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Why don't you go listen to one and decide for yourself? Car audio is way too subjective.
Rocky
Rocky
Just remember a bumper to bumper extended warranty like that will cost the dealer at least $1000 and TANSTAAFL (There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch).
Has anyone see the MKZ in Vivid Red?
The best place to buy them is www.fordwarrantys.com
Just ask the dealer if they'll accept X plan on a MKZ. If they say yes then go get the PIN from the employee. The price is preset so you don't have to worry about that.
The fact that it's a no haggle price and they can't add any extra fees makes it a no brainer.
I'm surprised by akirby saying the dealer may not accept it. I thought they HAD to accept it, like it or not. I could be wrong.
Dealers are not required to participate, but if they do, they must be an authorized Ford Motor Company dealer for the product sold and agree to abide by the guidelines set forth in the New Vehicle Purchase Plan. Ask for a copy of the vehicle invoice which shows the "X" plan price in the box labeled "X Plan" located in the lower right hand corner (lower left for Volvo- not displayed for Jaguar or Land Rover). This is always the correct "X" plan price. The dealer is required to provide you with a true copy of the factory invoice showing the X Plan price.
i would think you can order a vehicle a x-plan price, too.
another thing is, no fees can be added with x-plan, such as document fees. ask for the otd price.
So, some people can do better than that if they can negotiate invoice on their own and not even bring the X plan into the conversation.
So, if the dealer gets $300 over invoice plus an additional spiff check from Ford, I don't know why they wouldn't want to take it unless it was some limited production vehicle where the demand is higher than the yearly production capability of the plant.
It's not as if if they sell you a MKZ for X plan price that they can't still sell another MKZ for more money to the next guy who walks and is willing to pay full MSRP.
They are not "losing" anything. It is an additional sale and more profits to them.
Dealer participation in X/A/Z plan sales is totally voluntary. When the mustang came out in 05 dealers wouldn't take X plan on one at all. Most would still not take X plan on a GT until a few months ago.
If the dealer says he can give it to you at invoice, he's keeping the rebate ($500 or $1000 - don't want to look it up right now). In addition he will charge a "doc" fee, usually $400 or so. It's NOT a better deal. Stick with X plan and order if you have to. Much safer.
I bet most shoppers really want something else but are shopping the MKZ for cost savings vs an ES350 or whatever other car they would really prefer.
Few cars have huge inventories at the very beginning of a model year. On top of this, Ford said they would make a bigger effort to keep production from greatly outpacing any lagging demand.
This is not usual at all.
I see very few 2006 Zephyrs on the road.
I would only buy an MKZ for a bargain price and if I couldn't get it, I would move on to something else.
Remind me again in the next few days.
Thanx
Rocky
If demand was so low (relative to production) these cars would be sitting on the lots for 2 or 3 months.
Stick to facts. Just because you wouldn't buy it doesn't mean nobody else would.
The average Zephyr sits on a dealer's lot for just 19 days, compared with 27 days for a Lexus ES 330 and 47 days for a Cadillac CTS.
Detroit News June 2006
The abnormally short time is more due to lack of production capacity, as well as Ford wanting to limit swelling inventories. The Fusion, Milan and MKZ are all built on the same line, and there are only so many that can be built without involving a whole new factory. I'm sure that Lincoln would rather be selling 50,000 MKZ's than 25,000, but that is about all that can be supplied to dealers now.
This is a much better story than selling 50K/yr with $5K rebates.
I think they're just being overly cautious since they've been burned on oversupply way too often in the past.
Why not?
Umm....there's only 24 hours in a day?
They're already running 24x7.
They could build many more, but it doesn't make any sense to based on the demand, so they throttled the production down to more appropriately meet the demand.
Anyone have thoughts on pros/cons of loaded MKZ v. loaded Camry (including NAV)? Any chance I could get the MKZ for about the same price? Would love to keep to 30K or less.
Also, does anyone know when the MKZs with Ford "Triptunes" iPod connection will be available? I read that they were coming in "early 2007" (the current models have an auxiliary input, but not total integration with the sound system).
Would appreciate any wisdom--
MKZ could sell more units, if they were out there, but even so, I doubt it could sell enough without incentives to make it an actual "hot" seller. These sales, yes, are good for Lincoln and profitable. Every little bit helps, but let's not pretend that sales of 30,000 units of Lincoln's least expensive vehicle are going to turn Lincoln around.
Just think how much further ahead Lincoln would be now if they had simply updated the present Town Car to Continental concept styling in 2005. You and I both know they could have done this without breaking the bank. Like Mustang, which still has a live rear axle, the renewed Town Car would have sold very well. Much higher numbers than MKZ and at higher prices.
I'm glad Lincoln can easily move all it gets allotted. However, it is a modified Fusion. Period. It is NOT even like comparing a Volvo S80 and a Mercury Montego. Although based on the same architecture, the latter two are really different. The Milan and the MKZ could, however, be mistaken for different years of the same car.
So take the $$ that MKZ will make for Lincoln and use it to help get the make off life support. Then start building real Lincolns. I would like to buy one.
MSRP Invoice
Total with Options $38,845 $35,482
http://autodeadline.com/Photos?source=Lincoln&model=Zephyr&page=1
Wish me luck! :P ">
As for the interior I am also going for the black on black with satin nickel.
Here is an example of 19 or 20 inch but they are too large. Note the front lip kit, side shirt and the custom grill. I understand the grill is only about 200 bucks.
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As for the interior I am also going for the black on black with satin nickel.
Anyway it is interesting what folks are doing in the aftermarket. I am going to meet with the rep at the dealer to see what type of options are out there for the MKZ. I will keep you posted.
This has a nice look to it also. What colors are this?
Rocky