it helps you sleep at night..
It may cause you to be upside down, if you sell at the 100K mark, but in the big picture, you will probably be better off (no maintenance costs for the next three years).
Good luck with it... It's very seldom that someone's driving needs and the current mileage match up so well with the warranty and maintenance expiration... You really will see full value for those extra costs.
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we did get a good financing deal, so that combined with a good price and an excellent trade-in price.....we should be very happy.
really isn't that unusual. Essentially "thanks for buying. Take care.". So I would
suggest before you spend your money on a product that the manufacturer won't
even stand behind, to please think twice. And CPO....means nothing, don't waste your time.
What pieces of junk.
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Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
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Purchased at a new BMW dealership in Minnetonka, Minnesota.
Monaco Blue w/ sand leather interior
30K miles
Auto trans
Premium package
Cold Weather package
Privacy glass
Heated steering wheel
xenons
park distance control
Storage package
Salesperson is saying it is coming off lease and should sell for 28K
Two questions:
1) Is this a good price?
2) How close to the residual would you say the asking price is?
Thanks, in advance, for any help.
It is due back at the end of July and I think the residual is something like $26K & change. Remember, dealers don't pay the same for thx lease returned BMWs that retail customers do.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
My 2007 BMW X3 (~36k miles, premium, winter, xenon, heated wheel) has a $29500 residual at the lease end.
For how much do you think I could buy this car and with whom (and how..what to say,etc) I should negotiate (dealer or BMFS) ?
thank you all for your help.
The X3 is a fantastic vehicle & you're going to be really happy with it. We have to turn our '07 X3 back in to BMW at the end of the month.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
32900 is a lot of $ for 08. with that kind of $ you can get newer GLK350, RDX,Murrano, EX35, SRX (not to offend BMW fans here)
On second thought , why not hook up with this guy for a better deal on a CPO 07 X3s?
Check the CPO's listed on the BMW site and then do some cruising of cars.com. I agree that you can negotiate a better deal.
Also, I believe that the dealers still have $5K available to give on new X3s (this is the build out money. When I was considering a new one I was able to talk the sales person into at least a $6500 reduction off of list.
I have had mine about a year now and it runs exactly the same as before. In other words it bounces all over the place, is quite uncomfortable and has the same bizarre transmission. It has low miles so nothing has broken yet.
I hope the multiple repairs have done the job and held the car together for you.
Ignore the cheerleaders. Some people simply cannot understand a situation unless they have actually experienced it. Too little imagination and absolutely zero empathy.
premium leather, garage opener, bluetooth, 18' premium wheel.
Can somebody tell me if this is a good deal? If not, any suggestion on negotiating further...... The car seems to be in good condition. We read the service history and this car only came back to the dealership twice during the 7k miles. Both for oil changes.
TIA for all the advises. We decided to go with the BMW because of the rude salespeople that we encountered at (believe it or not) most of the Lexus dealership in the area. We find each one of them to be the worst of the worst sales team in the luxury brands. And we have dealt with most of the luxury brands (Audi, Land Rover, Acura, Benz, BMW). This BMW dealership that we dealt with had been okay thus far and eventhough they haggled us for the extra $100, they're still 100 times better than their neighboring Lexus.
Very surprised as other dealers would not even consider anything more than a 1k discount.
The classic was this dump of a store in eastern Connecticut- the wallpaper was literally peeling off of the walls in the showroom- sales manager was offering me an 800 discount off of msrp! I almost signed as long as he would promise to remodel the place!
Here is the vehicle:
'11 X3 35
Cold Weather
Premium
Sports Activity
MSRP: 48,325 Sale Price: 45619 or,
with Tech: MSRP 51200 Sale 48,357
I'm going select (or through credit union) BMW quoted select with 5K down, 576 on first deal, 615 on second.
THoughts??
Tech Package, Premium Package, Convenience Package, Satin Roof rails
Cost including destination was $46950. USAA price was 47,340.
Truecar says I paid about $550 over invoice.
Dealer doc fees of $549, Sales tax and tag transfer were extra on top. Cash purchase.
Good deal?
Thanks,
Just to clarify for others, my USAA price certificate says "Your price does not include dealer documentation (processing), tax, DMV,registration,title,licenses and other government fees, or dealer installed accessories" so the $549 Dealer Doc fee is over and above USAA price.
So price I got was $46,950 + $549 + Tax + Tags whereas USAA price would be $47,340 + $549 + Tax + Tags. Both include MACO.
I bought a 2011 BMW X3 28i w/
-premium pkg
-convenience pkg
-cold weather pkg
-tech pkg
-sport activity pkg
the order is placed with a deposit.
MSRP: $49375
Invoice (Truecar):$45575
Price I got: $46000 (got a good price for the trade-in)
Extras: Sales Tax (MA, 6.25%), doc fee $350, Reg $100
What do you guys think?
Is this a good deal?
Thanks.
Does this mean the price paid 46k includes your trade-in?
What dealership did you work with? I'm trying to buy a similar car from Herb Chambers but they won't quote me a price, gettting such a run around.
Do you think it is a good price?
Do you have a trade-in
I went to Herb Chambers to test-drive, they treated me like s**t and now they are non-stop calling me and sending me emails & mails.
I got it from BMW Gallery Norwood, I did most part of the negotiation thru email & phone, it was easy when I went in, took just over an hour.
Good luck!
I"m no pricing expert, but from other blogs, I'm trying to negotiate 250-300 over invoice. Which is about where $46k puts you.
I totally understand the trade-in being a stress, the dealer might want to see your trade-in to give you a quote, but try to negotiate the price over the phone/email.
I dono if we can PM here, may be we can chat sometime
Herb Chambers finally gave me a price $750 below msrp. I'm sure I can do better. And it makes me think you got a great deal!
18k
- 60 K service completed.
- New Tires
- SMOG check done .
- Registration paid for until June 2012.
pics here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93894566N00/sets/72157627123943462/